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Last Updated: June 19, 2013 6:34 PM




Former Guitarist For GEOFF TATE's QUEENSRŸCHE To Perform With 'Real' QUEENSRŸCHE In Toronto - Mar. 5, 2013
Former MEGADETH and KING DIAMOND guitarist Glen Drover — who left Geoff Tate's version of QUEENSRŸCHE before playing a single show with the band — will join the Todd La Torre-fronted QUEENSRŸCHE on stage this coming Thursday, March 7 at the Phoenix Concert Theatre in Toronto, Ontario, Canada to perform the QUEENSRŸCHE classic "Take Hold Of The Flame".

In a posting on his Twitter account, Glen wrote: "Going up onstage with the REAL QUEENSRŸCHE and play 'Take Hold Of The Flame' this thursday at the Phoenix in Toronto. Going to be fun stuff!"

Drover announced his departure from Geoff Tate's version of QUEENSRŸCHE last November. He explained in a statement: "I am really sorry to say that I have decided to bow out of Geoff Tate's QUEENSRŸCHE. I was very excited about doing this gig initially, but learned in the past week or so that it's in my best interest not to do this right now. I feel really bad for those who were excited about the idea, and to Geoff himself, who, I have to say, was very nice to me on my past trip to Seattle. I, of course, am very disappointed for arriving at this point, and making this decision, to say the least. I sincerely wish the Geoff and the band all the luck on what they do in the future."

The Todd La Torre-fronted version of QUEENSRŸCHE has inked a deal with Century Media Records for the release of the band's new studio album. Due on June 11, the CD marks the debut release from the lineup comprised of La Torre (vocals; ex-CRIMSON GLORY), Michael Wilton (guitar), Parker Lundgren (guitar), Eddie Jackson (bass) and Scott Rockenfield (drums).

The Geoff Tate-fronted version of QUEENSRŸCHE has set "Frequency Unknown" as the title of its new album, due on April 23 via the Los Angeles-based independent label Cleopatra Records. The CD was produced by Jason Slater at a studio in Northern California.

Although a lineup for Tate's QUEENSRŸCHE was originally announced in the fall of 2012, things have changed. The band will now feature Tate along with bassist Rudy Sarzo (OZZY OSBOURNE, DIO, WHITESNAKE, QUIET RIOT), guitarist Kelly Gray (QUEENSRŸCHE 1998-2001), keyboardist Randy Gane and new additions, guitarist Robert Sarzo (QUIET RIOT, HURRICANE) and drummer Simon Wright (AC/DC, DIO, RHINO BUCKET). Guest musicians on the CD include K.K. Downing (JUDAS PRIEST), Chris Poland (MEGADETH), Ty Tabor (KING'S X), Paul Bostaph (SLAYER, TESTAMENT, EXODUS), Lita Ford, Brad Gillis (NIGHT RANGER), Dave Meniketti (Y&T) and Craig Locicero (FORBIDDEN).



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COMMENT | !!!
posted by : reivaj667
3/5/2013 12:28:16 PM
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Geoff Tate is pwned


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COMMENT | 'RE: !!!'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
3/5/2013 2:19:22 PM
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I thought Pamela Moore was gonna be hard enough for Vest to swallow (although I'm sure he's had tons of practice), but This has got to suck hard!!!


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahqahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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COMMENT | REAL Queensrÿche...
posted by : Voice Of Sanitry
3/5/2013 12:28:29 PM
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BOOM TEAM TATE.


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posted by : Sickboy666
3/5/2013 12:28:46 PM
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HAHAHA


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posted by : The_Bells_of_Lal
3/5/2013 12:29:42 PM
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This is a big slap in the face to Geoff. :-)


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posted by : ShadowOfTheWave
3/5/2013 12:32:49 PM
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Considering this he probably left Geoff's version because of negative fan backlash, you know after seeing how the majority of the fanbase views Geoff's band.


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posted by : Dharma
3/5/2013 12:32:54 PM
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Haha, awesome.


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COMMENT | Attn Taint Lovers
posted by : OldSchoolMetal
3/5/2013 12:34:42 PM
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This is the way you send a massive "FU" ... not with some stupid album cover that is guaranteed to be way harder than the actual album.


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posted by : godfleshh
3/5/2013 12:35:25 PM
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Fuck, i really hope that Chris DeGarmo will join the REAL QUEENSRŸCHE on the future records\shows.


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posted by : Sgt H@kk
3/5/2013 12:36:55 PM
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He probably left because he found out he'd be just another "stage musician" and not get to play a single note on the album...

You know, the album featuring SO MANY GUESTS and Metal Legends :-)

Can't wait for the Tate Family to pop in and tell us how it REALLY is :-)


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posted by : Sickboy666
3/5/2013 12:39:04 PM
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HAHAHA


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posted by : Dharma
3/5/2013 12:40:04 PM
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Hey, Tate! THIS is how you send someone an FU. Just so you know.

Glenn Drover is now my hero. Hahahahaha. This just made my day.


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posted by : YourFavoriteBandSux
3/5/2013 12:41:57 PM
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This is priceless..


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posted by : For Whom The Bell Trolls
3/5/2013 12:44:09 PM
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That's the straw that broke Geoff Tate's vest

The ship is sinking!


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COMMENT | Let's see how the employees spin this one.
posted by : by2117
3/5/2013 12:46:38 PM
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They should be arriving in 3-2-1


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COMMENT | OUCH....
posted by : SLAYTANIC WAR RABBIT
3/5/2013 12:47:53 PM
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HEY GEOFF,I BET THAT STUNG LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER, HUH?


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posted by : Sadistikexekution
3/5/2013 12:49:16 PM
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Ouch Tate, seems like Drover exposed your sorry ass.
Not that we needed to be reminded that you're a complete asshole.


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COMMENT | hey here's a shitty joke for you . . .
posted by : 11:11
3/5/2013 12:52:35 PM
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Geoffe: Glen! But why!? Why are you leaving my band!?

Drover: Sorry, bro. Taint what I though't it'd be!

BAHHHAHAHAHAHA


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COMMENT | lollllllll
posted by : fortress
3/5/2013 12:53:17 PM
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lolllllll


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posted by : Bladdermouth
3/5/2013 12:55:31 PM
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He was all happy to be associated with Tate, and suddenly he turned his back around and joined the other QR! LOL What a goof. And what a mess! Queensryche 1981-97 RIP


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COMMENT | Musical Genius
posted by : BatGecko
3/5/2013 12:59:42 PM
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Poor Glen Drover. After a single meeting with Geoff Tate, Drover realized that he was no match for Tate's musical genius. He was so awestruck, so overwhelmed by the sheer magnitude of Tate's essence, that he had no choice but to back out.

