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JØRN LANDE On DIO's Passing: Some 'People Wanted To Benefit From What Had Happened' - Mar. 15, 2013
Anthony Morgan of Metal Forces recently conducted an interview with Norwegian powerhouse vocalist Jørn Lande. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow below.

On latest JORN album, "Symphonic":

Jørn: "'I Came To Rock' [from 2012's 'Bring Heavy Rock To The Land'] was something I thought would be cool to add some strings to, and so we tried. Some songs really invite you to make an orchestral arrangement. I just felt that songs like 'I Came To Rock' were perfect for that. Even without any keyboards or anything on the original version, it still feels like it could be something more bombastic, and that's how I got the idea. With other tracks like 'Behind The Clown' [from 2004's 'Out To Every Nation'] for example — which is an older JORN track — it's an era which was kind of a more experimental time, an era when I experimented more with various musical landscapes. That song was also a candidate. It wasn't a typical song for a JORN album, because it was more like a ballad. I used to enjoy the wonderful Kate Bush a lot when I grew up, which is a big contrast to the heavy rock and metal I do today or perform today.

"Yeah, the rest is history, basically. It turned out great, and a friend of mine who's very clever with arranging these things helped me out. I talked to my label and they liked the idea, too, to select a few other songs. We didn't want to do a 'best-of' release, because some of the songs don't fit that well with an orchestra anyway. You could say that I wanted to bring some diversity to the album, and also to bring some of these songs to the surface. We tried to choose some of the more rare tracks, tracks that might be forgotten or are on later albums. Usually people remember the video songs, singles and stuff. So yeah, they deserve a second chance. That's basically how it started."

On the birth of heavy metal:

Jørn: "In the early '70s, there weren't really any metal bands. Maybe there was something called heavy metal that was similar to heavy metal. Some people say that heavy metal started with bands like LED ZEPPELIN, BLACK SABBATH, but I think that heavy metal started in the late '70s to early '80s with bands like JUDAS PRIEST and IRON MAIDEN. I think before that was hard rock, and experimental rock. Distorted guitars weren't really distorted either, so that way of playing and being able to get the heavy metal sound right was one that evolved in the late '70s. Just listen to what Eddie Van Halen [VAN HALEN] did with the guitar when he first started playing — his playing was something totally new. At one time the guitarist in BOSTON [Tom Scholz] invented something called the Rockman, which was a small, little box that made a certain sound. It was distorted; it wasn't too thick and big, but it had this kind of crunchy, great feel and sound. I think that's when guitarists were able to play faster, and could really do more on a technical level.

"I think before, in the early '70s, when I was a kid, nobody heard about something called heavy metal. Not even heavy rock, or hard rock. It was just rock music. DEEP PURPLE was rock music, URIAH HEEP was rock music. NAZARETH, SLADE, SWEET; it was all rock music. It wasn't separated, at least where I come from. I don't know about the U.K., but people didn't really separate the styles in the same way. It wasn't like today with thousands of genres and subgenres, like soft metal, nu-metal, black metal, nu-black metal, thrash metal, speed metal. I don't even know all of the names, but some of them I've learnt along the way. [laughs] I don't even know all of the styles that are supposed to have been invented in the last ten, 20 years. I prefer to say that even BLACK SABBATH was heavy rock music, but I don't think the word 'heavy' was really a term that was used back then. Maybe some did, but it definitely wasn't a common way of addressing BLACK SABBATH."

On the timing of the release of "Dio" in 2010, a tribute album to the late Ronnie James Dio [BLACK SABBATH, DIO, RAINBOW]:

Jørn: "It definitely wasn't the best time to release the album, but some of the tracks on that album were from 2007 and the rest were from 2009. It wasn't the best thing that happened, that the album came out so soon after Ronnie's passing. Then again, a lot of tributes were made afterwards. I think it was obvious that many of these tributes were really done because people wanted to benefit from what had happened. I think when we evaluated the situation, since the release had already been scheduled for a long time… I spoke to my record company, and we agreed that it was better to release the album as planned rather than wait four months, and then release it. It isn't possible to make an album like that… If you know the album, you know how it sounds and everything. It isn't possible to have a production like that in a month, or a few weeks."

On the departure of guitarist Tore Moren and bassist Nic Angileri, and the arrival of new JORN members Trond Holter [guitars] and Bernt Jansen [bass]:

Jørn: "Tore always wanted to do something on his own, and there were also some discussions and conflict in the band. We had been playing together for many, many years. I guess we just had a different view on things, on how to continue. He basically left himself, which I guess was the result of our disagreements. Nobody got fired or anything from the band; it was his own wish to leave, based on our discussions. In the last couple of years we've been talking about the direction of the band and how to work and how to do things, even if it was in a live touring context, or if it was how to make an album, how to write, and what to do with certain things within this band. I guess that's why.

