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SLAYER: We Do Not Agree With DAVE LOMBARDO's Substance Or Timeline Of Events - Feb. 21, 2013
SLAYER has released the following statement to BLABBERMOUTH.NET regarding the band's decision to replace drummer Dave Lombardo for the upcoming Australian tour:

"SLAYER confirms that Jon Dette will drum for the band on its Australian tour that starts this Saturday, February 23 in Brisbane. As regards Dave Lombardo's Facebook post, SLAYER does not agree with Mr. Lombardo's substance or the timeline of the events, except to acknowledge that Mr. Lombardo came to the band less than a week before their scheduled departure for Australia to present an entirely new set of terms for his engagement that were contrary to those that had been previously agreed upon. The band was unable to reach an agreement on these new demands in the short amount of time available prior to leaving for Australia. There is more to the account than what Mr. Lombardo has offered, but out of respect to him, SLAYER will not be commenting further. SLAYER is grateful to its Australian fans for their understanding of this unfortunate last-minute change, and very much looks forward to seeing them at these shows."

Lombardo released a statement last night indicating that he was being replaced for SLAYER's Australian dates after he requested access to detailed information and the necessary backup documents regarding how the band's tour income was being distributed. According to the drummer, 90% of SLAYER's tour revenue is "being deducted as expenses, including the professional fees paid to management, costing the band millions of dollars and leaving 10% or less to split amongst the four of us."

Shortly into the tour for SLAYER's 1986 album "Reign In Blood", Lombardo left the group, citing financial concerns. Tony Scaglione of WHIPLASH was recruited to replace Lombardo; however, this lineup was short-lived, as Lombardo returned in 1987. In 1992, Lombardo left the group again due to friction with the other band members, particularly King. Paul Bostaph of FORBIDDEN took over as the band's drummer for 1994's "Divine Intervention" and 1996's "Undisputed Attitude", the latter being an LP of cover tunes. Following the recording of "Undisputed Attitude", Jon Dette replaced Bostaph, who left to concentrate on other projects. Dette was fired a year later and Bostaph returned to the fold. In 2001, Bostaph left SLAYER for good and was replaced by a returning Lombardo. Although this reunion was initally announced as temporary, Lombardo has remained with the band ever since.

SLAYER has spent the past two years touring without guitarist Jeff Hanneman, who is still recovering from necrotising fasciitis, a flesh-eating disease, which he is believed to have gotten from a spider bite. Hanneman is being temporarily replaced on the road by EXODUS guitarist Gary Holt.

Prior to joining SLAYER, Dette appeared on TESTAMENT's "Live At The Fillmore" album, which came out in 1995.

Dette is currently playing with ANTHRAX as a temporary replacement for the band's longtime drummer Charlie Benante, who "is dealing with personal issues right now and can't leave" the U.S., according to ANTHRAX guitarist Scott Ian.

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COMMENT | #
posted by : Michael Bolton
2/21/2013 4:59:23 PM
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No Jeff, no Dave... man this shit sucks :\



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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : kreosplus
2/21/2013 5:23:50 PM
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I think it's that fucking bald troglodite who's responsible for all the mess...


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : the_beg
2/21/2013 5:28:24 PM
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"fucking bald troglodite" I lol'd. :D


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : Glenlivet18
2/21/2013 7:40:13 PM
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....tee! hee!


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : fanny you should say that
2/21/2013 9:30:59 PM
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Mate, we've got no Charlie Benante who has "personal issues".

Kevin Talley had a motorbike accident so he's not coming.

And now Lombardo has pulled out.

3 great drummers, all playing Soundwave. And none of the cunts are coming to Oz. Worst. Soundwave. Ever.

But it's all ok, because Lars, the worst metal drummer on this tour, is still coming.

/sarcasm


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COMMENT | FUCK OFF...
posted by : 1GRITVOX
2/21/2013 5:00:51 PM
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........ AND FUCK OFF SOME MORE...


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COMMENT | "We"
posted by : Abomination1349
2/21/2013 5:01:24 PM
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"We" do not agree? Don't you mean "I," Kerry???


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COMMENT | We...
posted by : 1GRITVOX
2/21/2013 5:01:26 PM
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...as in Kerry King?


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Traumor
2/21/2013 5:02:59 PM
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Who is "Slayer"? This is all obviously lawyer speak.


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COMMENT | Yeah...
posted by : 1GRITVOX
2/21/2013 5:04:24 PM
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...I'm done with this band...


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COMMENT | Whatever
posted by : Battle_Magic
2/21/2013 5:04:59 PM
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Sounds like the typical guff from their PR men.

Kerry is just upset his python ate all his donuts.

No Hanneman and now no Lombardo?!

This is worse than KISS. Kerry Queen should just give it up, stop disgracing the name of Slayer with this soap opera nonsense and form a band comprising only total egotistical dickheads. They can have:

Kerry & Scott Ian: Guitars
Geoffrey Tate: Vocals
Mike Portnoy: Drums
David Vincent: Bass

featuring guest appearances by Axl Rose, Dave Mustaine, Vivian Campbell and Gene Simmons.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Whatever'
posted by : NoneBuriedDeeper
2/21/2013 5:57:58 PM
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It not worse than KISS. Slayer isn't making anyone dress up like Jeff and Dave. They are just fighting over money.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Whatever'''
posted by : ThayerIsGod
2/21/2013 7:34:01 PM
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Stop whining about the makeup. What are you 6 years old still? Get over it -- it's rock and roll for Pete's sake.

This is WAY worse than KISS because KISS has two PERMANENT members who replaced the two original members who don't want to be there.

Slayer has two TEMPORARY members. It's literally half a band and that just sucks.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: Whatever'''''''
posted by : PeaceLoveandHardLiquor
2/21/2013 8:56:53 PM
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You're right. Slayer has finally become gayer than Kiss. The universe is about to shit on itself.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Whatever'
posted by : Megamoca coffee
2/21/2013 6:46:15 PM
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You forgot Danzig


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COMMENT | Extreme metal for 25 years...
posted by : SnarfSnarf
2/21/2013 5:06:01 PM
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Now statements by lawyers and yes men and spokesmen. Hope they play to empty fields down under....


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COMMENT | 'RE: Extreme metal for 25 years...'
posted by : 1GRITVOX
2/21/2013 5:08:16 PM
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Exactly... Unbelievable...


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COMMENT | 'Terms for his engagement'?
posted by : Ironlung
2/21/2013 5:07:27 PM
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Yeah this was clearly written by lawyers. And I'd say he wasn't totally welcomed back as a member if that is the term to describe his return.

Kerry clearly is the one running the show...


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posted by : withnoregret
2/21/2013 5:09:04 PM
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Kerry....you fucked up!


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : inhalien
2/22/2013 10:25:49 AM
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Again,and again.


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COMMENT | Is this the third time Lombardo is out of the band
posted by : HOD
2/21/2013 5:10:05 PM
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because of money? I think he quit himself the first two times.


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COMMENT | hmm
posted by : jaysfs
2/21/2013 5:10:16 PM
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i hope jeff and dave start there own version of slayer,la guns did it!


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COMMENT | 'RE: hmm'
posted by : epac
2/21/2013 6:05:18 PM
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LA Guns, Great White, Saxon, Ratt, Queensryche...why not add Slayer to the list?


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posted by : DaimonosII
2/21/2013 5:11:11 PM
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Dave wasn't getting his fair cut of the Slayer candy hearts or Slayer throw rug sales. Bullshit!

Kerry can fuck right off.