I just hope that Drover holds on to that moment, cherishes it for all time. It's not often than one gets to bask in the warm light of a musical god, even if it is for the briefest of moments.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Musical Genius'
posted by : orcslayr23
3/5/2013 1:30:04 PM
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Can't tell if serious or trolling...


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Musical Genius'''
posted by : BatGecko
3/5/2013 2:13:14 PM
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Open your heart, and the truth shall be revealed.


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posted by : eulogist
3/5/2013 12:59:45 PM
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Hahaha. Hahahahaha. Good stuff. June 11th people. June 11th.


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posted by : Dharma
3/5/2013 1:00:53 PM
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Drover probably walked into the room after Tate first called him expecting to be able to play alongside Wilton, Jackson and Rockenfield. What he got was Blotzer, Geoff's lackeys, and Sarzo. No wonder he left quickly.

Now he gets to play with the real band. I hope that someone gets it on YouTube.


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posted by : 6stringking
3/5/2013 1:03:42 PM
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Geoff got PWND!!!!!!!!!


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posted by : Von Helsing
3/5/2013 1:03:57 PM
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A washed up musician, who cares about him anyway.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : gamblor
3/5/2013 1:24:39 PM
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You were probably excited as hell when his joining was first announced. Now that he's no longer interested you change your tune to suit your needs.

You are a spineless dimwit.


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COMMENT | All funny except...
posted by : iwasthere
3/5/2013 1:04:45 PM
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we're talking Glen Drover here, what more would you expect?

Let this death spiral continue!


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posted by : Dubya90
3/5/2013 1:06:54 PM
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Hahahaha, this whole thing has been keeping me entertained for quite some time now. Idegaf about QR or this cocksucker. As a matter of fact, I didn't even know who Geoff Tate was until all of the bullshit started going down. Glad I looked into it, definitely good for the lulz.


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posted by : MrMcThrasher III
3/5/2013 1:07:51 PM
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Definitely one of the best headlines from Blabbermouth.


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COMMENT | lmao
posted by : syko kyd
3/5/2013 1:10:12 PM
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Geoff Tate must be really pissed off somewhere right now. I wonder how he's going to play this off to make it seem like he's the victimdoes like he usually does.


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posted by : Bladdermouth
3/5/2013 1:10:21 PM
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The F U album from TateRyche and then this drama of Drover playing with ToddRyche LOL We have a full fledged war going on, fellas. It's getting ugly...really ugly and fast. LOL


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posted by : moogy
3/5/2013 1:10:30 PM
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It feels like Christmas every time there's a Geoff Tate related article on BM. This takes the cake so far.


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COMMENT | @VonHelsing
posted by : Dharma
3/5/2013 1:10:48 PM
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Geoff Tate cared enough to call Glenn Drover in the first place.


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posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
3/5/2013 1:14:08 PM
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That's funny. Now he's a "washed up musician but when he briefly joined Scabryche he was a "world class guitar player."


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 4:20:19 PM
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Kind of the same way as how he was once a world class guitarist, then he joined up with Tate he was only a hack and a scab. And now that he's with the other Queensryche he's a world class guitarist again? Yeah, it is funny.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : bigsled
3/5/2013 5:20:31 PM
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Same with Blotzer. The trolls on here called him a hack . Then... when he decided to play with Ratt again instead ,the trolls said how good he is and shouldn't have even considered playing with the legend known as Tate

People on here are hilarious but also pathetic ...

Toddy the Troll is a clone singer trying to copy his Idol, Tate . He sounds nothing like tate ( even now ) on empire , rage, om , promised land. Thats a fact . He can only hit the high notes on ep and warning .
Cant wait for FU in April and to go see the singer Troll is trying to copy .
I wonder if he gets paid the same ?


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COMMENT | @ von helsing
posted by : Voice Of Sanitry
3/5/2013 1:14:39 PM
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Well, you and the rest of camp tate did for that five minutes he was in Tate's sham of a band.

You're all so incredibly spineless, clueless and without any sort of personal integrity whatsoever.

Pitiful and so pitiable.


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COMMENT | 'RE: @ von helsing'
posted by : gamblor
3/5/2013 1:25:51 PM
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Like how they thought getting Blotzer was so amazing. Then when he left they acted like they never wanted the guy?


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: @ von helsing'''
posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 4:21:48 PM
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and again, how the haters laughed at Blotzer, called him a scab and said that he'd never be able to full the part. Now these same people are all excited that he's back with Ratt putting out a new album


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: @ von helsing'''''''
posted by : bigsled
3/5/2013 5:23:09 PM
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Opps, should have read further down Scatter,lol..............


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posted by : shapechangerVII
3/5/2013 1:17:35 PM
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$42.50? Fuck that. I'm looking forward to seeing this Queensryche as much as the next guy but there is not a shot in hell I'm paying 42 fucking 50.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : TexasMetHead
3/5/2013 1:40:48 PM
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Obviously everyone makes their own decision about the bang for the buck. Personnaly, I'll pay $42.50/ticket to take my family to see them if they hit town. We saw Queensryche for the Dedicated to Chaos tour at the House of Blues. I'm more stoked to see them now and anxious to hear the new cd in June. No way in hell am I paying $25/ticket to see Tate in April when he hits town.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 4:22:35 PM
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Go see them for Free at the Wolf Den In Uncasville, CT. http://mohegansun.com/entertainment/schedule-of-events.html?page=7&


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : Get up and make it work
3/6/2013 7:12:03 AM
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You should easily have a great seat up front, considering the only fans in attendance will be camp Tate and a few drunks.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Evil_Twin
3/5/2013 1:28:35 PM
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Holy fuck, this is too funny!!!!!


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posted by : LALSTE
3/5/2013 1:29:42 PM
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thats fucking confusing !!!


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COMMENT | Well....
posted by : Abyss_of_Blood
3/5/2013 1:29:56 PM
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I just officially lost all respect for Glen Drover... what a douche...



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COMMENT | Good on Glen!
posted by : Cerebral Eulogy
3/5/2013 1:30:07 PM
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Game.

Set.

Match.


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COMMENT | Well said Glen!
posted by : mamba
3/5/2013 1:32:19 PM
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Finally, an inside informant breaks the ice. Geoff you really hurt your former band mates and fans. You disrespectful prick. Karma's a bitch you know. You and all-star Queensryche and we're not buying it. Let it go dude!


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COMMENT | wow
posted by : BoroBG
3/5/2013 1:35:46 PM
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This keeps getting better and better! Will definetly refresh this page later on, i'm sure it will be full of funny stuff.
Keep on the good work!


