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METALLICA: We Did Not Ask Military To Stop Using Our Music To Torture Prisoners - Feb. 19, 2013
METALLICA has denied asking the U.S. military to stop using its music to psychologically torture prisoners of war.

The Navy SEAL who killed Osama bin Laden recently opened up to Esquire magazine about the raid on the Al Qaeda leader's compound and the shots that took his life, as well as the personal aftermath for the SEAL and his family. The SEAL, who is only referred to as "The Shooter" in the article, also mentions that he used the music of METALLICA on prisoners before interrogations — until the band asked them to stop.

The Shooter explained, "When we first started the war in Iraq, we were using METALLICA music to soften people up before we interrogated them. METALLICA got wind of this and they said, 'Hey, please don't use our music because we don't want to promote violence.' I thought, 'Dude, you have an album called 'Kill 'Em All'."

He added, "We stopped using their music, and then a band called DEMON HUNTER got in touch and said, 'We're all about promoting what you do.' They sent us CDs and patches. I wore my DEMON HUNTER patch on every mission. I wore it when I blasted Bin Laden."

"The Shooter" insisted that he did not torture prisoners, but that "repetitive questioning and leveraging fear was as aggressive as he'd go."

In a brand new statement posted on METALLICA's official web site, the band responded to The Shooter's comments in the Esquire article, saying: "There has been a lot of talk recently about us asking the military not to use our music to 'soften people up before interrogation.' We NEVER commented to the military either way on this matter. Any statements that have been made otherwise are not correct."

In a 2009 appearance on MSNBC's "Rachel Maddow Show", METALLICA drummer Lars Ulrich said that the band did not "advocate or condone" the use of the band's music for torture, adding that if someone really wanted to use music to torture others, there were groups that were far more extreme:"If there are people that are dumb enough to use METALLICA to interrogate prisoners, you're forgetting about all the music that's to the left of us. I can name, you know, 30 Norwegian death metal bands that would make METALLICA sound like SIMON AND GARFUNKEL."

METALLICA frontman James Hetfield was asked by a German TV network in 2008 how he felt about the band's music being used to torture prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. He replied, "Part of me is proud is because they chose METALLICA . . . And then part of me is kind of bummed about it that people worry about us being attached to some political statement because of that."



Hetfield talking to 3SAT about use of METALLICA's music to torture Guantanamo Bay, Cuba prisoners (go to four-minute, 45-second mark):

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posted by : mesmerex
2/19/2013 10:37:23 AM
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Damage control. Lars is the biggest wuss in metal. You KNOW he told them not to use their music.


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posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
2/19/2013 11:53:27 AM
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Or to paid some ridiculous fee.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : wild rover of hell
2/19/2013 11:59:02 AM
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He can still kick your ass


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : withnoregret
2/19/2013 12:30:35 PM
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Lars cannot kick anyone's ass.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : seergjej
2/20/2013 1:58:21 PM
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DEMON HUNTER publicity stunt


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COMMENT | ..
posted by : Pod
2/19/2013 10:39:35 AM
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So they're ok with it? I'm not really sure which scenario is worse to be honest.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ..'
posted by : noone69
2/19/2013 5:34:41 PM
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I don't think you understand the kinds of people our enemy are.


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posted by : Persecutorxx
2/19/2013 10:49:02 AM
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torture and metallica go hand in hand...


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COMMENT | I'll tell you what is worse
posted by : Mr.D
2/19/2013 11:01:58 AM
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The fact that Lars tried to be 'hip' by referring to the norwegian "death metal scene". Guy's obviously thinking about black metal.


Nice try though Larsy boy


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posted by : Zambo
2/19/2013 11:02:43 AM
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This goes on all the time with entities as big as Metallica. They have enough people in between them and the outside world that do the dirty work and will take the bullet if it backfires. So the band can say "hey, we never told the military to stop". Which you could make a case that its true because the 4 guys in Metallica didn't directly tell the military to stop. Some disposable representative did, and they can be fired if necssary.


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COMMENT | Oh and btw
posted by : Mr.D
2/19/2013 11:04:40 AM
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The fact that this guy thinks a band is promoting violence by calling an album something or other is just.. Wow


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COMMENT | .+.
posted by : intlecktual
2/19/2013 11:04:42 AM
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I wish they would stop torturing us with albums like Lulu.


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COMMENT | Torture !?
posted by : Meshuggener33
2/19/2013 11:06:10 AM
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just listening to Metallica (not old Metallica) is actually a torture.


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posted by : NoneBuriedDeeper
2/19/2013 11:06:21 AM
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I'm sure they were using the Black album for the torturing.


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COMMENT | Common sense, folks
posted by : snottrocket
2/19/2013 11:10:57 AM
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Artists realize at one point or another that while any PR is good PR, GOOD PR is better PR. Sure it's all fine and dandy and cool when you're a young artist saying "FUCK OFF" to big business and the establishment, but people grow up...even rock stars.

So, for a band like Metallica to try and stay Sweden on stuff like this is just better for them. Especially in this political climate when people get all bent to hell because the found out that the political or social views of a band or celebrity doesn't mesh with their own. It's the safe route.