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COMMENT | No Ward. No Sabbath.
posted by : CrazyIslander
2/21/2013 5:12:30 PM
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No Lombardo. No Slayer.


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COMMENT | 'RE: No Ward. No Sabbath.'
posted by : ThayerIsGod
2/21/2013 7:28:34 PM
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Naa. I agree with the anger behind the sentiment, but it's not they haven't been without and made good music without Lombardo.

No Araya = No Slayer. Everything else is debatable.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: No Ward. No Sabbath.'''
posted by : jrud311
2/21/2013 10:05:27 PM
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hmmm...... I believe Slayer's only relevant stuff had Lombardo behind the kit.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: No Ward. No Sabbath.'''''''
posted by : ThayerIsGod
2/22/2013 2:01:38 AM
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I believe you are wrong.


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COMMENT | IT'S SIMPLE KERRY:
posted by : Battle_Magic
2/21/2013 5:12:45 PM
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NO PETER CRISS = NO SLAYER


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COMMENT | 'RE: IT''S SIMPLE KERRY:'
posted by : Hellbillylarry
2/21/2013 7:04:54 PM
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NO MAGNUS=NO SLAYER.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: IT''''S SIMPLE KERRY:'''
posted by : fanny you should say that
2/21/2013 9:26:54 PM
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No big tits = no Maria Brink


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COMMENT | i believe at this point...
posted by : Hellvis1369
2/21/2013 5:14:24 PM
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we all know who 'slayer' and 'the band' is....sad and pathetic


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COMMENT | !!!
posted by : Doros78
2/21/2013 5:16:46 PM
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hope they can end this on good terms, but at least we will always have the great music they made together


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COMMENT | I'll always support Dave Lombardo
posted by : kingnothing23
2/21/2013 5:19:54 PM
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Specially against a douchebag like Kerry. Fuck King. He's a mediocre guitar player, a fake tough guy and now on top he wants to scam people?



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COMMENT | When Slayer fans turn on you ,you're fucked....
posted by : Green Machinist
2/21/2013 5:21:16 PM
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....and they are about to turn on Slayer itself. Kinda reminds me of when Metallica did the Black album, only Slayer never had another audience than (a lot of !)"Slayer Fans".

I just visualized soccer moms driving around singing Die By The Sword, the way they did to Enter Sandman . Yeah, never happened. Like I said, once the hardcore fans leave, they're fucked.


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COMMENT | lolwtf
posted by : hurricane hugo
2/21/2013 5:21:23 PM
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like Kerry Kunt can even spell or pronounce half of that lawyerspeak.

plur


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posted by : theredpill
2/21/2013 5:23:37 PM
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Fans: We DO NOT agree with Kerry King's bullshit!


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posted by : YodaAct666
2/21/2013 5:23:49 PM
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HEY GUYS CAN YOU READ?

"Lombardo released a statement last night indicating that he was being replaced for SLAYER's Australian dates"

Key words, Australian dates. Who said he's out of the band???


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COMMENT | 'RE: #You think this can be resolved by...'
posted by : SnarfSnarf
2/22/2013 1:37:50 AM
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Sitting round the campfire and sing Kumbayah, My Dark Lord after the Oz tour? This has Bill Ward written all over it, Bill maybe can't hack playing 90 mins anymore, but you're talking about the best drummer ever here.....


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
2/22/2013 11:43:30 AM
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So you think when they get back to the States, some magic Leprechaun is gonna sprinkle some pixie dust and everything will be fine?


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COMMENT | Kerry should give Tom Araya the axe too...
posted by : Black waterPark
2/21/2013 5:25:13 PM
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He's totally replaceable too, right Kerry? You could always get one of your buddies from Sum 41 to fill in right?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Fucking fat piece of shit ruined Slayer.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Kerry should give Tom Araya the axe too...'
posted by : hurricane hugo
2/21/2013 5:35:00 PM
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well, I'm sure Kerry can talk Joey DeMaio into covering the bass chores.

plur


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COMMENT | Fucking treachery!
posted by : Leonard Rockstein
2/21/2013 5:25:16 PM
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Will be waiting for the upcoming ''Tom Araya's fronted Slayer'' featuring Tom Araya, Dave Lombardo and Jeff Hanneman.

Kerry can keep this raped version and eat a bag of dicks with his suits and ties men. Invite that jewish midget Scott Ian too and his mickey mouse loving pussy whipped buttbuddy Benante. Because they'll do everything if there's money involved.


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posted by : scruffman
2/21/2013 5:28:21 PM
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didn't you guys know slayer is a hired musician band...
everyone can be replaced...
it's a label made band, four ugly guys put together to make noise!


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COMMENT | The SLAYER Kerry King would like to see...
posted by : Black waterPark
2/21/2013 5:28:32 PM
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Douche From Sum 41 - Vocals & Bass
Kerry King (with retarded 90s tribal tattoos) - Guitar
Kerry King Cardboard Cutout - Guitar
Mike Portnoy - Drums


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posted by : theblindingape
2/21/2013 5:28:37 PM
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The statements made by "Slayer" and "the band" are not those of the members, but their management.

They're doing damage control (in other words, protecting their paychecks and the band's brand) to ensure any fans planning to attend the Australian tour aren't swayed from that decision based on Dave's "unofficial" remarks.

Much like when "Metallica" asked the US military to stop using their music to torture POWs...

Personally, it's sad to see so many bands opting to tour like this, with replacement members. If I was an Australian fan who's worshiped Slayer my whole life and my first chance to see them I'm only seeing half the fucking band I'd be super pissed!!


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COMMENT | Gullible
posted by : Skanna
2/21/2013 5:29:14 PM
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None of you know the details of this disagreement, but you've all made up your minds. Typical.

In the simplistic world of blabbermouth, Kerry King is one of the bad guys, so you demonize him and believe everything Lombardo says. None of you is privy to any details about touring costs, finance, and past business deals involving Slayer. But you've made up your minds.

I used to respect metal fans, but most people are this site are nothing more than a bunch of gossiping housewives.

The shows in Australia were booked and Dave ''came to the band less than a week before their scheduled departure for Australia to present an entirely new set of terms for his engagement that were contrary to those that had been previously agreed upon. The band was unable to reach an agreement on these new demands in the short amount of time available prior to leaving for Australia. There is more to the account than what Mr. Lombardo has offered, but out of respect to him, SLAYER will not be commenting further.''


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COMMENT | 'RE: Gullible'
posted by : HOD
2/21/2013 5:39:15 PM
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Most people are sheeps


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COMMENT | 'RE: Gullible'
posted by : Sickboy666
2/21/2013 5:52:41 PM
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Just look at the guy, he demonizes himself.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Gullible'
posted by : SweetCheetah
2/21/2013 5:55:35 PM
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I read it on the internet, so I know it's true.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Gullible'
posted by : Big Ol' Titties
2/21/2013 6:42:49 PM
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Thanks Kerry


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COMMENT | 'RE: Gullible'
posted by : juanneman
2/22/2013 2:32:16 AM
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Of course none of us (not even you) know the details of the agreement, BUT there was a BREACH of it according to him: `I had toured all over the world in 2012, but yet had not been paid (except a small advance) or provided a proper accounting for a full year's sweat and blood.? If you are not paid for a full year you must wonder AT LEAST what is going on. That is what Dave did. Maybe he did it a bit too late (1 week before leaving), but it is FAIR at least to see what happened. If you, I or anyone were in his place I bet we would do the same.


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COMMENT | Did Jeff lose a leg?
posted by : mranthrope
2/21/2013 5:35:06 PM
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WTF is up with that picture maybe I missed something or that spider bite took it.