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COMMENT | Forehead Unexplainable
posted by : ragingsteel
3/5/2013 1:37:50 PM
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Fucking hell this guy was in Megadeth and he can't last one day with GT!
That's some serious stinking bishop right there..


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COMMENT | ...
posted by : LouCipherr
3/5/2013 1:38:25 PM
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HAHAHAHA, priceless!


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COMMENT | wow
posted by : BoroBG
3/5/2013 1:39:43 PM
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This keeps getting better and better! Will definetly refresh this page later on, i'm sure it will be full of funny stuff.
Keep on the good work!


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COMMENT | He pulled off............
posted by : JJJB
3/5/2013 1:40:50 PM
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quite a coup!

Gotta love it!!




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COMMENT | #
posted by : thedddemon
3/5/2013 1:48:32 PM
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Too cheap from Glen to be nice to Tate on the press release and then go out and talk about a real QR. the blabbermouth crowd seems to be winning. Definitely affected Glen.


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COMMENT | F U Tate!
posted by : Sabbathman
3/5/2013 1:48:50 PM
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Glen Drove his middle finger in your nose.


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COMMENT | Hilarious...
posted by : Gino C
3/5/2013 1:49:37 PM
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... the tiny things Tate-Hate Trolls Hi5 each other over.

This is coming from a guy that walked out of Megadeth at the height of their comeback, because he couldn't hang. Meanwhile his brother is still there and quiet happy. So is Chris Broderick... so glad that he bolted because we would not have that genius on our radar.

This is nothing compared to the fact they will be second in racing out a half baked record. It's getting ugly indeed.

GT news blast in 5, 4, 3, 2,


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COMMENT | 'RE: Hilarious...'
posted by : eulogist
3/5/2013 2:03:01 PM
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You do understand that they've brought in Jimbo Barton for this record and that they've taken their time with releasing it to make sure it's right.


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COMMENT | hahahahahahaha
posted by : trolling_for_biscuits
3/5/2013 1:53:19 PM
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Best blabbermouth headline ever!

Glenn Drover's email must be on fire at the moment. If blabbermouth is anything to go by I bet theres about 1000 emails saying 'Good move, nice one' and 1 saying 'grrr you fucking asshole, I want my wine back'

No Glenn Drover = No Queensryche

Bwahahahaha :D


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posted by : Dharma
3/5/2013 1:57:58 PM
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"second in racing out a half baked record"

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So you admit that Tate is just shitting out an album of K&T and DTC rejects and that he's not really putting together anything of quaity?

Good to know.


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posted by : 5142
3/5/2013 2:02:20 PM
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If it was Degarmo then would a will be a real surprise! But still....Queenscryhe - 1 Team Taint - 0


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : LALSTE
3/5/2013 2:06:53 PM
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If i was Degarmo, i would start a 3rd Queensryche !!


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COMMENT | Gino C...
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
3/5/2013 2:05:59 PM
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Actually, before Chris Broderick replaced Drover in Megadeth, he was playing alongside Jeff Loomis (aka God) in a little band called Nevermore. So, contrary to your assertion, he was already on the radar of actual metal fans.


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COMMENT | Tate is Pathetic
posted by : Vilehorde666
3/5/2013 2:11:56 PM
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Tate Fails at Rock attempts broadway stage career as backup singer!... Billboard magazine headline


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posted by : Deadsinktohell
3/5/2013 2:24:30 PM
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Wow, that has just got to suck.



FirereaverX and Mister Mish, what's your "take" on this?

I just want to see how you guys can keep spinning the truth for bullshit.


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posted by : Geddy Lee
3/5/2013 2:45:46 PM
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sick burn


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COMMENT | The truth was
posted by : Typhoon71
3/5/2013 2:48:47 PM
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Geoff nominated Glen to be in the band without telling him and made a press release etc and Glen kind of went with it then realized "nah this is not for me" and he knows the other guys way better than he does Tate


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COMMENT | Stupidly heavy?
posted by : pigchop
3/5/2013 2:58:43 PM
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The album art featured on the upcoming record from Geoff Tate has a few problems. And after reading the quote from Geoff, that the music will be "stupidly heavy", the answer to the problems became obvious:

http://s8.postimage.org/xt1t1dt2d/heavystupid.jpg



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COMMENT | HEY pigchop
posted by : fortress
3/5/2013 3:01:41 PM
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DO you still have the AXL rose pick with his cheeseburgers ? :)


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COMMENT | cheeseburgers and roses.
posted by : pigchop
3/5/2013 3:05:39 PM
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Ah...yeah, I recall doing that one. I'll have a look for it.


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COMMENT | 'RE: cheeseburgers and roses.'
posted by : fortress
3/5/2013 4:08:11 PM
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Yeah that one


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posted by : Rich376
3/5/2013 3:07:07 PM
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I love how Glen Drover refers to the band as "the REAL Queensryche"


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COMMENT | Too bad the polar ice caps are melting
posted by : Destined to Destroy
3/5/2013 3:11:33 PM
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Tate's going to need all of them after this.


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posted by : smoothknight
3/5/2013 3:13:10 PM
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Maybe the F U just stands for "Fuck Up"


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COMMENT | Twat as we know him.
posted by : BizarreReverend
3/5/2013 3:14:11 PM
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is releasing his last album "F-U". This record and the short-and-to-desolve-before-5-shows tour 2013 will be the end of "King Douchebag" Geoff Twat´s "music business.


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posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 3:32:41 PM
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lol I just saw that this 'real' Queensryche is playing at the Wolf Den at the Mohegan Sun near me. For those who aren't familiar with Mohegan Sun and the Wolf Den, it's a stage where bands perform FREE CONCERTS for the casino patrons.


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posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 3:46:42 PM
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Thumb down this comment all you like. It doesn't change the facts. http://mohegansun.com/entertainment/schedule-of-events.html?page=7& March 30. Queensryche Wolf Den Free Show


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : Morpheous
3/6/2013 10:30:07 AM
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Jeffery can't afford to do a Free Show, he needs the Gas Money for the Bus!


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COMMENT | re: The Irony
posted by : mattbrood666
3/5/2013 3:32:48 PM
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yet you loved him when he was in Camp Tate a few months ago you hypocrite!


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posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 3:39:12 PM
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As far as Drover goes, it's a non issue to me. Musicians are allowed to have their opinions and tastes just as much as fans are. Geoff has more than enough quality musicians on his current album for me not to miss Drover in the least.

Besides, I'll take Chris Poland over Glen Drover any day.


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posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 3:45:13 PM
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Another thought.

Six months ago the Blabberheads here loved Drover

Then he Joined Tate and all of a sudden Drover sucked and was a hack.

Now Drover leaves Tate and is performing with the other Queensryche for a single song on one tour date and all of a sudden he's awesome again.