Besides, even Hetfield said that the video for "The Day that Never Comes" isn't supposed to take on a pro or anti-war position or political position. So, that would lead one to believe that they wanted to stay neutral of the topic.


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COMMENT | I tapped out
posted by : YOURDADDYDEVILANDLORD
2/19/2013 11:17:50 AM
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I surrendered two "songs" into Lulu. Then I tortured myself periodically through the rest of it piece by piece until I was sure I had given myself enough time to fairly judge that it sucked. I was being fair....to Metallica, not myself.


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COMMENT | snottrocket
posted by : jorgen
2/19/2013 11:20:04 AM
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1. It's Switzerland, not Sweden.

2. You're not smart, or well written.

3. I could argue with you point by point, but...

4. Your name is, "snottrocket".

5. Good luck with life.


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COMMENT | 'RE: snottrocket'
posted by : The Ghost at Number One
2/19/2013 11:55:48 AM
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Actually, both Sweden and Switzerland are correct.


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COMMENT | 'RE: snottrocket'
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
2/19/2013 11:57:08 AM
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Your name is the same as a hand lotion people use to jerk off with. Just saying.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: snottrocket'''
posted by : gamblor
2/19/2013 2:16:43 PM
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In what country? Here in the U.S., we have Jurgens. But that's not the same.


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posted by : snapchris
2/19/2013 11:22:56 AM
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Nice scarf, I bet it goes great with your penny loafers and boat shoes


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posted by : Psychobolia.com
2/19/2013 11:25:17 AM
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Lars is lying. No way in hell can he name 30 Norwegian death metal bands.


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posted by : gamblor
2/19/2013 11:53:00 AM
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I'm not sure that anyone involved in this situation is being completely honest. Oh well. These guys can have fun arguing about such trivialities.


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COMMENT | what's the difference?
posted by : luvbuder
2/19/2013 12:01:24 PM
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you know, between death metal and black metal? it all sounds pretty lame.


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COMMENT | 'RE: what''s the difference?'
posted by : gamblor
2/19/2013 12:31:42 PM
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It's not hard to tell the difference. Some day, you'll grow up and understand.


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COMMENT | The SEAL Who Said This
posted by : Skeleton Of Society
2/19/2013 12:05:19 PM
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Gets the standard Ralph Wiggum greeting - "Hi, liar."


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COMMENT | Fucking American soldiers and their leaders
posted by : Sabbathman
2/19/2013 12:07:17 PM
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Fighting, suffering and dying for their great fucking land led by rich fat hypocrites, lowlife businessmen who send these poor soldiers to fight for their wealth around the world. Who gives a fuck what music they supposedly use during their campaign of worldwide robbery. Any U.S. soldier should just refuse to fight outside the borders of the U.S. for these rich psychopath fucks because it's not a justified fight for your country and for the benefits of your country, it's a fucking robbery of distant foreign lands from their resources, the robbery is led by the 0,0001 % elite of your country.

Any war, except defending your own or your friend's country from being occupied by a hostile army, is UNJUSTIFIED. This principle should be branded on the forehead of anyone who wants to send other people to fight their robbery wars and anyone who believes it's right to do so. I belong to my country's military and I would defend my country from being occupied, I would do it for my family and friends, for my country staying independent, but I would NEVER go into a distant foreign land to fight, let alone get wounded, injured or killed for some businessmen and their well-being.

These rich fucks should man up and take weapons themselves and go into that country that they so wish to rob and control.


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posted by : MrEplayR
2/19/2013 12:07:32 PM
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It was the prisoners who asked the military to stop torturing them with Metallica music.


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COMMENT | So
posted by : Hemiskull
2/19/2013 12:10:14 PM
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they torture are soldiers with Cat Stevens we torture them with Metallica.

No Jesse Ventura = No Navy Seals


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posted by : zzzzzzzzzzzzz
2/19/2013 12:17:29 PM
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in 2009--lars said that they didnt condone using metallica to torture people on cnn--like the article said

the military monitors cnn----so then they quit using that music
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thats probably how it went down----the shooter just thought it was directly stated
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fuck all communists

shit on the media

911 was an inside job

god bless america and the world


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COMMENT | Metallica = Gods
posted by : RiotAct666
2/19/2013 12:25:05 PM
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& the gold standard!!!!! Hail the kings of metal!!!!!!!


God bless our brave troops too!!!!!!!!! \m/ \m/


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posted by : Scatter
2/19/2013 12:25:28 PM
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Someone can't get this story right. Metallica denies that they asked to not have their music used and Demon Hunter denied that they offered to have their music used.


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posted by : dejavu
2/19/2013 12:29:41 PM
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that is a pretty funny headline. I think Lars was just worried about the mechanical royalties angle, but they worked it out.


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posted by : zzzzzzzzzzzzz
2/19/2013 12:35:31 PM
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bill clinton never says who is dad is---he was guided into politics from an early age---groomed
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john rockefeller is the main american that is "pro u.n."---all the time magazines and shit kiss his ass
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bill clinton was the first outright "u.n. loyal"/anti america president

arrest john rockefeller and his son bill clinton=--=-fuck those motherfucking baby killing--war starting--911/okc bombing motherfuckers


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COMMENT | ^^
posted by : Your Mom's Best Friend
2/19/2013 12:48:32 PM
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Time for your meds, zzzzzzzz - ya fucking raving lunatic :-)

Then you can go back to sleep.