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COMMENT | yep, skanna,
posted by : hetfield's orange juice
2/21/2013 5:36:04 PM
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gossiping housewives is also what comes to my mind.

this is like a bunch of people chattering about rihanna being pregnant or not. different names = same breed. blablablablabla

there is no way any official or press release on a delicate matter speaks the full truth.
there's in no black and white in life, and no black and white in this business.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : syko kyd
2/21/2013 5:36:31 PM
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Hopefully when they come back from Australia they can get all this stuff with Dave sorted out.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : juanneman
2/22/2013 2:33:44 AM
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I hope too, otherwise this band will be dead, sad as it sounds.


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COMMENT | Bullshit
posted by : Battle_Magic
2/21/2013 5:37:39 PM
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Cherry DunKing donut didn't even write this himself. He got his lawyers to put out this crap. Whoah KY-Jelly King, how slaytanic of you! Wanker!


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posted by : ONLINE FORUMS!!!!!
2/21/2013 5:38:15 PM
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WELP! They had a good run.


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COMMENT | At least it is not Singapore Mustaine
posted by : obi wan
2/21/2013 5:39:04 PM
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Spouting a bunch of anti-everything comments.


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COMMENT | 90% goes to the business managers
posted by : Loud'nHeavy
2/21/2013 5:40:41 PM
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10% to be split bewteen four musicians? This is why the music business stinks and so many bands cannot survive. Factor in ILLEGAL downloading from little twerps who dont want to buy music and support the artists; and these greedy managers who live off the hard work of the musicians, its no wonder guys like Hannemann and Lombardo just say Ive had enough


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COMMENT | 'RE: 90% goes to the business managers'
posted by : NoneBuriedDeeper
2/21/2013 10:59:19 PM
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If you can't keep more than 10% you need new managers.


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COMMENT | 'RE: 90% goes to the business managers'
posted by : scarysong14
2/22/2013 12:34:09 PM
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The statement was release by Slayer (meaning the business)

Slayer is owned by the Management company.
This happened a long time ago.

They are just paid muscians at this point.

Only way management can deduct all of that as expensise.

Sorry I can't spell, but I have worked for a band that was owned by the management team.
Slayer was sold to them a long time ago I am guessing, because of the past issues and replacements over money.


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COMMENT | Wow
posted by : Sinned
2/21/2013 5:41:27 PM
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There's much more to this story, and more importantly it's none of our friggin' business. Let them sort out their shit. I can't believe how fast everyone has turned on Kerry.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Wow'
posted by : el borracho
2/21/2013 6:15:04 PM
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People have turned on him because he's always been such a complete ass and a wannabe tough guy douchebag. He makes himself out to be some badass who doesnt give a fuck and slags bands left and right as if though theyll always be beneath Slayer. All Slayer has done in the last 18 years is put out a bunch of crap and he's the one who acts like its HIS band. So the way Lombardo spells it out doesnt sound far fetched at all. Fuck Kerry King.


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posted by : theredpill
2/21/2013 5:43:26 PM
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No Bobby Blitz = No Overkill

Get well soon Bobby!


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COMMENT | sharon effect
posted by : JustNotYourKind
2/21/2013 5:44:14 PM
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metal these days is getting sickening. The older bands and all the squabbling over money/managers bullshit and the fuckin' gay merchandise ( Slayer christmas sweaters,blankets,shoe etc.) ..and NOW these newer bands and the shameless trend of begging/ PANHANDLING for 'donations' to fund albums and tours. Fuckoff ! I wonder when frugal Scott Ian Rosenfeld will set up an ANTHRAX 'RELIEF FUND' for himself??


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COMMENT | FUCK KERRY KING.
posted by : dblbass
2/21/2013 5:47:45 PM
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Sugar coat that shit buddy. Its no secret what kind of a douche Kerry is. Hels taken over the fuckin' band. NO LOMBARDO - NO SLAYER. Hanneman, Tom and Dave need to go on without HIM. And fuck Kerry.


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COMMENT | Slayer????
posted by : wolfgangr
2/21/2013 5:54:07 PM
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They were a poser band back in the day, just a bigger one now.


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posted by : NoneBuriedDeeper
2/21/2013 5:56:40 PM
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They sure agreed to fire him instead of working it out though!!


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COMMENT | #
posted by : exus
2/21/2013 5:58:07 PM
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Half-Slayer


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COMMENT | #
posted by : sonic the girl
2/21/2013 5:59:06 PM
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really, I just don't care about any of this, I would not buy a ticket to Slayer anyways. I did see Slayer on Mayhem tour, but I did not go just to see them. If Slayer played alone I would not go see them regardless of who was in the band. They are a nostalgia act, and not a very good one at that. TOTALLY BORING.

I THINK GREED RUINS THINGS.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Megamoca coffee
2/21/2013 7:04:32 PM
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You can't get a true slayer show unless you see them in a club or theatre. It's just not the same in a big venue with mixed in fans.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : NoneBuriedDeeper
2/21/2013 5:59:45 PM
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Once the summer festivals end they will be back to playing in 800 seat clubs again.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #And have...'
posted by : SnarfSnarf
2/22/2013 1:41:16 AM
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"Puppet Show" billed above them.....


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COMMENT | They didn't even fire him.
posted by : HOD
2/21/2013 5:59:50 PM
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People are so simple. They need heroes and bad guys. This guy is awesome, this guy is the worst piece of shit in the world, I hope he dies. No middle ground, no thinking for themselves. Not even waiting to hear facts. Lots of people on here are really young, I guess that plays into it.


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posted by : negativetypeo
2/21/2013 6:00:57 PM
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It's like, for people like myself who aren't fans of Kerry in the first place, it's almost as if he's TRYING to get the people who like him to hate him.

This band is going to shit quickly, I wonder what Tom thinks of it all.


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COMMENT | sounds a bit like........
posted by : dejavu
2/21/2013 6:00:58 PM
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Joe "Mama" Besser (1982) Claimed he "couldn't take this 4/4 shit"; according to an MTV interview in November 1991, he disappeared along with the equipment during their Japanese tour. He is either dead or playing jazz.


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posted by : Aces_High99
2/21/2013 6:03:38 PM
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Lawyer-speak PR bullshit.

Kerry...you've always liked pretending you were some type of badass pro wrestler who didn't give a shit about anything...

...now half your band has up and left because they can't stand you. How do ya feel now?


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COMMENT | Where's Tom in all this?
posted by : jc013
2/21/2013 6:08:42 PM
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Where is Tom in all this?Why is he not saying anything?I hope he is not part of Kerry's scheme too ripoff band members too.I can see why Jeff does not want too comeback.I,m just glad the best of days of Slayer are behind them and glad that Steve and Jeff wee part of it.Let's be honest,after south of heaven.It has been all downhill from their.Fans only go to hear then play the old shit and not the new.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Where''s Tom in all this?'
posted by : Dubya90
2/21/2013 6:49:07 PM
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Who the fuck is Steve?


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posted by : MarlaHooch
2/21/2013 6:08:58 PM
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Aw come on guys, there's two sides to every story. Maybe the Tattooed Pork Dumpling is in the right here and we just don't know the whole story yet...

...Just kidding :-D


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posted by : The_Anti_Kriist666
2/21/2013 6:09:16 PM
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I like how everybody is making such a big deal about this, this isn't the first time this type of thing happened, its the music industry this type of thing happens all the time does it suck? hell yeah it does but no one made that big of a deal when other bands fired members from their bands so why is this so different , is it because its Slayer if thats the case that is a dumb reason to a big ass deal about this


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posted by : MarlaHooch
2/21/2013 6:10:38 PM
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Kids, this is what we call a "Damage Control Fail".