Can you Blabberheads possibly flip flop any more?


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : paulf
3/5/2013 3:52:29 PM
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The bottom line is; no one has ever cared about Glen Drover either way. They're just delighted that because of his actions, Geoff Tate's day might be ruined.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
3/5/2013 5:57:27 PM
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Oh, the other explanation is that Vest is a total tool, and nobody wants to see him go on with this anymore. Reasons why we think he's a tool: His behaviors towards his own band (at the time) in south America, 2) his jackassity at Rocklahoma, 3) his ridiculous explanation/cryfest on That metal show, 4) his total disregard for his fans during the last six records, 5) his AWFUL and lame lyrics on his new release kings and thieves, 6) his amazingly embarrassing reaction to being fired, and finally his hiring of scabs to form his own pathetic version of Queensryche.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : Deadsinktohell
3/5/2013 6:01:48 PM
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now, the reason we were disappointed in Glenn was because he had joined the above mentioned douche bag's band, but then he left, so now we respect him again. Hope that helps out a little.


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COMMENT | RE: The Irony
posted by : Dharma
3/5/2013 3:49:10 PM
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That's hilarious. You were praising Drover as the Second Coming of the Metal Gods for being associated with Tate back when that press relase came out. Now he's stupid and clueless?

ROFL. It must suck to see your time as a paid GT lackey coming to an end.


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COMMENT | @euologist @daharma
posted by : Gino C
3/5/2013 3:50:38 PM
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In my opnion, both bands are releasing half baked records, because they have to... the name still carries some value and its a fight to the finish.


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COMMENT | Queensryche is dead
posted by : wild rover of hell
3/5/2013 3:50:38 PM
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has been for more than 10 years now

All this hype and drama is going to end with two heaping piles of shit

Just my prediction but I'm right


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COMMENT | personally...
posted by : mattbrood666
3/5/2013 3:53:15 PM
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I never "flip flopped" as you say..I was a fan of Drover before during and after his short stint in TaintRyche because I knew he was a hired gun..I'm sure the truth will be revealed soon about Drover's "recruitment" by Taint and why he left.


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COMMENT | A-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!
posted by : Namnikufecin
3/5/2013 3:54:12 PM
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QR - Camp Tate 2-0


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posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
3/5/2013 3:55:48 PM
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I don't recall hearing "I'd rather see Chris Poland" when Drover signed on to be part of Geoff's band. I guess your boss wouldn't have approved that comment way back then.


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COMMENT | @mike_portnoys_empty_tissue_box
posted by : Gino C
3/5/2013 3:59:43 PM
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DUH! ... and before that it was JagPanzer.

He was barely a full time member of Nevermore, now he's rockstar status.

I'm def thankful that's he's now a world class musician and WAY more know than he was before.

The point is that what does that say about Drovers attitude? Ask the Testament fans (or the band) what they thought of the shows he subbed while Alex was playing in TSO?


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COMMENT | @Gino C
posted by : Dharma
3/5/2013 4:03:23 PM
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Except that Tate is just shitting out another album with Jason Slater and using a bunch of K&T and DTC rejects. PLUS, he has to re-record four older QR songs in order to get anything close to marginal interest in his Fakeryche band.

At least QR have written and recorded a full slate of new songs AS A BAND. Plus, they have Jimbo Barton behind the wheel producing it all. He hasn't worked with these guys since Promised Land. As soon as Tate gets fired, he comes back? Ask yourself why.

Whatever happens, at least the guys in QR will have done things honestly, as a band, unlike Tate who is just recycling a bunch of unused turds from the same tin-eared hack that shat out K&T and DTC.


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COMMENT | 'RE: @Gino C'
posted by : Evil_Twin
3/5/2013 4:22:56 PM
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I'm going to have to disagree with you Dharma. I don't know why you keep insisting that Geoff is "using a bunch of K&T and DTC rejects". I think you're way off base. There is no shortage of new material. Jason Slater is perfectly capable of writing shitty ass disposable song tapestries for Mr. Voice B. Gone to sing over at the drop of a hat. Hell, he's probably written two more of them in the time it took me to type this!


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: @Gino C'''
posted by : Deadsinktohell
3/5/2013 5:58:53 PM
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that was priceless man!!


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Vagician
3/5/2013 4:04:43 PM
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You finally gonna give Portnoy a call Geoff??

QUEEN THEATER!!!!!!!

Make it happen! The lolz will be mind blowing!


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COMMENT | Scatter
posted by : Evil_Twin
3/5/2013 4:04:44 PM
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Actually, when Geoff's abomination was first announced, most everyone said that Drover was the only one of merit. I'm sure someone must have talked shit, but I don't recall anyone saying he "sucked" or he was a "hack". That's just bullshit. Nice to see you're learning how to make shit up as you go along like the rest of Camp Tate!


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posted by : Dharma
3/5/2013 4:07:25 PM
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Mike Portnoy would rather eat glass than do anything with Tate.

The guy was in Brazil when all the drama first went down, since he was playing for Fates Warning at the time. No way in hell would he want anything to do with GT after that.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : ParasiteLost
3/5/2013 9:26:21 PM
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Portnoy has hated Geoff for years, long before the events in Brazil.


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COMMENT | Gino C...
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
3/5/2013 4:08:55 PM
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I actually was at that Testament show in Hollywood (Megadeth filmed and released a dvd). I thought Drover did ok. I knew in advance that he's no Alex Skolnick. Anybody who was surprised by that knows jack shit about playing guitar.


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COMMENT | Am I the only one who noticed...
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
3/5/2013 4:18:38 PM
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that this story was up for a couple hours with no word from Scatter or FRx, and then they both conveniently showed up simultaneously, just in time to agree with each other? It's as if they were sitting in an office, waiting on the official instructions on how to spin this story. An actual press release takes a bit of time to write so Mr. Mish should be dropping by in a little while.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Am I the only one who noticed...'
posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 4:29:29 PM
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Wow, imagine that, a person posts more after work and during lunch hours. Call the press.


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posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 4:28:18 PM
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Huh, I just checked out Glen's Twitter page and the 'real' Queensryche comment isn't even there.

https://twitter.com/glendrover555

Either this story is BS or Glen can't stand by his words.


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COMMENT | Camp Tater-Tots...
posted by : Word2YourMuffler
3/5/2013 4:31:31 PM
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What did the 5 fingers say to the face?

BITCH SLAP!

Drover Rules.


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COMMENT | You guys are reaching
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
3/5/2013 4:48:15 PM
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He still called them by their real name: Queensryche. And Scatter, that comment about posting after work was funny. You both happened to get off work in the early afternoon and made it home and got online at the same time? We all know who you work for and what you're paid to do.