"When we had a new guitarist, we had a bass player living nearby where I live, a really talented one. They were good friends, and he showed up at rehearsals together with the new guitar player. In the end, we just had to find out what to do. It really worked well. I think Nic played great on the album that he did last year with us; he played great on the tours and all the shows that he did, and he's a great guy. It's just we felt that it would work much better in the big picture to also include a new bass player, so we sat down to talk to Nic. Yeah, of course, it's one of those things that sometimes you don't like to do, talking to people about certain things and then telling people that it's not gonna work anymore. I don't like to beat around the bush; I like to be frank with these things."

On his forthcoming studio album:

Jørn: "It's less experimental than some of the earlier albums. I think the last couple of albums or three have been a development towards a more classic-rock-oriented sound, moving back to where we came from. Like I mentioned earlier, the experimentation is something which belongs in the past right now. I don't feel that the most important thing is to try to reinvent the wheel or something, and try to discover new musical aspects of myself. I think what I need to do now is to really find the best recipe for the band. Where are we at our best? When do I perform at my best? In what type of style? Is it the simple rock music that we grew up with? I think we discovered that by not trying to go out of where we came from, and not trying to do something new… Which isn't really possible, but I think that many bands desperately try to be original and to claim that they discovered something new."

Read the entire interview at www.metalforcesmagazine.com.



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COMMENT | Sabbath
posted by : San Diego Kid
3/15/2013 10:37:22 AM
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Sorry but Black Sabbaths debut album IS the first Heavy Metal album. He is right that Purple, Heep, Cream etc. wrote some heavy songs that influenced metal but the album 'Black Sabbath' is the first Heavy Metal album.



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COMMENT | 'RE: Sabbath'
posted by : HORRORHOLIC
3/15/2013 11:53:16 AM
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Absolutely!!!


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COMMENT | Agreed
posted by : fulcizombie
3/15/2013 10:40:24 AM
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Songs like "Black sabbath", N.I.B and the wizard were definately heavy metal and the whole "Paranoid" album was heavy metal and "Master of reality" could pass as an eighties doom album with ease . The other bands were hard rock , Black Sabbath esp. with their first 3-4 albums were definately heavy metal .


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COMMENT | ...
posted by : So Sick
3/15/2013 10:41:29 AM
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Blabbermouth trying hard to instigate shit... Almost creative, really.


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posted by : MetalPriestFan
3/15/2013 10:45:00 AM
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There are always tribute albums when musicians die. Jorn didn't do anything wrong.


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posted by : Adveser
3/15/2013 11:11:19 AM
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Jorn is absolutely right. Re-writing history by claiming Sabbath invented metal is bullshit. It's PR that Warner would have you believe to shift more units. Marketing and brainwashing at it's finest. If you are going to call the first Sabbath metal, then you have have to include Deep Purple, Lucifer's Friend, Blue Cheer, Steppenwolf, ect. into it and there are clearly other bands with a similar sound that were around. No matter how you try to quantify what made them heavy metal, there are other earlier examples that fit too.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : HORRORHOLIC
3/15/2013 11:52:44 AM
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Alot of people use the arguement that Deep Purple, Blue Cheer etc... were the ones that started metal or whatever. They may have influenced it, but if you play their albums and can't tell the difference between them and Sabbath and can't understand why most people consider Sabbath the 1st metal band than their is something wrong!!!


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COMMENT | Black Sabbath
posted by : Sabbathman
3/15/2013 11:29:21 AM
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Black Sabbath
The movie
The band
The album
The song
The rain
The bells
The heavy riffs
The gloomy darkness
Released on Friday the 13th of February 1970
Hailing from Birmingham's industrial smoke, dirt and grime
Tony Iommi's fingertips cut off and remade, attaining thicker sound
Ozzy Osbourne had no shoes while many wore flowers in their hair
Geezer Butler's sinister encounter with the dark side
Bill Ward's flaming beard

It's all so concise and fitting. No-one else has a combination like this. This band, album and song form the real beginning of heavy metal, a new age in music had begun. Black Sabbath had many influences from blues to jazz to psychedelic rock to big band music, on their debut album they poured everything into their mix of darker-than-night, bluesy, jazzy, rocking, heavier-than-hell metal.

I KNOW that heavy-sounding and dark, moody rock songs had been made before, many of those examples fit too, but nothing even close like this. I know I haven't heard anything heavier and darker that precedes Black Sabbath. My dad and his friend have also told me that even though bands/artists like Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Cream, The Who, Frank Zappa, Arthur Brown, and Jimi Hendrix had made dark/heavy songs, they felt that Black Sabbath was something totally new and devastating compared to anything they had heard until then.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Black Sabbath'
posted by : Iommi77
3/16/2013 12:15:15 AM
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Exactly, they did albums worth of heavy duty, dark music, not just one or two fuzz tone distorted heavy rockers. I have delved pretty deeply into the more obscure heavier rock around that time, and no one came close to matching Sabbath's intensity and heaviness.