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posted by : Adveser
2/21/2013 6:12:55 PM
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Nobody wants to acknowledge that the band is getting fucking ripped off by their management and especially by Rick Rubin, who has ripped everyone off. When a member of the band questions this, they get sent home? That means someone is stealing and writing it up in a contract so they can't be prosecuted. Bashing Kerry is not helpful unless he is in on it and is named an agent or has some other fake title where he benefits.

Slayer needs to find a new record deal, new management and a whole new staff of money men unless they want to stay broke.

Seriously, if questioning the accounting of the band earns you a suspension, YOU ARE GETTING FUCKED OVER. Nowhere does it say Dave asked for more money, he just wanted a detailed breakdown of where it is going and the "band" (as a corporation) refused and replaced him with someone that will likely remain silent on the matter.

RED FUCKING FLAGS.


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posted by : Dubya90
2/21/2013 6:52:33 PM
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I couldn't have said it better. This is also one of the few times that "red flags" actually show.


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posted by : GhostofPerdition
2/21/2013 7:32:09 PM
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"Mr. Lombardo came to the band less than a week before their scheduled departure for Australia to present an entirely new set of terms for his engagement that were contrary to those that had been previously agreed upon."

That sounds very much like him asking for more money.


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posted by : syko kyd
2/21/2013 9:11:46 PM
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Yeah Rick Rubin is known to rip off bands, just ask Glenn Danzig. He fuckin sold millions of albums from Danzig 1 to 4 and then realised he was broke.


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posted by : crack_nation
2/21/2013 9:55:16 PM
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Let me drop a quick knowledge bomb on you. This is about commissions from touring. Rick Rubin only had anything to do with recorded music, and beyond getting an executive producer credit for being an absentee father - he hasn't had anything to do with Slayer in ages.


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COMMENT | SLAYER: RIP
posted by : saskmetal
2/21/2013 6:28:26 PM
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good point. If just asking some question regarding the money you have made over the last year earns you a "suspension" and they try to move on without you live, then there if FOR SURE crooked shit going on between King and management. They were swindling as much money as they can, and Lombardo called them on it. The fact that they would present him with a gag order or not get paid says it all. Fucking crooked motherfucker Kerry. I also hope Tom isn't in on it. He seems like a cool honest dude and not that type.

Tom, please leave the carcass of Slayer, hook up with Jeff and Dave and move on, even if you have to rename the band to Slatanic, Wehrmacht, or something. That would me more "slayer" than being with Kerry minus Dave and Jeff. Jeff wrote the best riffs and songs in general, and Dave is the reason Slayer rules live. Period.

Slayer RIP.


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COMMENT | Maybe he's just celebrating the 28th anniversary of his last salary negotiating
posted by : HOD
2/21/2013 6:28:43 PM
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"During Slayer's 1986 "Reign in Pain" tour to promote the album Reign in Blood, Lombardo left the band stating "I wasn't making any money. I figured if we were gonna be doing this professionally, on a major label, I wanted my rent and utilities paid.""

Nice to pull these stunts during tours, that way you give yourself leverage.


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posted by : TheEagle
2/21/2013 6:31:55 PM
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RIP Slayer 1981 - 2013


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posted by : ThayerIsGod
2/21/2013 7:24:47 PM
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Sure this blows, but this isn't exactly the band's first run without Lombardo.


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posted by : Redeemer26
2/21/2013 6:39:50 PM
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We should be playing a Slayer version of "Taps" right now....


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COMMENT | No Jimi Hendrix = No Jimi Hendrix Experience
posted by : seasonings in the abyss
2/21/2013 6:40:53 PM
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I just wanted to say that I never thought anyone could fill Dave Lombardo's shoes the first time he left, but Paul Bostaph did a great job with Slayer. Still, Dave Lombardo = greatest drummer of thrash metal.


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posted by : Megamoca coffee
2/21/2013 6:41:12 PM
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What has happend to one of the greatest metal bands ever? If it's going to be a mess, call it a day and end on a semi-high note.


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posted by : ShadowOfTheWave
2/21/2013 6:42:13 PM
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LOL "out of respect for him, we will not be commenting further"="we're full of shit, and won't bother lying. nothing to see here, move along".


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posted by : saskmetal
2/21/2013 6:43:22 PM
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Who'd have thought 2013 would be the year of the falling apart of Anthrax and Slayer?

The fact that Scott Ian thinks he can tour the world without Charlie and a proper permanent replacement for Rob shows money is everything. Band unity and loyalty means nothing.

The fact that Kerry King thinks he IS slayer and can tour without Jeff or Dave shows money is everything. Another band in disintegration mode due to greed.

Can you imagine Maiden going out touring without Dave Murray and Nicko? Or AC/DC without Malcolm and Phil Rudd? Or Metallica without Kirk and Lars? Running on 50 percent? Never, and that is why those bands are successful. They don't fuck permanent band members over for a quick buck.


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posted by : RiotAct666
2/21/2013 6:57:11 PM
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"Who'd have thought 2013 would be the year of the falling apart of Anthrax and Slayer?" Anthrax been falling apart way before 2013. Try their entire career as a band... You can thank Scott & Charlie.


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posted by : Megamoca coffee
2/21/2013 6:44:29 PM
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SLLLL

Since it's on'y 1/2 of slayer, a half Slayer scream is all i'm giving.


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posted by : Zambo
2/21/2013 6:55:22 PM
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To criticise Lombardo's timing, you can't always predict when you think you're getting ripped off. So it happened right before a tour. When else is he supposed to find out he's being ripper off? 20 years after the fact? So he questioned them, then was thrown off the tour. Did he refuse to go on without changes? Even if he did. if he signed a contract on false pretenses, does he not have a right to say something?


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posted by : usedillusion93
2/21/2013 6:55:37 PM
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Slayer? Do you mean Kerry King? Glad I got to see them on the Megadeth/Slayer - Rust in Peace/Seasons in the Abyss tour in 2010. It'll probably be the last time I see the original lineup.


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COMMENT | 50% less Slayer
posted by : enabler
2/21/2013 7:01:47 PM
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Half Slayer = SLA


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posted by : Walrus Rimjob
2/21/2013 7:06:06 PM
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No matter what happens wth Slayer, they will still be better than that pile of shit Morbid Angel have turned into


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COMMENT | I vote
posted by : Virus__
2/21/2013 7:08:50 PM
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Tom, Dave, Jeff & Gary make their own version of Slayer and be done with the bald headed Gene Simmons.


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COMMENT | Uh-oh....
posted by : ThrasherNZ
2/21/2013 7:12:36 PM
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"Mr Lombardo" - This does NOT bode well...


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posted by : ThayerIsGod
2/21/2013 7:20:08 PM
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So this is basically Kerry King's statement after a legal department finessed it and made Slayer sound like a cold corporate entitiy.


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COMMENT | he's a minority
posted by : orangekick
2/21/2013 7:30:45 PM
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be careful, (think Larry King) - this minority group only cares about one thing - MONEY!!! Ironically Slayer got taken out by the very thing they've been singing about.


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COMMENT | We don't believe you, "Slayer". We believe Dave.
posted by : downontheupside
2/21/2013 7:38:10 PM
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Go beg forgiveness from Dave and get him back or we're out.

Better hurry Kerry - you're not NEARLY as important as you think you are. And lose the sunglasses at night, Corey.


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COMMENT | how i see it
posted by : mycouchpullsoutidont
2/21/2013 7:53:28 PM
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Dave Lombardo- Tells his side of story, gets into detail, story seems believable.