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COMMENT | Oh, shit !!!
posted by : Green Machinist
3/5/2013 4:59:26 PM
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Best thing Ive seen on here in a while. Brutal!
Geoffie and his "team" must have shit themselves when they saw that.

....I visualize a atom bomb going off in slow motion and growing in speed and volume as the explosion gets closer and louder then rips through Tate's camp like bombs through buildings...



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posted by : Dharma
3/5/2013 5:02:12 PM
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Sorry, Tate nut-swingers. Doesn't matter if Drover went back and deleted the original tweet or changed it.

The internet is forever. He is on record calling Todd, Parker, Michael, Scott, and Eddie the REAL Queensryche. The rest is details.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 5:11:11 PM
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And that makes it official huh? May as well tell the judge to cancel the case, Glen Dover has made a decision.


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COMMENT | BTW!
posted by : Gino C
3/5/2013 5:08:00 PM
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I'm not talking shit about Drovers playing... Just his inability to commit to a project. He comes off as a stick in the mud that doesn't work well with others. Love how he retracted his "real" comments. High5!

Also, I"ll take a half baked release from the original than a half baked a copy of a copy of a copy... sorry the 3 amigos and 2 hired temps are just not capable of an original thought. I mean look at played out new logo and the 90 sec clip. And a set list that only has 3 "return to history" songs.

I mean stop kidding yourselves... and to add insult they're scheduled to open for Bret Michaels!! Not even Poison... Bret Bandana Michaels!?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Why? Because they're managed by a tribute band manager and booked by tribute band booking agency. They hired an expensive producer for a licensing deal on a tiny label. Get your credit cards ready fanboys... there are VIP packages in the works.

Should I lay down some cash for a bottle of whip ale or should I bid on the sweaty robe that Scott just listed on his eBay store?


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COMMENT | 'RE: BTW!'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
3/5/2013 5:47:16 PM
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dude, you're trying way to hard to sound "ok" with everything. I'm not telling you to stop though, the rest of us enjoy this show way too much. So Gino, what are your thoughts on the extra songs on the new fakeryche cd? Also wondering what you think of the Fakeryche promo picture with Vest in that awesome vest and hat. thoughts?


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COMMENT | 'GIno'
posted by : roosk
3/5/2013 6:00:28 PM
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You know the REAL Queensryche is headlining in Pennsylvania this weekend.The venue is about twice the size of a place called The Staircase where I saw them with Tate when they were touring in support of Tribe


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3/5/2013 5:12:29 PM
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Nope you need to save the cash so you can put more guest musicians on the next album


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COMMENT | I predict the future:
posted by : saskmetal
3/5/2013 5:13:19 PM
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One year from now Tate will be long forgotten, broke from legal costs, divorced, and touring with his saxophone quartet in jazz clubs drunk as a bum. Where will Scatter, Mister Mish, Bladdermouth, Firerx, Von Helsing and friends have to work? Who's nuts can they swing on then? Maybe there will be another disgraced rock star they can leech onto? I hope for their sake that there is. I sincerely wish you guys and gals the best in your job hunt.

P.S. Miranda, you might want to try stripping. I heard the talent runs in the family.


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COMMENT | 'RE: I predict the future:'
posted by : bigsled
3/5/2013 5:46:20 PM
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What will you , evil and others do after ? You all get sad when Fire,Scatter and others haven't showed up in awhile on here.
You wont be able to come on the internet after masturbating to a picture of a nude wizard and argue with Mish and the others anymore when this is all over......


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: I predict the future:'''
posted by : Evil_Twin
3/5/2013 6:08:50 PM
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I prefer naked albino bunny rabbits!


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: I predict the future:'''''''
posted by : smoothknight
3/6/2013 8:15:24 AM
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been watching vids of susan again havent you.


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3/5/2013 5:33:03 PM
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Thank you for the thumbs down. Now I know you read my post. I am humbly at your service and gratitude.


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COMMENT | saskmetal
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
3/5/2013 5:35:37 PM
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I think that based on experience alone, Scott Weiland would be lucky to have them.


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posted by : myself
3/5/2013 5:44:59 PM
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Ha Ha Ha. Being a fly on the wall in the Tate household would have been funny.


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posted by : saskmetal
3/5/2013 5:52:36 PM
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oh...sorry Big Sled. I forgot you were one of the nutswingers and Taint lickers. My apologies. I will include you in future posts. Actually I won't get sad when you despicable bunch leave Blabbermouth, because discussions on metal bands won't be filled with slanted propaganda and lies courtesy of personal relationships with disgraced rockstars who need damage control in forums.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 6:03:49 PM
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How mature. Keep proving yourself as nothing more than a troll.


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COMMENT | Are the Tater-Tots Getting Overtime?
posted by : Word2YourMuffler
3/5/2013 5:57:22 PM
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I can hear Jeff and Susan: "Damage Control!! Damage Control!! Get on Blabbermouth now! This is not a drill!!"


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COMMENT | 'RE: Are the Tater-Tots Getting Overtime?'
posted by : Evil_Twin
3/5/2013 6:10:50 PM
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"This is not a drill!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA


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COMMENT | 'RE: Are the Tater-Tots Getting Overtime?'
posted by : bigsled
3/5/2013 6:17:01 PM
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I do have a question for all of you trollryche lovers....

What kind of damage control can possibly be happening here when there are 40-60 thumbs up for jabs at the legend ,Tate and 10 or less for ToddyTroll ?? Isn't most reading these posts Troll lovers anyway ? What would be the point ?


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Are the Tater-Tots Getting Overtime?'''
posted by : bigsled
3/5/2013 6:42:07 PM
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^^^^^^

Nobody ??

Nobody on here can answer the question ...


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3/5/2013 5:59:29 PM
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Blotzer was a hack before he joined Tate and he's still a hack. Drover, not that I care much about him at all, made the right choice.

And why is Tate's group not a cover band? He only wrote the lyrics to those tunes, which as we all know, is the least essential part of music.

There are more ORIGINAL members in the real version. Tate has how many? Yeah, himself.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 6:05:16 PM
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They would most definitely be a cover band if they never released new material. That however doesn't seem to be the case.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : Evil_Twin
3/5/2013 6:14:18 PM
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So that makes Jason Slater an original member? Because he's the only one writing music in Geoff's band! That guy could shit out a "queensryche" album before breakfast if he needed to. Too bad it's gonna suck donkey dick like everything else he has done with Ego Boy!


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COMMENT | @deadsinktohell
posted by : Gino C
3/5/2013 6:04:40 PM
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Not sure what you mean by trying to hard to be ok... I'm not trying. I'm OK with it... plain and simple. I'm having fun with it, my QR died years ago. But the Tate-hate side just needs to be checked constantly. I mean look at Saskmetal response above, that is a prime example of the retarded comments that come into play... Taking it personal and talking about the dudes family!?

