Nah, that would be Marty.

Chris is good, though.

Mustaine always says this about his currently hired gun.

Huh, you spelled Chris Poland wrong. Whoops.

CHRIS POLARLAND?

Nah, that would be Marty.

Chris is good, though.

Mustaine always says this about his currently hired gun.

I beg to differ. I think Broderick is much more of a guitar player than Friedman. Both have astronomical talent but broderick is super clean and much faster.

He has previously toured with Nevermore, go figure. Just by playing the complex guitars in that band says this guy is a fucking beast, a master in the theory and he also plays the Spanish guitar, seen him in Youtube, my jaw just dropped.

Nevermore (R.I.P.) is the band that I'm still mourning. Broderick should call Jeff Loomis and put that bitch back together instead of touring on the back of a band that's way past their prime.

I agree. As much as I love the albums done with Marty, after seeing them multiple times with Chris and Marty, yeah....Chris is better.

HA!

That's funny. I'd say either Marty or Chris Poland. Being faster has nothing to do with it!

Not faster, more complete. He has played with Nevermore and knows the theory of music, apart from the fact that I have seen some videos of him in Youtube playing the Spanish guitar. Definitely a beast.

The fact that he played with Nevermore doesn't mean shit. I've seen that several times in these comments. Marty is a better all-around musician. He's better suited for metal than Chris is. Chris' playing is just too much. He is an incredible guitar player, no doubt. But he's a pure shredder. No emotion to his Megadeth solos. They have no identity. I can play nearly all of Marty's solos in my head, but I can't think of a single Chris solo that even stands out.

So I don't really feel too strongly about the guitar playing either. Dave has lost a few steps lately.

It's a shame Dave makes Chris play his new material which is slow and forgettable, then.

"super clean and much faster" are not the only qualities that make a great guitar player. tone, feel, taste—these things also come in to play. i find broderick to be stiff and mechanical, lacking heart or passion. i think friedman is an incredible shredder that also has great taste and knows when to go nuts and when to slow it down a bit. plus he's a rad dude.

Mustaine's always spouting off to get a dig in on former guitarists.

Broderick is certainly a phenomenal guitarist, but let's give Friedman his due...Broderick may be able to play Tornado of Souls note for note, but Friedman wrote it. Sure, it takes great talent to play it, but it also takes great talent to write it. Tornado of Souls is one of dozens of brilliant Friedman solos.

Friedman and Poland had more personality in their playing.

Wow, just noticed that. For a guy who always hosed his record labels, now he will have nobody to blame but himself for his failures.

Poland, Friedman then Broderick. Poland has the most character. Plus it will fry your brain to try and figure his shit out.

He is a Jew ass kisser that's why.

Strange that nobody mentioned Al Pitrelli so far. Just looking at the Rude Awakening DVD shows tremendous differences in play style between Dave and Al. Al seems to be playing effortlessly, even though his fingers move awesome fast. I'm no expert but his technique seemed good.

agree with the Broderick thing. The last two CD's have had excellent guitar work on them.

But he's the lead guitar, and as much as I do love his playing with both Nevermore and Megadeth.. He does not beat the solos that Friedman did on Rust in peace. Im not talking skill, although Friedman possesses lots of that to, but Marty's solos on RIP are some of the best ever recorded.


Hangar 18 etc etc.. But The Tornado of souls solo?
Jawdropping. Pure inspiration

He says that about every guitar player he's brought to the band.

Credit where credit is due, Broderick technically schools them all but the other guys wrote better solos and had a more unique style. Poland's playing sounds like Miles Davis' sax lines. He's awesome!

Marty Friedman > Mustardstain + Chris Robotdrick

Megadeth fans = douchebags!

Mustaine says this about whoever's in his band at the moment. He's so predicable and transparent.