Kerry King via "Slayer": Deliberately vague statement made by an attorney. Kerry is never short on words; why is he having his lawyer doing the talking here?

Any Slayer fan with a brain can see right through this crap. Put your tail between your legs and call Dave and apologize, Kerry. Then go do another project while Jeff heals.


I would also like to point out that Tom needs to stand up and doing something about this too. Apparently he wanted the auditors too, according to Dave?


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posted by : Horror vacui
2/21/2013 8:00:40 PM
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I Have A Dream:


Tom Araya
Jeff Hanneman
Dave Lombardo
Gary Holt




Fuck off Kerry!




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posted by : Rich376
2/21/2013 8:01:37 PM
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This is fucked up!

No Jeff, No Dave!
Slayer has now entered Queensryche and L.A. Guns territory.

They better get this sorted out quick or they might as well just put Slayer to rest before they destroy the name with a revolving door of band members.


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posted by : petitpoil
2/21/2013 8:04:11 PM
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Wtf No Jeff? No Dave?? Lets just cancel the whole tour or call it something else than Slayer


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posted by : orionjustice
2/21/2013 8:05:40 PM
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Kerry King is the absolute weakest member in Slayer, so it amazes me how he is somehow the helm of the ship.

Kinda' funny reading that statement. The mighty Slayer, reduced to just another corporate entity.


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posted by : vlad.death-o-mat
2/21/2013 8:23:39 PM
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wow... a lot of Kerry King hate.... Look. I don't like this whole thing one bit. It reeks of Queensryche. There is obviously more happening here than what is being fed to us. Everyone should chill the fuck out and pray to Satan that Slayer gets back together.


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posted by : snapchris
2/21/2013 8:26:03 PM
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Who needs a band when you play with snakes all day and make Jagermeister commercials with world champion bullfighters, NFL Wide Receivers, Boxing Trainers, NASCAR Pit Crew Chiefs, Street Artists and Big Wave Surfers? Thats where the real money is at. Another no talent, bald piece of shit that needs to go away forever.


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COMMENT | This is terrible....
posted by : Abyss_of_Blood
2/21/2013 8:30:41 PM
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I have been very hopeful that Jeff would return soon and the real Slayer would be able to put out some more records, but...

It doesn't look as if Jeff is coming back any time soon, and now, there is an issue with Dave... fuck...

And let us not forget Tom's back issues...

If it's not Tom, Kerry, Jeff and Dave, it's not really Slayer. That's the truth. Both Jeff and Dave are integral to what Slayer is.

When did heavy metal become As The World Turns?... It's a sad day...


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COMMENT | Kerry ( Pussy Name )
posted by : Kraven MoreHead
2/21/2013 8:33:14 PM
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No Jenna Jameson. = No Happy Ending.


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COMMENT | blablabla
posted by : sleepwalky
2/21/2013 8:42:53 PM
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90 % of the comments on this thread is pure bullshit, and quit all the accusation towards a specific person.


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posted by : death80
2/21/2013 8:53:57 PM
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half of slayer = Satan Laughs As


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posted by : bringbackacidbath
2/21/2013 8:56:08 PM
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Implosion


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posted by : PeaceLoveandHardLiquor
2/21/2013 9:02:52 PM
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No Al Atkins = No Slayer


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COMMENT | Disappointing
posted by : slambym
2/21/2013 9:14:32 PM
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What is it with all these bands who start out in the garage as best friends, then as soon as a few years roll by or fame strikes, they turn on each other? Is there some form of expectation that I am not aware of that says a band must become a business and all external contact/friendship must cease? For example; Kerry has said several times in recent interviews that he has not spoken to Jeff. Tom has also stated the same. I'm sure that even though they all live away from each other, in this days and age of technology, phone calls could be made and good conversations/updates had. Surely Tom could spend a week at Jeff's house and they could write some songs. They are a great team. Plus I'm sick of hearing Kerry say that he is the only one writing anything for a new album. The whole situation feels fake. Kind of like Motley Crue (sorry to say that band name in a Slayer post!). The guys all hate each other, don't associate outside of the band, but just get back together to tour and make money. Where is God when you need him? Oh yeah, God hates us all!


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COMMENT | late to the table
posted by : YngwiesDonutBaker
2/21/2013 9:21:11 PM
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this could just be another rant from ADDave. KK can be a douche, but he's probably not the only one at fault. this is going to be just like bill fuck; well never know the total truth.

slayer have been done for the past 10 years anyway. there were a couple of good things here and there, but theyve been riding on coattails...and it pains me to say it


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posted by : Scatter
2/21/2013 9:30:17 PM
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Certain words and comments in their response stand out to me.

"SLAYER does not agree with....." The whole band? Really?

"...does not agree with Mr. Lombardo's" - When you address someone that you've played with for more than 20 years by his full name it doesn't indicate a very good relationship exists.

"Mr. Lombardo came to the band less than a week before their scheduled departure for Australia to present an entirely new set of terms for his engagement that were contrary to those that had been previously agreed upon. "

Wasn't "Mr Lombardo" a member of the band? This choice of words makes it seem as if he was simply a hired employee.

"...but out of respect to him, SLAYER will not be commenting further." - Its always a cop out when press releases like these are released under the band name and not the person behind the words.


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COMMENT | Get your act together guys
posted by : clipperofwings
2/21/2013 9:45:57 PM
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and make things right with Dave. Your time is limited as a band and pushing out the best drummer in the world is nothing but moronic at this stage in the game. If Dave doesn't come back, Slayer is done.


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posted by : RiotAct666
2/21/2013 9:56:42 PM
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This is totally lame. What is the problem with disclosing the financial details for him to observe? It sounds like Dave is just sticking up for himsself and his right to be informed. Screw that POS Kerry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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posted by : Your Mom's Best Friend
2/22/2013 5:07:35 AM
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stfu, robot.


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COMMENT | Blabbermouth logic
posted by : Skanna
2/21/2013 10:08:35 PM
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Tom - bored, sick of touring, wants to retire, only still doing it to earn a living.

Jeff - drunk, can't be bothered writing songs or playing his parts on the albums

Dave - Leaves the band for 12 years

Kerry - still cares about the band, writes songs, turns up at the studio to record his parts, does press, deals with the business side.

And the blabbermouth verdict? "Kerry is the biggest asshole in the world. He has destroyed Slayer. He should be shot. How dare he do this to Slayer? etc"

Seriously, you guys crack me up!


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posted by : Skanna
2/21/2013 10:19:32 PM
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Yeah, thumb down my post, girls. Easier than answering it.


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posted by : The Patient
2/21/2013 10:23:27 PM
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A couple of years ago, Dave Lombardo had scheduled drum clinics in Australia during Slayer's proposed tour of Australia.

The Slayer tour was cancelled due to Tom's back injuries, yet Dave still travelled down under to fulfill his obligations. At the time, he stated that he was bitterly dissapointed the band had cancelled the tour, as nothing was more important to him that being professional and showing up to play when you are supposed too.

Forward a couple of years to 2013, and Sh!t has changed dramatically. If Dave had a problem with the deal, why did he agree to it in the first place? I understand he might have learned about a few things that aroused his suspicion regarding the business side of things, but seriously, how is offering a new "business model" the week before a tour the right way to going about things?

Dave didn't think that Tom's health issues were a good enough excuse to cancel the previous tour, yet his financial issues are?

Fu*k off to that rubbish. Now Australia gets a watered down version of Slayer to go along with the watered down version of Anthrax.