The other side doesn't say anything about the wives, daughters or girlfriends... Believe there is plenty to talk about. Unfunny vest, bald, wine, spit, jokes... plus claiming everybody that has anything positive to say about Tate is on some sort of payroll. Lame and is a blast to call out.

I think it was smart of GT to re-record the tracks... something that the Tate-hate Trolls have been kind of requesting. If it sounds half way decent it's good for his case. So is beating them to the punch on a new release, come on that came out of nowhere a few weeks ago and now it's a reality.

I think the promo picture isn't any better than the RW one... I mean look at that pictures. You have ancient ass Eddie trying to look all tough!? All of them mugging with shades, like they're all heavy and shit. When they're clearly not. Not to mention that whip and the hired guitar temp both rock vests?

What do you think of the temp singers pleather pants that he wears at every show?


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COMMENT | 'RE: @deadsinktohell'
posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 6:07:01 PM
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I get a good laugh at the fact that they've had to convince theirselves that all the Tate fans have to be family members. Hey, whatever they need to do to sleep at night.


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COMMENT | 'RE: @deadsinktohell'
posted by : Evil_Twin
3/5/2013 6:19:16 PM
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"I think it was smart of GT to re-record the tracks... something that the Tate-hate Trolls have been kind of requesting. If it sounds half way decent it's good for his case."

Yeah, I can't count the times I've seen everyone beg Geoff to re-record Queensryche songs!?!?!?! And what do you mean "half way decent"? It's almost like you're implying he can't sing anymore! Bwahahahaha


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COMMENT | Scatter:
posted by : saskmetal
3/5/2013 6:07:14 PM
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Scatter, you are the fucking troll!! You are the only poster on Blabbermouth who goes post after post, even way after the thread is dead to get your two cents in to contradict anyone upset with Tate and his antics. You go line by line attacking anyone critical of Tate. Who the fuck would do that unless they were on his inner circle? You really need to look in the mirror. Troll away loser.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Scatter:'
posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 6:19:57 PM
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1) because I don't care for the irrational haters. 2) the haters fuel me. 3) It's entertaining. Seriously though. Look back at all the Queensryche and Tate threads. For some reason its the LaTorre version's fans who are the ones that general resort to insults, obscenities, cursing and general hate.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Scatter:'
posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 6:21:37 PM
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oh and you know what, I bet that you wouldn't even have noticed me if I had just jumped on the Tate hate bandwagon like the majority.


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posted by : gamblor
3/5/2013 6:09:58 PM
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The point being, neither is a cover band in any way. I'd still love it if all the originals got back together and made a kickass record. But we know that's not going to happen, at least it's not likely.

I'm not even a huge Queensryche fan. I probably would be if they hadn't declined so sharply in the mid-90's. That decline can be traced to the frontman.


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posted by : gamblor
3/5/2013 6:13:42 PM
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And I, for one, have never accused any of the pro-Tate side of being family/employees. A completely unnecessary arguing point. They may be wrong, but that's all that's necessary to point out.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Evil_Twin
3/5/2013 6:25:08 PM
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I disagree. This is one of the things I am most upset about. Mister Mish comes on here and literally posts press releases as if they are coming from a regular person. In fact, that person posted as a regular blabbermouth visitor until someone pointed out that they stated facts ONLY his management could know, then they abandoned the "average fan" routine. I never thought I would see the day a professional musician would have their team go to a random message board and try to manipulate people. It's utterly disgusting! They have no fucking morals whatsoever!!!


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COMMENT | This..
posted by : mr fuzzy
3/5/2013 6:13:45 PM
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just tells you Drover can put up Mustaines bullshit, but not Tates bullshit.

I think Drover has officially become the most interesting man in the world.

"I don't always play with Queensryche, but when I do, it's the Queensryche without Geoff Tate."

Wise move my friend, wise move.


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posted by : gamblor
3/5/2013 6:41:46 PM
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Evil_Twin...you do have a point.


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posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
3/5/2013 7:04:57 PM
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We accuse them of being family/employees because that's the only way to explain their need to spin everything negative about Tate into a ridiculous positive; one that nobody can see except for them. Geoff Tate could become a serial killer who rapes and strangles mentally disabled children and Scatter & FireReaver would say, "Geoff Tate is #1 on the FBI's most wanted list. Todd LaTorre didn't even make the top ten. Geoff = legend!"


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posted by : Scatter
3/5/2013 7:08:40 PM
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The other way to explain it is that we're actual fans.


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COMMENT | This says it all....
posted by : mattbrood666
3/5/2013 7:36:23 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151478534652943&set=a.111665147942.96360.88398722942&type=1&theater


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posted by : Adveser
3/5/2013 7:40:33 PM
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Yep. I'm a fan, but I'm not on Toddryche's side. They sat on their asses and later blamed Geoff for the last few records being ill received. Some people are never going to listen to the FU record and are going to claim it sucked though and they are going to claim the new Toddryche album is great even if it sucks.


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COMMENT | Tissue box and gamblor
posted by : saskmetal
3/5/2013 7:57:43 PM
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Tissuebox,

And don't forget that within minutes of every new promotional "news" piece issued by Susan Tate, they all come on board and start hailing king Geoff and mocking the real Queensryche. Often the thumbs down army has 8 or so thumbsdowns across the full forum of comments that critique Tate, and they all come at roughly the same time. It's like Susan sends out a memo that they need to get on Blabbermouth and do their job, and they diligently go to work. Go twitter! It has happened so many times that it is obvious to us regular poster and readers. Of course there are a few supporters of the original Queensryche like Gino etc who dislike both new versions. That is to be expected, and welcomed. That is why Blabbermouth rules. It is called free speech.

Scatter, we are not just "haters". We were all die hard fans of Geoff Tate back when he was on top of his game. That is why we became so enraged in his disgracing and tarnishing of the band Queensryche over the last several years- mainly since Dedicated to Chaos and the Brazil incident. But we were already watching him bring the band to new lows since Operation 2.
He has continually lied in public over the last year, and continues to mock and insult our intelligence time and time again. He became the most disgraced and hated frontman in rock the last year, and this was a guy we glorified back in the day. All the dirty shit was dragged into the public eye courtesy of the dumb ass himself. He took the band to court, and the truth came out in the court declarations. We had suspected some dirty shit, but us fans had no clue him and Susan were up to such dirty business. It was disgusting.