Marty has a lot more feel than Chris. Chris could play circles around him but Marty wrote a lot of Deth's classic solos and has a very distinct style, you know instantly when you hear a solo it's Marty, which is what sets him at another level from Chris.

but Poland and Friedman are better guitarists. I mean Chris is an excellent performer, he executes like few others, but that doesn't make you a better guitarist.

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Technically, yes.
But as a songwriter ? No way !

Broderick is good, but all the Megadeth albums he's been on have been pretty lame. Marty and Chris are both vastly superior anyhow.

hahahahaha

of course, chris is an amazing guitar player from a technical point of view, virtuoso, whatever... but I don't know a single solo that kept on ringing in my ears.
Nothing memorable. just like dave's songs these days.

of course, poland and friedman are better.

pitrelli was always a strange choice and never fit in there, unlike degrasso who was not bad, even though he's no menza when it comes to passion and powerfull fills.
then, mustaine was never too interested in what drummers do, and that roboter behind the kit with its half-empty batteries is the best proof.

This is the problem with metal fans and metal guitarists: who's better, faster, blah blah. If you sat Broderick and Marty down together, they could both match each others' riffs, they both understand theory and counterpoint, they're both simply musicians, like Skolnick. They can go above and beyond the metal style, and only a handful of guitarists in metal can do that. There will never, ever be another Rust in Peace. Ever. Sorry haters, but Marty was a huge part of that. Even in Dave's book he said he'd never met a guitarist like Marty. Marty is a pro. If Dave didn't have Megadeth, he'd be out of a job. Marty and Broderick, like Skolnick, can find work in any genra of music. Who's better? I love Rust in Peace, Marty's work before and after Megadeth. Broderick is simply a guitar beast, a real pro. At their level, I doubt there is anything either one of them could pull off that the other one couldn't learn, transpose, play in a different key or chord figure, anything. They're both the best. And I guess best is relative and a very egocentric concept. They're both getting paid, both 'technical' (I love that term), and both at the top of their respective classes. Sounds like tag-team champs to me.

Look at you dummies, no Dave you dont know anything about who the best guitarist you have ever payed with is, only I know.

Friedman was on one amazing album and a whole bunch of garbage afterwards.

When all the guitarists you are comparing are at the level Broderick, Friedman, and Poland are at, then it really becomes subjective as far as who is better, because they are all so good.

I must say this though: I have seen Megadeth in concert probably 25 times over the past 15 years and Chris Broderick is by far the best live player. When I saw him on the tour where they played the entire Rust In Peace album, I was blown away regarding how well Chris played the Friedman solos live. They all sounded identical to the CD. Every note was perfect. He played the Friedman solos live better than Friedman played them live.

argument is sort of ridiculous. It's kind of like saying who would you rather have sex with, Kate Beckinsale or Eva Mendez? Both guitarists can shred.

No it's not...Beckinsale...

What else is he suppose to say with a new album in the pipe line?

Broderick might, MAYBE be more technically proficient, and that's a big maybe, but Marty was infinitely more tasteful in his playing. Therefore, Friedman > Broderick.

Oh,wait.........????????????

Has without a doubt lost the plot

Chris Poland, Jeff Young and Marty Friedman were all, WITHOUT QUESTION, lightyears ahead of this guy.

He's in the same boat as Al Pitrelli and Glen Drover. He might be the best of those, but he is not the best Megadeth guitarist.

Monotonous ten-a-penny shred robot.

Anyone who's been to a music school will have met at least a dozen Chris Brodericks studying for music degrees. They will, meanwhile, have probably met nobody as awesome and talented as Marty Friedman.