Someone said it's Warner Bros trying to rewrite history to sell more Sabbath albums. While it's true the term and techniques of Heavy Metal didn't really catch on and become refined and focused until later, the point Jorn is clumsily trying to make, anyone with ears, whether around at the time or delving back as I had to, can hear how different Sabbath were to everyone else and why they set a new standard and inspired a new genre.

I know death/black metal muso's that basically don't give a shit about heavy before Venom, Maiden, Mercyful Fate etc, but they make an exception and enjoy Black Sabbath. That says something about how their music stood out.

Jorn's point about Van Halen may be true regarding metal guitarists playing faster and with more complexity, but Sabbath were still a whole lot heavier musically 8 years before the VH debut.


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posted by : BLABBERMONK
3/15/2013 12:09:23 PM
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the only METAL is MAIDEN!!!


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : ozzy.1
3/15/2013 1:32:26 PM
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Maiden a metal band?
The only good Maiden album is ,,,The number of the beast,
the other ones are pure Shit!


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : Iommi77
3/16/2013 12:17:30 AM
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Thanks for that insight dumb and dumber


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COMMENT | Enough
posted by : madtoyz
3/15/2013 12:20:28 PM
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Can we stop the 'O' with the line through it thing?


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COMMENT | 'RE: Enough'
posted by : Iommi77
3/16/2013 12:19:45 AM
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What a shock, you're American.



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posted by : RiotAct666
3/15/2013 12:23:01 PM
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Black Sabbath started heavy metal. Bands like Deep Puprle , LZ , are hard rock!


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COMMENT | @ madtoyz
posted by : Rasselkopf
3/15/2013 12:25:22 PM
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Why?


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COMMENT | He's right and wrong.
posted by : Fred is Dead
3/15/2013 12:46:18 PM
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In a sense, he is right because Sabbath rejected the heavy metal label at the time. And Priest and Maiden largely developed a style of playing that can only be called" heavy metal" guitar by largely stripping the blues out if it while keeping it aggressive and dark.

But, it's very doubtful either band would've gotten very far without the door being kicked in by Black Sabbath in the first place. Black Sabbath is the king of metal.


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posted by : Sickboy666
3/15/2013 12:57:02 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coven_(band)


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posted by : Sickboy666
3/15/2013 12:57:06 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coven_(band)


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posted by : Adveser
3/15/2013 1:31:29 PM
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Yeah, I forgot to mention Coven. While their sound is a bit lighter than Sabbath, it's awfully coincidental that they put out a song called "Black Sabbath" and their Bass player was named "Oz Osbourne"

I mean for fuck's sake, the press at the time called Black Sabbath a knockoff of them. But Coven don't put out records on a major label, so no one is interested in even bothering with mentioning their names as pioneers of the lyrical themes.

I wanna know what kind of garbage people are smoking where Black Sabbath sounds unique to other hard rock bands of the 70's. Like they are the first band to use fuzz or distortion pedals or play in Eb.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Iommi77
3/16/2013 12:34:36 AM
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By all means, listen to Coven if you prefer their much lighter psychedic rock and 20 minute satanic rites narration over actual heavy music made by Black Sabbath.

No one said Sabbath were the first to do those things, but they were the first to combine many elements across entire albums that were later adopted by thousands of metal bands.

If you don't agree, tell us which bands were heavier and darker before or around that time? It's one thing to refute general consensus because you genuinely believe it's incorrect, it's another to do it because you're not keen on said band and want to feel superior. Citing Coven says it all.


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posted by : Torturetonal
3/15/2013 1:44:04 PM
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I would never have heard of Jørn Lande if it wasn't for Dio's passing. Just saying.


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posted by : Torturetonal
3/15/2013 1:47:26 PM
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I've not heard a band that was as dark/heavy as Sabbath in 1970, even if they did steal some cues from Coven.

King Crimson came close at times though...


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COMMENT | my take
posted by : Firewind
3/15/2013 2:05:38 PM
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Black Sabbath= Definitely full on metal, not a lot of dynamics, especially first two albums, too much distortion and full on raging to be anything but metal (for the time at least, hell for all time, guitar tone isnt THAT different now since Iommi used that treble booster to boost those laneys).

Deep Purple= In Rock is definitely metal, cmon, its "full on" all the way through (other than Child In Time). Arguably paved the way for power and other traditional metal, just as Sabbath paved the way for the darker and more extreme metals.