Also to note, many aliases started popping up only in Tate related articles right after he got fired after the assault. These posters have never posted in regular metal articles like the rest of us over the last several years, so that is somewhat suspicious. Then of course certain information only Tate insiders would know would leak a bit here and there, such as new concert information, attendance figures at every show, details that even the most diligent and obsessive fans would not know. But whatever, Tate family knows we are onto them, and have become more careful in their posts the last few months. Such a secret organization they are!


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COMMENT | 'RE: Tissue box and gamblor'
posted by : bigsled
3/5/2013 9:25:07 PM
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do have a question for all of you trollryche lovers....

What kind of damage control can possibly be happening here when there are 40-60 thumbs up for jabs at the legend ,Tate ....
and 10 or less thumbs up for against ToddyTroll ??
Isn't most reading these posts Troll lovers anyway ?

What would be the point if everybody here hates Tate?


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Tissue box and gamblor'''
posted by : bigsled
3/5/2013 9:26:14 PM
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^^^for jabs against toddytroll


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COMMENT | 'RE: Tissue box and gamblor'
posted by : Scatter
3/6/2013 12:53:58 AM
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You're clearly not understanding me. Listen, I'll admit that the last few Queensryche albums weren't very good. However if you're at all honest then you have to admit that it wasn't all Tate's fault. He was 1 of 5 grown men in that band. If the other members thought that the albums were shit then they need to take responsibility for being part of an album that they thought was shit. Did the songs suck? Then why didn't they agree to perform on the albums? Why didn't they contribute more? And you can't tell me that one man, Tate, can make 4 other grown men do something that they don't want to do FOR AT LEAST THREE ALBUMS.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
3/5/2013 8:55:31 PM
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If you really are just fans, that just makes me feel sorry for you because that means you actually believe the stupid shit that you say, like "Cleopatra is a better record label than Century Media" or "Toodsryche booked a European tour. That just proves that nobody in America wants to see them."


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Braindeed
3/5/2013 9:06:21 PM
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judt wanted to point that Geoff Tate sucks, his solo record is pathetic and I laugh at him and his "QR" version, all hired guns while only 2 people did record the album


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COMMENT | Ez
posted by : Kraven MoreHead
3/5/2013 9:14:03 PM
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No Jasmin St. Claire = No Gang Bang


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COMMENT | Brilliant!!!
posted by : JackBLack
3/5/2013 9:15:44 PM
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Awesome Glen, you are a f**ing genius. I can imagine the Taint face, jajajajaja!


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COMMENT | Put them on Maury.
posted by : Another Generic Username 666
3/5/2013 9:31:56 PM
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"Geoff, you are NOT the Queensryche."

Fucking love it. Glen, you are THE man.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : RiotAct666
3/5/2013 9:45:34 PM
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Kudos to Drover on that move. He just gave Taint an ultimate FU!!!!!
Gotta love it!


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COMMENT | That's Right
posted by : RedZombie
3/5/2013 10:12:40 PM
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the 'REAL and GREATEST' Queensryche. Take that one to heart.


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COMMENT | Ticket Price...
posted by : Devil's Chord
3/5/2013 11:49:03 PM
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I'm rather impressed by the $42.50 tciket price. It's higher than I'd expect. Makes me think there is some good demand for this real Queensryche!


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COMMENT | OT but I wonder
posted by : Destined to Destroy
3/6/2013 1:02:14 AM
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if DeGarmo isn't sitting there laughing and saying "I saw all this shit coming a million miles away".

Inevitably Tate will lose in court - it's a numbers game. If he does win on some technicality it will be appealed and he'll still lose but the brand will be pretty much toast after 2 plus years of legal battles.

Tate's stated repeatedly that he doesn't like metal and isn't into it - and it shows. This is all just him struggling to hold on to power and fame and not realizing that like his alcoholism it's all an addiction. Dude's only chance at a comeback will be to get some humility and go on Celebrity Rehab.



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COMMENT | RE: Scatter...
posted by : Cerebral Eulogy
3/6/2013 1:19:31 AM
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Tate has the real Megadeth guitarist?

I don't think Dave Mustaine would go anywhere near the Clownsryche trainwreck.


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COMMENT | All the non believers.....
posted by : Typhoon71
3/6/2013 1:30:11 AM
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Will be changing their tune when they hear Todd and the new album....SICK!!!
Eventually they will all jump back on the real QR train and forget who Tate even is anymore...But also they will talk shit here on these boards but them buy meet and greets and be nice to Wilton and the boys to their face...It's kinda weird really....


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COMMENT | Also....
posted by : Typhoon71
3/6/2013 1:35:41 AM
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How is Glen a former guitarist when he never even rehearsed or played one note with the Tate fools??


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COMMENT | Ouchio!
posted by : Maidenangel
3/6/2013 2:14:01 AM
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That's gotta burn Geoffy! I think Glen Drover was being diplomatic and trying to stay away from any drama, in that statement he made about leaving Geoff's band in November. But to me, it is clear that he thought that either the new "Queensryche" music from Geoff's band was rubbish, or he found that Geoff was too difficult to work with. Either way, something must have happened to make him jump ship so soon after joining up.

This is a real slap in the face for Geoff, and his version of "Queensryche". And I wouldn't argue with Glen, I think he knows the score! xD If Chris DeGarmo can't/won't come back, the real QR could do a lot worse than getting Glen on board full time. I know that's a bit mean to Parker, but Glen is a great guitarist, and would be an asset! Either way, I'm totally looking forward to the new album from the real Queensryche. :)


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COMMENT | #
posted by : NoneBuriedDeeper
3/6/2013 3:40:43 AM
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I guess he did the math and figured a job at Burger King would pay better than Geoff Tate's Ryche


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COMMENT | #
posted by : wolfking
3/6/2013 4:26:18 AM
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Scatter and the Fire guy need to shut the fuck up and fuck off. No one cares about the situation, I've been a Drover fan since House of God. I was still a fan of his when he decided to join Tate, and I'm still a fan now.

Read between the fucking lines and look at the guys actions, that's all that matters. It's obvious that GT isn't the guy you think he is, Drover's actions say it all, and back up Scott, Michael, and Eddie 100%. And for Drover to tweet this, means he really fucking hates GT.

Get with it guys, Queensryche is one of my top bands of all time and I loved Geoff and his work growing up. But saying that, you can't really defend him here.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Maidenangel
3/6/2013 5:50:35 AM
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House Of God is an amazing album! Glen plays some great solos on that one to compliment Andy La Roque's always awesome lead work. :)


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COMMENT | This sucks...
posted by : tartareandesire
3/6/2013 6:28:33 AM
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Queensrÿche is nothing without Geoff Tate and Tate is nothing without his old band members. To me the band is over since long no matter who wins the court case...