Are considered the best of Megadeth and even though the band had a lot of creative input Dave Mustaine still was the main songwriter all those songs are pretty much his doing, he has always been a control freak especially in the early days. He has always had top notch players in the band and that's because he only works with very talented musicians. For me the best guitarist he ever had was Al Petrelli his feel and tone went well with the Megadeth sound and he wasn't afraid to put his stamp on each solo and song. Chris Broderick is a bad ass no doubt and I'm glad hes in the band, Marty Friedman left on his own accord so saying he should come back is pointless because he doesn't want to be there, does anyone really want to hear a guitar player play songs he doesn't want to play? In his live shows Marty re-arranges Megadeth songs into other styles of music that sound pretty bad. Poland came in as a session musician for The System has Failed and then sued Mustaine. The band that is Megadeth right now is a good solid one, they have a killer guitarist that wants to be in the band and I also think that the drummer is a good fit, he can right good songs and his drumming is great in my opinion. On a final note the new album title sucks.

There are people that *agree* with Mustaine?! There are people saying Chris Broderick "knows the theory of music", as if that's some sort of achievement...

You think Marty Friedman doesn't know music theory? ROFLMAO!

You think Jeff Young and Chris Poland don't know music theory? LLLOOOOL

Those guys are better than Broderick for the following reasons:

- They know their theory, probably more thoroughly than he does
- They understand how to USE theory to create good music, whereas he uses music in a very simplistic and mechanical "high school" kind of way, albeit with lots of speed
- They understand how to use dynamics, whereas he just doesn't and plays very rote guitar parts
- They understand how to play dynamic techniques on the instrument, whereas he doesn't (the guy doesn't even bend in tune rofl)
- They understand the groove of a rhythmic piece and how to piece a lead part around it. Since Marty left, Megadeth has pretty much dropped some of its more exotic rhythm sections, largely because the later guitarists don't push Mustaine in that direction. The new songs are boring 4/4 metal tracks. The only exception was TSHF where, you guessed it, Chris Poland was playing lead.
- In short, Marty & Poland (and Dave Mustaine) have a natural ear that no amount of fancy music college rote learning can buy. Sorry, but Chris Broderick has never written a truly memorable guitar lead and probably never will.

Fact is, the 80s was so much more competitive and heavy metal was big business. The standard of playing at the top level was absolutely insane, and - more importantly - attracted players who came from non-metal backgrounds (like Poland) that brought a great variety and unique style to the music because heavy metal was still a big genre that could sometimes land a guitar player massive gigs playing on big hit records. 90s heavy metal players, when metal became more underground, are way more formulaic. They learned metal, they play metal. They may do it well, they may try a few other things here or there, but at the end of the day they are a heavy metal player and you very rarely hear them play something as groovy as earlier Megadeth leads.

Anyone who seriously thinks Broderick is as good as the old Megadeth players *does not* play guitar (or does not play it well). Broderick: hero to shred kiddies on youtube.
Mustaine: clearly had too much smack and Jebus if he really believes this.
Poland & Friedman: Top notch 80s players.

There's only one thing for it, if I'm honest.

DAVE MUSTAINE, LISTEN:

- STOP BABBLING ABOUT JEBUS
- REALISE YOUR HIRED GUNS SUCK
- REPLACE THE DRUMMER AND GET A THRASH PLAYER (I HEAR LOMBARDO'S FREE)
- GET JEFF WATERS ON LEAD
- DO IT NOW

JEFF WATERS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BRODERICK

If they follow your advice, they might make it big one day.

Chris Borderick probably is the best, however, not all great guitarists are great writers of music, and here is where he is trumped by just about every other Megadeth guitarist. Chris B has not come up with a single solo of his own that can hold a candle to the likes of Marty's Tornado Of Souls, Lucretia, Angry Again, Symphony Of Destruction solos, just to name a few! Or Chris Poland's tasteful, tantalising leads in Black Friday, Devil's Island, or Tears In A Vial for a more recent example. Heck, even Al Pitrelli came up with a highly memorable solo in Dread And The Fugitive mind!

Chris is without doubt, an amazing shredder. But he is way down the pecking order, when it comes to feel, tone, and being able to come up with truly memorable solos. Marty, Chris Poland, and even Jeff Young had unique styles and sounds all of their own. Chris Broderick though, sounds no different to many other guitarists who may be highly technically proficient, but are lacking in other, and to me, more important areas.