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COMMENT | rubbish
posted by : The Patient
2/21/2013 10:23:36 PM
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A couple of years ago, Dave Lombardo had scheduled drum clinics in Australia during Slayer's proposed tour of Australia.

The Slayer tour was cancelled due to Tom's back injuries, yet Dave still travelled down under to fulfill his obligations. At the time, he stated that he was bitterly dissapointed the band had cancelled the tour, as nothing was more important to him that being professional and showing up to play when you are supposed too.

Forward a couple of years to 2013, and Sh!t has changed dramatically. If Dave had a problem with the deal, why did he agree to it in the first place? I understand he might have learned about a few things that aroused his suspicion regarding the business side of things, but seriously, how is offering a new "business model" the week before a tour the right way to going about things?

Dave didn't think that Tom's health issues were a good enough excuse to cancel the previous tour, yet his financial issues are?

Fu*k off to that rubbish. Now Australia gets a watered down version of Slayer to go along with the watered down version of Anthrax.


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COMMENT | !!!!!!!!!!!
posted by : fiendhead
2/21/2013 10:34:25 PM
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did anyone else notice jeff's right leg ? IT LOOKS LIKE A GOATS LEG!!!!!! SLAAAYYYEEERRRRR


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posted by : NoneBuriedDeeper
2/21/2013 11:10:57 PM
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Nothing wrong with looking once in a while to see wear the money is going. It's just smart business sense. To get replaced for it screams a theft and cover up.


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COMMENT | ?????
posted by : Bangz96
2/21/2013 11:19:19 PM
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Slayer is starting to really shit, wait i think they already have. Just pull out Soundwave. There is nothing worse than seeing half a line up. No Jeff, fill in session drummer, disappointment once again. Love their short notice. Looks like I'll be watching Cypress Hill. How about a acoustic set? Ha. I've seen them sorry many times, nothing last forever I guess and you can only stay on top for so long. Yet there is going to be even more pissed off fans down under again.


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COMMENT | Skanna
posted by : YYYYYY
2/21/2013 11:19:26 PM
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Tom Araya: Locked out of the creative process and forced to sing phoney tough bullshit lyrics by a try hard posing as a 'Badass"

Dave Lombardo; Greatest drummer of all time

Jeff Hanneman: Genius songwriter sidelined for reasons unknown/spider bite

Kerry King: Egomaniac, Control freak, weakest link, exhibitionist


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COMMENT | 'RE: Skanna'
posted by : SnarfSnarf
2/22/2013 1:27:37 AM
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"You repulsiveness reminds me of dead flesh"


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posted by : Machine Dead
2/21/2013 11:59:48 PM
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Lombardo.........Black Sabbath.... anyone else that sees the magical ingredients to a metal super potion ? :D


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posted by : jorgen
2/22/2013 12:00:35 AM
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Hey Tom, SPEAK UP!


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posted by : suckingchestwound
2/22/2013 12:04:06 AM
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Slayer are done. Oh well, it was a good run.


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posted by : angryxpeh
2/22/2013 12:11:05 AM
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Just wait, soon we'll hear something like this:

"There is more to the account than what Mr. Araya has offered, but out of respect to him, SLAYER will not be commenting further."


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posted by : zzzzzzzzzzzzz
2/22/2013 12:11:45 AM
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slayer is about to be bigger than they have ever been --
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the world is ready for slayer--it is their time
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australia is a communist cess pool of shit and lameness
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it is wise to remember this--for the future of mankind and heavy metal
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COMMENT | answer to YYYYY
posted by : Skanna
2/22/2013 12:34:04 AM
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A biased interpretation.

Tom - could have said no. Irreplaceable in Slayer, so had plenty of say against King.

Dave - agree.

Jeff - had equal rights to King, could easily have done much more in the last 15 years. No one forced him to bail out of the band. And that's BEFORE the spider.

Kerry - stepped up to the plate cos no one else in the band gave a shit. Egomaniac / control freak? Realy - where's your evidence or argument? Weak link? All 4 members are geniuses.


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COMMENT | Kerry King...
posted by : barcode crucifix
2/22/2013 12:55:19 AM
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Does he not understand what an incredible drummer Dave Lombardo is?


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COMMENT | Skanna
posted by : YYYYYY
2/22/2013 1:11:47 AM
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How is your interpretation not biased? When did Jeff bail out of the band before the spider bite? He was there wasn't he? On Kerry King, the evidence is that Araya wanted to write and King wrote it instead and said that's how it's going to be. Have you noticed how much he's dominated the songwriting credits? King vetoed him out of the writing.
I agree with your point about Araya though. Why doesn't he do something about it?


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COMMENT | zzzzzzzzz
posted by : YYYYYY
2/22/2013 1:12:37 AM
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Fuck you! Never say shit about Australia!


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COMMENT | 'RE: zzzzzzzzz'
posted by : ParasiteLost
2/22/2013 4:25:25 AM
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Australia seems like a place filled with the most nightmarish creatures designed to scare you shitless before they kill you. I respect anyone who can survive in a place like that.


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COMMENT | YYYYYY
posted by : Skanna
2/22/2013 1:37:58 AM
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Kerry wrote most of Divine Intervention. At the time, Jeff said 'If I didn't like what he wrote, I would have said no' (to those songs).

Jeff could also have said no to King's later taking more control, but gradually seems to have lost interest (after Diabolus in 1998). He let King take over, even down to King double tracking rhythm guitars on albums.

If Jeff cared, he could have told Kerry to fuck off. No one forced Jeff to take a lesser role from 2001-11.

Tom could and should have done more lyrics instead of letting King do all his anti-christian ones. No one forced him to do it. Tom could have said 'back off Kerry, I want to write more of the lyrics.' Tom is irreplaceable so he should have stepped up to the plate. For whatever reason, he didn't. His own fault, and to some degree our loss.

At least Kerry gives a shit. By far the most motivated member.


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COMMENT | 'RE: YYYYYY'
posted by : juanneman
2/22/2013 2:37:51 AM
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You have got a point there, now we are seeing the sad truth of this incredible band.


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COMMENT | XXXXXXX
posted by : rac1965
2/22/2013 1:53:37 AM
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I never liked their music or Araya's vocals but Lombardo is an amazing drummer and they are making a mistake!


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posted by : juanneman
2/22/2013 1:59:53 AM
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`Tom [Araya, bass/vocals] and I hired auditors to figure out what happened´, taken from Dave´s statement.

SLAYER statement? Or is it KK´s? More fuel to the fire. They think we are fools.


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posted by : xxx128
2/22/2013 2:25:13 AM
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If slayer gets rid of dave too well then that's the end for them too. Seems like kerry is the poison dwarf destryoing this band.
Pretty sad.


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posted by : TVT
2/22/2013 2:50:11 AM
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"Mr. Lombardo came to the band less than a week before their scheduled departure for Australia to present an entirely new set of terms for his engagement that were contrary to those that had been previously agreed upon"

Well, if that's true, I understand completely why Dave Lombardo was sacked. His job as the band's drummer should be a priority #1. I don't even believe that he has any say on how the band is managed because he left the band 1992 and was rehired on a temporary basis but was kept in the band longer than planned. In other words, he was 100% hired gun.

A big band like Slayer's business agreements can be awfully complicated and it should go without saying that a metal drummer isn't the guy that manages a band's business or starts arguing with Slayer's army of lawyers.


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posted by : For Whom The Bell Trolls
2/22/2013 2:59:02 AM
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Without Hanneman and Lombardo it's just half Slayer;

SLAAAAAAAA!