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COMMENT | UlverShuggah
posted by : Evil_Twin
3/6/2013 6:41:18 AM
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Don't be putting down Chris Poland. The things you are talking about happened over 25 years ago! He cleaned up his life. Just because he played a solo on Geoff Tate's shitfest doesn't make him a bad person. Same for Dave Meniketti. Both great people, great guitarists. They are not responsible for Geoff Tate's black heart and empty soul.


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COMMENT | Waiting for the Tate family to respond to this one
posted by : Get up and make it work
3/6/2013 7:05:22 AM
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Wow, this had to hurt.

Tater Salad and his album of "special guest guitarists" will never recover from this move. Ha ha ha !!


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COMMENT | Some Points
posted by : Firewind
3/6/2013 7:53:04 AM
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Vocal melodies (which surely Tate wrote some or a lot of) still count as "songwriting" in a song..I doubt he wrote "only lyrics"..

That said, the Tate side always says that the other guys didn't write much, when Wilton wrote about 45 percent of the riffs on the first 3-4 albums. He even got full credit for Warning? (the song) The Tate defenders are more full of shit than the Latorre side (of course)..

The issue with "FU" (I cant believe thats the title lol) is that the music and riffss are likely to suck, and no amount of guest stars or other polish can change that. Mindcrime II was decent at best, despite having Pamela Moore and Ronnie James Dio, it was still a mediocre half assed attempt at former glory. And the half ass grungey "heavy" likely crappy nu metal derived riffs on FU aren't going to be much better, despite the likes of Poland, etc on it. Jason Slater will probably make a very late 90's sounding album, bereft of originality and the actual intricate guitar play that made the team Degarmo/Wilton so awesome (example: them playing two different parts of a chord, parallel harmonies, etc)..not to mention the SONGWRITING which is far more important to Ryche fans than how HEAVY it is (heavy remember, doesn't neccesarily = Metal or good for that matter..)

Now the Latorre Ryche shows a lot more promise, because Latorre is a good songwriter on his solo material (I believe he has two solo albums where he plays ALL the instruments) and he seems in touch with underground prog and power metal (think Progpower USA type stuff) which gives him far more potential as far as giving the other guys the impetus to make THEIR BEST ALBUM SINCE 1994! That's right, along with Jim Barton, I don't think theres any way that the new Toddryche won't be at least halfway decent compared to Baldryche (now Hatryche because of that pathetic new band photo with hats! Like theyre now too insecure lol)
Now the Toddryche album, don't take this as a bash, but I don't know if it will surpass a second tier band like Pagan's Mind or Kamelot (both great bands, but they're not at the level of something like old Ryche, Fates Warning or Dream Theater as far as stature of influence, etc), but even if they can accomplish something like that, they're already forgiven for past sins, and the pathetic, chugga chugga riffs (I doubt Kelly Gray knows what a suspended chord is, I liked the old Myth demos but with Queensryche his output and performances have been pathetic) that Slater and co come up with will have NOTHING on the progressive guitar interplay of Wilton and Lundgren. There's no denying that the compositional strength of the team of Latorre/Wilton and Rockenfield (who had a lot more output on Promised Land, their last good album) compared to Slater/Tate and whoever the fuck (who knows, remember those court documents, we don't even know who plays on some of those albums and these guys come out of the woodwork on message boards and make claims, its crazy, good riddance to Geoff Tate as much as it saddens me because he was one of the best WAS being the key word) writes or performs on "FU".

Excited about the new Queensryche (with Latorre) and first day buyer,

Mattowarrior


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COMMENT | Scatter:
posted by : nine large
3/6/2013 12:37:50 PM
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"You're clearly not understanding me. Listen, I'll admit that the last few Queensryche albums weren't very good. However if you're at all honest then you have to admit that it wasn't all Tate's fault. He was 1 of 5 grown men in that band. If the other members thought that the albums were shit then they need to take responsibility for being part of an album that they thought was shit. Did the songs suck? Then why didn't they agree to perform on the albums? Why didn't they contribute more? And you can't tell me that one man, Tate, can make 4 other grown men do something that they don't want to do FOR AT LEAST THREE ALBUMS."

Have you ever been in a band? Hell, have you ever been married? It's far too easy to submit to one persons' opinion when your career is at stake. They all have families, bills, mortgages, etc. Who said the other band members didn't try to contribute. Have you ever heard some of the heated arguments in a recording studio? Maybe their material was refused time and again. That doesn't mean the material wasn't good, it means that it was refused. And as far as performing on said albums, it's come to light that Rockenfield did NOT perform on all of the recent releases. Your argument is invalid.

Why would they all put up with such BS? Because it's better than going solo. Having a successful band is like winning the lottery. It's even more rare when a band member has a successful solo career. Wilton took his unhappiness to side projects, with little success. Degarmo tried music after QR with little impact. Hell, Tate put out solo records WITH LITTLE SUCCESS. So they all stayed with their job that they were all dissatisfied with because nothing better came along. C'mon, being a miserable rock star is probably better than most other jobs out there. I know plenty of miserable people that aren't famous.

And to address your question of why did they sit idly by all of these years? The same reason Judas Priest did nothing for 6 years. They could not find a functional alternative. But once they did, they made the move knowing full well that the parts would not be as successful as the whole. Again, it sure beats mowing lawns.
Many people stay in dysfunctional relationships far too long. But when something better comes along, the smart ones take it.

I hope the helps clear up why 5 grown men would put up with an awful situation year after year.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Scatter:'
posted by : Sickboy666
3/8/2013 2:55:38 AM
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Right on.


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COMMENT | ATTN: Scatter, Mister Mishty, Gino C. and FireReaverX
posted by : Cerebral Eulogy
3/6/2013 2:32:30 PM
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4/5's of the band left Tate
Roadies left Tate
Tour manager left Tate
Pamela Moore refuses to play w/ Tate
The Empires are not with Tate
Jimbo Barton comes back to produce a QR album
The band signs with a better record company
Drover is going to play a show with the REAL QR in Toronto

The list keeps growing and Tate hasn't gained one point since the split....all you TROLLS need to forfeit before this gets REAL embarassing...so far Tate is getting his ass kicked where it counts!!!


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COMMENT | #
posted by : alicecooperfreak
3/6/2013 6:29:01 PM
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To be frank I think Drover knew something was in the wind as towards the writing process for the next album. Noticed the hired hands performing the music and had a major change of heart.

Who would blame him for walking away?


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : smoothknight
3/7/2013 10:45:52 AM
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That was my observation as well. Tate has 10 songs on his new album, and 8 guest musicians. What exactly has he left to his own band to do? I mean his whole statement was ""I try to surround myself with the best players available and feel our longtime fans deserve nothing less,"so what this basically says is that he doesnt think his present band is good enough without the help of the guest musicians. And if I was one of those band members I'd flat out tell him "FU".


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