Another one is Marty's Killing Road solo, a fantastic example of a perfect rock guitar solo.

Broderick? No chance.

Ah yes! That one is another amazing solo of Marty's. In fact, he came up with a lot of great solos on the "Youthanasia" album. The one in "Family Tree" is another awesome one!

People think Chris Broderick is a "more technical" guitarist than Marty Friedman?

Marty Friedman, of course, played joint lead alongside Jason Becker in Cacophony, but ya know, Chris Broderick played a classical set piece and posted in on youtube, so *obviously* he's more technical...

... fucksake.

Was waiting for someone to finally mention Cacaphony...!

Fact.

Chris Poland and Friedman don't know how to read music, so they don't "OFFICIALLY" know music theory. But just cuz they're not some spoiled rich fucks who had their parents pay for GIT or whatever, doesn't mean SHIT! So you're right. There's a diference in KNOWING music theory and "knowing it" from the books. I would take Poland's solos with Megadeth, Damn the Machine or OHM any day over Steve Vai's. Satch does really well blending technicality and soul on Surfing (the album) and I LOVE Paul Gilbert (seems like a down to earth guy and the first two Racer X albums are one of my biggest influences) but yeah, it doesn't mean shit if someone goes to school for music. Only insecure geeks who can't write a solo worth shit would try to tear guitarists down for not going to school for it. Fuck them. I've been in bands with the type (though they may have changed now). The types that had their daddy drive them in their bmws to band practice. Fuck this sounds like class warfare, its not, its just that the solos we remember aren't neccesarily from SCHOOLED musicians. Its Mustaines fault though that he hasn't written very memorable songs/riffs since Countdown (System Has Failed being a slight exception, but many of those were older riffs as has been acknowledged). As for Broderick, his work in Jag Panzer was far more memorable and cool. Its too bad he sought the quick buck (ok its hard to make money nowadays at music) with Mustaine....

partly because Mustaine and Junior have become self-righteous and obnoxious Jesus freaks, and partly because Broderick puts no emotion into his playing while Drover is barely competent at his instrument.

Remember when a new Megadeth record meant guaranteed awesomeness, not another watered down offering of half-baked ideas?

best guitarist he ever worked with. Until the new guy comes along.

Name one memorable solo from Broderick and i'll cut my hand off.

So now Mustaine is back on drugs are we gonna get a decent Megadeth record . It's been a while .

Why do you always have to make every fuckin' post a competition? That's Mustaine view, regardless of yours....Deal with it...

Oustide of this argument about speed and knowledge resides an amazing fusion player in Chris Poland. His albums under Ohmphrey/Ohm are just fanstastic examples of sophisticated fusion.

Well of course Dave is just bragging about his current members like he always does. I would have to say that Broderick may very well be the "best" guitarist he's ever played with, but he sure as fuck isn't the most INTERESTING guitarist he's ever played with. I'll take Poland or Friedman any day!!!

Of course Megadave is gonna spout off about his own guitarists. he's said the same about most of Megadeth's 2nd fiddles.

Broderick is quick and technically proficient as Marty and Chris was. But just because you can jam 1000 notes into a 20 second solo doesn't mean you're a great guitarist. It means you're fast and technically proficient. There's a difference. I'd rather hear a moody, memorable solo than a thousand notes jammed into 20 seconds.

Just my opinion.

It must have wiped his memory clean.

...or maybe it was the crack...
...or the smack...
...or the stickiest of the icky...
...oh wait...it was Jesus that wiped his memory clean. You cant use your brain at all in Jesusland, otherwise it would sound like a bunch of made up bullshit to manipulate you.

I got 1 ,ONE, 1(!!!) commandment for you : Do unto others as you would have done unto you.
Not really a need for any of the others , now is there.