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COMMENT | Slayer wont be commenting further?
posted by : Arise212
2/22/2013 3:01:39 AM
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They will be constantly asked about this in interviews, especially Kerry.


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posted by : Commander in Chimp
2/22/2013 3:05:00 AM
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If other band members are becoming disengaged, then the engaged, motivated member should work harder to build a consensus.

I know its sounds fanciful, but this is also where Geoff Tate failed. He effectively started to go it alone. And look what happened.

Slayer's music since Diabolous has varied between excellent and boring. I think the input of all members is needed for Slayer to produce more memorable, more inventive music.


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COMMENT | ...
posted by : UlverShuggah
2/22/2013 3:29:20 AM
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Once money becomes the single most defining factor in a bands decisions, that band is over.

Music is art, and the art must come first and foremost.

In my opinion, a band like Slayer touring with it's 1981 / inception line-up - publishing royalties aside - should be a band of financial equals.

This whole situation only reinforces the farce this band has been since the Spider Bite Incidence... and they haven't released a good album since Divine Intervention!

Give it up guys, i have all the Slayer albums i want, I've seen Slayer more than enough times... and they're actually a shadow of the live band they were in the 90s!


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COMMENT | Can't get the reply button to work
posted by : HOD
2/22/2013 4:13:58 AM
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But a couple of points regarding this comment :

"To criticise Lombardo's timing, you can't always predict when you think you're getting ripped off. So it happened right before a tour. When else is he supposed to find out he's being ripper off?"



1. Ripped off? He's a hired hand in a band that other people have run for a long time. I agree he belongs in Slayer, and he obviously have the history, but I can't imagine they give him as much as they earn themselves.

2. Timing. In Dave's origianl statement (which we don't even now is true) he said ""Last year, I discovered". And then showed up under a week before a tour THIS year to negotiate a new deal. To me that sounds like getting leverage.

3. It is not the first time Dave has done this, nad it's not the first time he left them high and dry before or under a tour. I bet that has a lot to do with the others reaction to this.


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COMMENT | Fuck'em
posted by : BattleOfNY
2/22/2013 4:29:15 AM
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Get Mike Patton on the phone and see what's up with new Fantomas material!


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COMMENT | Too much conjecture
posted by : RustyStrings
2/22/2013 5:44:20 AM
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No one knows what's really going on. Blaming stuff on Kerry is freakin nonsense. He was not even mentioned in any precedings in any pending case. You stooges are BS!


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COMMENT | Too much drama for me..
posted by : jugulator2
2/22/2013 5:54:42 AM
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..RIP Slayer 83-91..


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COMMENT | .....
posted by : bongwarrior
2/22/2013 6:06:24 AM
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...... Lombardo wants more money than agreed under his current contract, he thought by stating his new demands immediately prior to going to Australia he'd have a stronger hand for renegotiations, he was wrong. Simple as that.


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COMMENT | Yay!!
posted by : metalmaster1974
2/22/2013 6:16:43 AM
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Grip Inc. Reunion!!!!!


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COMMENT | Spiders,,,
posted by : Bangz96
2/22/2013 6:22:57 AM
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Poor Jeff to many spiders in Australian anyway! Once he is better and gets back into the fold, hopefully he injects and redirects that pain into some killer songs. Slayer awaits!


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COMMENT | Jesus H. Christ...
posted by : rower41
2/22/2013 6:31:25 AM
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...What a bunch of petulant, small, ugly, insulting, negative, hateful and nasty posts emerged on this thread. Ignore the messages that God hates you all...as imperfect beings we are all still blessed children in the eyes of the Lord. Yes, even Kerry and the lawyers too. Who knows what truth lies in the hearts of men; these disagreements will be resolved...plus they make GREAT press hype just before the Tour ;) so do not let yourselves be manipulated into hatred by the forces of darkness. You're all still in my prayers so persevere...


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COMMENT | #
posted by : myself
2/22/2013 6:35:24 AM
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Who exactly is "Slayer"?
Is is a company with shareholders? IS it KK and TA? Is JH involved?
Is it those three and management, or the current two with management?

Is Lombardo a hired hand, or was he invited onto the 'board'?

Really though, the only non replaceable member of Slayer is TA. That said, without the four original members it is not really Slayer.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Voice Of Sanitry
2/22/2013 6:38:28 AM
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'We do not agree'?
That means Dave's telling the truth but we can't call him a liar because he can prove what he's saying in a court of law so we 'disagree'.

Kerry King, you pin headed little sawn off pretend tough guy, you've fucked up the image of Slayer forever and you'll not get another penny of my money ever again. Take 90% of that.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : bongwarrior
2/22/2013 7:46:43 AM
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You can't be that naive can you ? Lombardo said in his post that he was owed a year's salary, for work already completed, and that unless he signed a new contract it wouldn't be given to him. That is complete and utter bullshit, that would be what's called illegal, and any court in the land would find in Lombardo's favour immediately no if's or but's.


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COMMENT | This is just like politics
posted by : Johnny_boy_Angel
2/22/2013 7:21:06 AM
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One side states something, the other denies it. That side than makes a counter statement, and the original first side denies that or frowns upon it. Its a continuous cycle

Its back and forth, nobody ever comes to agree on almost anything, and in the end, its almost pointless to keep trying to analyze it.

There never seems to be any truth found at the root of things...


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COMMENT | @bongwarrior
posted by : Voice Of Sanitry
2/22/2013 7:56:35 AM
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And as we all know, nobody breaks the law in the music industry and everyone gets paid in full on fridays.

Who's being naive?


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COMMENT | 'RE: @bongwarrior'
posted by : bongwarrior
2/22/2013 8:15:33 AM
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You are.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : pigchop
2/22/2013 8:33:12 AM
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slaytanic shitstorm.


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COMMENT | think I know what's behind this
posted by : Rudi_USAF
2/22/2013 8:34:42 AM
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I was thinking about Kerry's reaction and it hit me....the reason why Dave wasn't allowed to see anything is because Kerry & Management are taking the lion's share of $$. Dave is probably misguided into thinking the 4 of them were only sharing 10%. Why else would Kerry not want to change a thing? If YOU were getting screwed out of millions you would want to fix that. This is why I think Kerry and his stupid singer are perfectly fine with things.

That is no way to treat a band member, man....especially after all this time. I'd say Dave has grounds for legal recourse for sure.


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COMMENT | 'RE: think I know what''s behind this'
posted by : PatrickS77
2/22/2013 9:57:54 AM
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Well, the thing is, Dave probably isn't a member anymore. He left in 1992. Partnership got dissolved. And since his return he's just a contracted player. That doesn't suck any less, but I don't think they could just do the tour without him, if he was a full member.


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COMMENT | @bongwarrior
posted by : Voice Of Sanitry
2/22/2013 8:53:32 AM
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Just repeating that doesn't really advance your argument or are you just giving up already?


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COMMENT | 'RE: @bongwarrior'
posted by : bongwarrior
2/22/2013 9:51:03 AM
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My 'argument' doesn't need advancing, if Lombardo is legally correct, then go to court.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : dumbpig
2/22/2013 9:09:42 AM
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It's so sad when a musician's future with his or her band is compromised due to business and political reasons, and words are had by lawyers instead of the band members themselves.


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COMMENT | @bongwarrior
posted by : Voice Of Sanitry
2/22/2013 10:33:28 AM
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Standard music industry practice is you get an advance, then you have to wait ages for the rest because it takes so long to get money out of the all the venues on the tour who all have to do their own books after the night of their gig, you have 40 days to pay for goods in other industries.
It's not like the bands get a sack of used notes and change after each gig.