Led Zeppelin= Plagiarist folk rock with some "heavy metal" moments. Totally overrated, with a hack lead but decent rhythm guitarist in Jimmy "who is jake holmes or willie dixon?" Plage (for plagiarist)- also a good producer, but Zep is a guility pleasure for me because i dont love Plant or the plagiarism of the group (See Jake Holmes, Willie Dixon, and others)..Not metal a lot of the time, but had a huge influence on HAIR METAL (ok and on a lot of other stuff, but if were going by my weird "theory", sab= extreme metal and doom, Purple= Power and traditional, Zep= Hair :P


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posted by : Leonard Rockstein
3/15/2013 2:06:02 PM
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Indeed, Coven is pretty cool. The Satanic Mass was a cool addition to their debut. Kiss the fucking goat!!!


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COMMENT | Not what I or Jorn is saying
posted by : San Diego Kid
3/15/2013 2:29:58 PM
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I'm not saying Black Sabbath invented metal I am saying that 'Black Sabbath' is the first heavy metal album. 'In Rock' is not a heavy metal album though it is heavy Deep Purple were always a jam band/arena rock (not too mention 'In Rock' was released AFTER 'Black Sabbath') certainly there were a myriad of bands that invented heavy metal but the first full on heavy metal album is 'Black Sabbath'. The only earlier album I would tned to agree might be called the first heavy metal album is 'Disreali Gears' and that is a fucking stretch folks.


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COMMENT | What about the
posted by : Hemiskull
3/15/2013 4:52:24 PM
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Yardbirds or Canned Heat pretty heavy stuff for the mid to late sixies. Steppenwolf first to use the term "heavy metal"

Fuck I hope 13 is lucky for the mighty Sabbath.


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COMMENT | Led Zeppelin
posted by : RedZombie
3/15/2013 6:04:12 PM
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the true creators of metal. LZ I & II came out in 1969 a year before Sabbath's first 2. Featuring such tracks as 'Good Times Bad Times', 'Communication Breakdown', 'Dazed and Confused', 'How Many More Times', 'Whole Lotta Love', 'Heartbreaker' & 'The Lemon Song'. All of which I would say could qualify as 'metal'. But overall they never really did a completely metal album, if that's what you mean.
Screw the people benefitting from Dio's untimely death.


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COMMENT | You're all wrong.
posted by : Zosimus
3/15/2013 6:40:03 PM
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Black Sabbath initially rejected the term 'heavy metal' and considered themselves 'heavy rock'. It's not like the first Black Sabbath album was released and it was announced that there was this brand new style of music called Heavy Metal.

Black Sabbath have been credited in retrospect. In the same way that they are also considered to have been the first Doom Metal band. That perception came to be many years after they released those early albums.

Probably the first real heavy metal band, who didn't reject the label of being such, was Judas Priest.

Judas Priest could possibly be the most important heavy metal band of all.

Having said all that, the first Black Sabbath album is currently considered to be the first heavy metal album and there's no point crapping on about it further.

And never underestimate the Priest.


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COMMENT | 'RE: You''re all wrong.'
posted by : Iommi77
3/16/2013 12:48:54 AM
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Bands don't start genre's knowingly, they just do what they feel and in retrospect others label it and bands follow their influence, as Priest did with Sabbath. Another example being thrash. Metallica took their influences and did their thing, then many were following and the genre became thrash.

You say many years, I say a few. Sabbath were called heavy metal by the early/mid 70's. No one is suggesting they coined the term or even set out to create a new genre. Don't be naive.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: You''''re all wrong.'''
posted by : Iommi77
3/16/2013 12:54:24 AM
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Doom was coined much later, I apologise, that was your point.



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posted by : Sontaron
3/16/2013 5:43:48 AM
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I hate this sort of revisionism. Heavy metal, as a phrase/genre, call it what you will, existed in the 70s and was used to describe all these bands...Sabbath, Purple, Led Zep, Priest, Rush, Whitesnake, the media referred to all of them as heavy metal. They may not sound as heavy as bands do nowadays but they were still the original heavy metal bands.


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COMMENT | JØRN LANDE On DIO's Passing: Some 'People Like Me,Wanted To Benefit From ...
posted by : JackBLack
3/16/2013 10:44:14 AM
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Yes Jorn, you are right, and of course you are one them (The most...)


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COMMENT | Some people wanted to benefit, huh?
posted by : asd27
3/16/2013 3:24:30 PM
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So I guess you're not including yourself in that group of people?


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COMMENT | JORN are Best Newer Band since 2000
posted by : cutter
3/17/2013 3:48:57 PM
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people can continue to Whine about why JORN released the DIO album. But the simple fact is JORN have put out the best Hard Rock / Metal albums in a classic Rock Style more than any other current Modern or Classic Hard Rock Bands. Love him or Hate him, he is Respected by Mr. Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath and meany other Legends of Rock.


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