...Chris Poland was/is way underrated.Marty Friedman was the best fit, I think, but not the best guitarist. Pitrelli, Drover, Young ?
Of course not! The best Megadeth guitarist was/is
: Kerry King. Duuuuuhhh.

Seriously, it kinda has to be Pitrelli. Maybe not IN Megadeth, but he is the best guy on the list, I think.

Head Crusher was pretty solid. But anyway, it's obvious back in the RIP/Peace Sells days their solos were more blues/groove oriented. These days at least with Endgame, a straight up heavy metal/thrash album, you can only expect shredding. Mustaine wrote the rhythm tracks and I'm sure Broderick felt the rhythm calls for a fast paced solo. Plus, he studied classical more than anything, so I wouldnt expect him to be 100% into blues oriented concepts on guitar.

Never min me, im only here for the comments

Head Crusher was pretty solid. But anyway, it's obvious back in the RIP/Peace Sells days their solos were more blues/groove oriented. These days at least with Endgame, a straight up heavy metal/thrash album, you can only expect shredding. Mustaine wrote the rhythm tracks and I'm sure Broderick felt the rhythm calls for a fast paced solo. Plus, he studied classical more than anything, so I wouldnt expect him to be 100% into blues oriented concepts on guitar.

BECAUSE HE KILLS IT ON THE LIVE DVD

Head Crusher was pretty solid. But anyway, it's obvious back in the RIP/Peace Sells days their solos were more blues/groove oriented. These days at least with Endgame, a straight up heavy metal/thrash album, you can only expect shredding. Mustaine wrote the rhythm tracks and I'm sure Broderick felt the rhythm calls for a fast paced solo. Plus, he studied classical more than anything, so I wouldnt expect him to be 100% into blues oriented concepts on guitar.

I see the fanboys came out en mass on this thread ahaha

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can replicate any solo from any megadeth album almost perfectly but still adding his own style to the playing. I still say Chris Poland is the best guitarist for Megadeth for his work on the first 2 albums.

Who?


Oh.....

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Sorry Dave, disagree. Marty is the best guitarist you ever worked with. And the greatest era of the band was the Rust In Peace lineup in the 90's


Mustaine , Ellefson , Marty , Menza = the only lineup that matters!

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If that is REALLY true about Chris, I guess we can expect a couple writing credits for him on the new album. Right?

Riiight...

Nope, thats without a doubt and by a huge margin Chris Poland.
And gar samuelson was the best drummer megadeth ever had.

Nope, thats without a doubt and by a huge margin Chris Poland.
And gar samuelson was the best drummer megadeth ever had.

Its all a matter of opinion, I personally agree that Chris Broderick is the best Megadeth guitarist, then Marty Friedman, then after that its pretty much a tossup. He's just so diverse. But many could argue, it doesn't really matter to be honest.

Chis is really good if not the best that has been able to "put up" with the Mustaine machine without turning to substances.

Chris is smart and obviously knows he is a hired hand and hopefully saving all his percentage of tshirt sales like Newstead did.

On the other hand, bot feeling or On the other hand, THAT is some other thing. To me THOSE are his pending matters, no-one is perfect.

one thing about Rust in Peace is that, Chris Poland had a lot to do with Marty´s solos on that album since Marty adapted his playing style to the solos that Chris Poland written and recorded with Megadeth on the rust in peace Demos. Just like Kirk Hammett did on Kill ´em all.
Megadeth has always had great lead guitarists in the band and all of them have their own style. And it´s difficult to say that one exact solo guitarist is the best of them all, but i would say that i like Chris Poland´s solo style the most, because his fusion solos are so full of awesome technique, emotion, feel and have kinda punkish vibe around them in all the Megadeth metal that he played on. So to me his awesome solos style stands out the most.

Sure, Chris is better at playing like a robot. He has zero feeling compared to Friedman and Poland.

I agree 1000%. Chris is mindless with a guitar. He's a great talent, but Jesus Christ... no feeling whatsoever.