Although the idea of Slayer sorting through a big bag of coins on the bus going "One for me, one for you..." is funny.

So why wouldn't some shyster say 'Let him wait for his money, we'll get him to sign for less when his mortgage gets behind'? It goes on in every other business.


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COMMENT | 'RE: @bongwarrior'
posted by : bongwarrior
2/22/2013 11:01:48 AM
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No doubt, shysters are like that. So when you're in the right you take them to court.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Voice Of Sanitry
2/22/2013 11:25:39 AM
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So you're calling Lombardo's side of the story bullshit because he hasn't sued them already?
He only found out he was being replaced for these gigs last week.

And sue them for what at this stage? Late payment? Yeah right.
Being told that he wouldn't be paid until he signed a new contract? He was 'told' it, he didn't get it in writing so there's no point going to court with that shit.
He'd have a better chance at unfair dismissal but as so far he's only been replaced for the australian dates you can't blame him for trying to keep it peaceful until it's hopeless for a reconciliation and he's officially dismissed.

Slayer are playing hard ball and for what? Not because he's demanding any money. They're being twats because he thinks the books should be open to all the band. And he's absolutely right. King doesn't want that and it doesn't take a genius to figure out why.

He's a pretend tough guy and a beady eyed pig with his snout in the trough.

Fuck Slayer from now on.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : bongwarrior
2/22/2013 11:38:03 AM
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I'm sure they'll be sorry to lose your patronage.


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COMMENT | I'm a HUGE fan, but...
posted by : barcode crucifix
2/22/2013 11:55:59 AM
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No Lombardo = No Slayer


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COMMENT | wtf
posted by : SykoSykeS
2/22/2013 11:56:56 AM
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Is this the '70s all over again where industry recolted the money and the bands recolted the crumbs ??? Lombardo seems legit in all this crap. I probably would've acted the same (read his facebook post...link at the begining of article)

GREED : Killing Music since, FORFUCKINGEVER !


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posted by : Voice Of Sanitry
2/22/2013 12:06:22 PM
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They should be, i feel the same way as a lot of people right now.
Lombardo is not just any old drummer.

You can stick up for Kerry King, but there's no excuse for treating people you've been in a band with for 30 years like they're just a hired hand, especially when you don't sound as good with anyone else and all they're asking for is to look at the books.


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posted by : Gino C
2/22/2013 1:06:53 PM
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This is bullshit... Fix it boys!


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Sadistikexekution
2/22/2013 1:38:47 PM
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This is the end... Slayer is no more ;-(



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COMMENT | This explains it all...
posted by : 1GRITVOX
2/22/2013 2:39:15 PM
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"Kerry made it clear he wasn't interested in making changes and said if I wanted to argue the point, he would find another drummer. On Thursday, I arrived at rehearsals at 1 p.m. as scheduled, but Kerry did not show. Rather, at 6:24 p.m. I received an email from the lawyers saying I was being replaced for the Australian dates."

Eat Shit KK... You're a little girl that had to stand up to your longtime drummer via e-mail!!!

Expected way more from Slayer than this...





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posted by : Clayton Gold
2/22/2013 3:55:38 PM
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Dave should play drums for Metallica at Soundwave.


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COMMENT | this line alone:
posted by : Andersonic
2/22/2013 6:39:34 PM
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"There is more to the account than what Mr. Lombardo has offered, but out of respect to him, SLAYER will not be commenting further."

respect? What about paying the guy what he earned with hard work? And what is more to the story? Tell all as Dave did...face it KK...you're done...


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COMMENT | Let me get this straight...
posted by : trickbunny
2/22/2013 6:49:38 PM
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...So Lombardo notices, through dilligent examination, that the band is basically being fleeced for their tour money- and that, mysteriously, no one will provide him with any itemized documentation about where some of this money that the band should be keeping is going to... So he goes to his bandmates to basically say "I suspect we're being ripped off and we should look into this" and Kerry King comes back with "We don't need to make any changes" and tells Lombardo that he will be dumped if he wants to keep rocking the boat???

GEE, THAT DOESN'T SOUND ***AT ALL*** LIKE KERRY KING IS SECRETLY FUNNELING MONEY TO HIMSELF AND DOESN'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT.

Kerry King needs to be audited right da fuck now.


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COMMENT | Damn
posted by : The Rabbit
2/22/2013 8:51:16 PM
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Most "thumbs up" approval i have ever seen for comments....and that is impressive considering the number of Vester stories that get posted.


No Jeff and Dave? = NOT SLAYER ANYMORE

Sorry Gary....i think you are awesome...but without Dave....its not Slayer anymore.



GET RIDE OF THE KING!!!!!!


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COMMENT | Kerry Mustaine
posted by : sentient7of9
2/23/2013 1:12:05 AM
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Kerry Mustaine is obviously up to his wrist in Slayer's pie and doesn't wanna give it up. It's also obvious that Slayer is no longer about the music. Fuck this, I'm done with Slayer.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : draxys
2/23/2013 5:10:15 AM
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ok I heard all sorts of reasons for him not performing and basicaly i dont give a fuck ,All I know is that I have 3 kids and a morgage and I paid 200 bucks to see Lombardo with slayer months ago , and hey Im barely making it week after week


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COMMENT | Slayer
posted by : PigeonsWing
2/23/2013 5:55:32 AM
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should all revolt and fire Kerry as he is the one member who is completely replaceable, the other guys have talent...

Kerry would be better on Man Vs Food with Adam Richman


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COMMENT | Slayer
posted by : PigeonsWing
2/23/2013 5:55:37 AM
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should all revolt and fire Kerry as he is the one member who is completely replaceable, the other guys have talent...

Kerry would be better on Man Vs Food with Adam Richman


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COMMENT | Ego's
posted by : TheLegacy1985
2/23/2013 7:28:23 AM
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All guitarists have ego problems, thats why guitarist sounds like egotist ;-)


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COMMENT | #
posted by : myself
2/23/2013 8:44:28 AM
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The new album has been recorded, or the music has with Lombardo and King, who have been laying stuff down for months/years.

What will happen now?


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COMMENT | Well, that's it for me
posted by : Jesus Chrysler
2/23/2013 1:40:08 PM
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Fuckin' shame to see such a once-great band fizzle out like this. Jeff ain't coming back, ever, and now THIS. I love how they "didn't have time to get Mr.Lombardo what he asked for" but they have enough time to get another drummer broken in? What a crock.


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posted by : diabolical
2/26/2013 3:00:53 AM
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With Jeff losing interest in Slayer even before his health issues and Lombardo being hired on a long term temp basis, Exodus guitarist Gary Holt as replacement for Jeff (probably Kerry recruit), with Kerry writing all new music, being the spokesman for the band and all that I am not surprised that it went to his head...after all short distance to follow up that small neck.
So by the looks of it Kerry doesn't want to pay Lombardo equal share and thinks can pocket bigger $hare of the tour monies with a replacement drummer.
I don't think it is fair to have Dette play for both bands as he clearly would be struggling to deliver 100% on the second set. Still - great accomplishment for the guy, plus Kerry and Ian get to pocket half the airfare to have him shipped to Australia, which I am sure has them singing and hugging their accountants.


Kerry's reasoning


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posted by : TexasDog
3/2/2013 5:55:02 PM
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Band members get paid NET, management gets paid GROSS.

that's the problem. Management has no incentive to control costs


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posted by : keyguy
4/14/2013 5:51:11 PM
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Just when I thought Geoff Tate was the top bald-headed douchebag in metal, Kerry King decides to give him a run for his money.


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