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COMMENT | and
posted by : Your Mom's Best Friend
2/19/2013 12:51:37 PM
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Fuck Metallica for not taking a clear stand against torture!

What country is this anyway, Syria or some shit? US should know/be better that this.


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posted by : zzzzzzzzzzzzz
2/19/2013 12:52:17 PM
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you fuckin chickenshit =--internet--tax payer funded

traitor
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i hope that when the fbi./homeland security--finally gets the nerve to go after the real "911 perpetrators"==that they fucking go thru the network/financial channels of you shithead benedict arnold cocksuckers

blow it out your ass---go back to sucking your moms dick

then you can go back to sleep


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posted by : gamblor
2/19/2013 2:17:42 PM
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Is this where your Space Communists come in to play?


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : zzzzzzzzzzzzz
2/19/2013 3:00:29 PM
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gwar =space communists and the true territorial pissed gamblor=under the standard==generic robo bitch/aids standard--dried up well of wannabe lies


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COMMENT | Send these chickenSHIT chickenhawks out to war insted:
posted by : Your Mom's Best Friend
2/19/2013 12:53:47 PM
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Generation Chickenhawk: the College Republicans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFGit_tZDqs


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COMMENT | CANNIBAL CORPSE?!?!!?!?
posted by : METALHENDRIX
2/19/2013 12:57:53 PM
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CANNIBAL CORPS IS 100 PERCENT PURE AMERICAN DEATH METAL AND MAKES METALLICA SOUND LIKE EARLY MADONNA.


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posted by : Sadistikexekution
2/19/2013 1:22:21 PM
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Just let the prisoners read riotact's posts, they'll die in agony!


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COMMENT | James is cunt.
posted by : megawhite
2/19/2013 1:25:09 PM
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What a fucking slimey, piece of spewtum. Is he thick or what? This defensive little shit does not even understand the question. Yes James, we are aware that any song could be a pain in the rectum after a while, but the issue is would you like your OWN songs to be used as torture? You fucking splott! lol.


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posted by : diabolical
2/19/2013 1:39:40 PM
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More than 5 minutes of the snare sound on St Anger would soften up anyone, not just the Taliban.


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posted by : MrEplayR
2/19/2013 2:14:08 PM
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COMMENT | So
posted by : Hemiskull
2/19/2013 12:10:14 PM
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No Jesse Ventura = No Navy Seals

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No Jesse Ventura = Better Off


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COMMENT | hahahah!
posted by : Clayton Gold
2/19/2013 2:20:07 PM
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Any of you clowns who were mouthing off about this the other day, if you actually watched the interview with James, you would have already known this.


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COMMENT | In other news...
posted by : maximus severus
2/19/2013 2:40:14 PM
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Should of played them Monster by KISS neither man not beast could endure that twice...


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posted by : F.o.C.
2/19/2013 3:34:09 PM
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I never heared about this norwegian death metal scene that Lars is talking about...


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COMMENT | oh hey man I talk to Metallica
posted by : dogsholylife
2/19/2013 4:09:39 PM
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I'm sure this navy seal is some stupid lying hillbilly redneck who is just looking for attention


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COMMENT | Norwegian Death Metal.
posted by : Zosimus
2/19/2013 4:24:56 PM
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Using the Advanced Search at Metal-archives.com, a listing of Norwegian Death Metal bands produces 287 entries, though that includes cross-genre bands.

Haven't heard of most of them, but some interesting band names, such as "Buttocks" and "Forcefed Horsehead". I recognise some of the band names, such as Old Funeral, Zyklon, Keep of Kalessin and Funeral.


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COMMENT | Lars, you stupid fuck
posted by : Namnikufecin
2/19/2013 4:55:11 PM
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The thing isn't if the music is scary or not, it is used to keep the suspect awake for like two days before "the hearing" by starting and stopping it loud every 4 minutes or so. You could do that with Frank Sinatra I guess.

Lars intelligent businessman, lousy drummer. Succesful guy, can't take that away from him.


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COMMENT | A lot of you guys think James and Lars make ALL the decisions...
posted by : Green Machinist
2/19/2013 5:55:57 PM
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...but really, there is a whole ARMY of lawyer and PR types that make decisions for them every day. Im sure someone else besides the actual band might have made a call or sent a letter.
Metallica is big business, like it or not.


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posted by : myself
2/19/2013 6:32:02 PM
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I am still waiting for proof that would stand up in a court of law that OBL was in fact killed like they say he was.
Doctored ans set up photos and Obama or anyone else talking in a mic is not proof.


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posted by : wanteddead
2/19/2013 7:27:40 PM
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"'Dude, you have an album called 'Kill 'Em All'.""

What fucking stupid, dumbass, small-minded motherfucker. It's EXACTLY like saying to a video game developer they support violence and war just because they make a game w/ violence in it. Please don't tell me I need to explain the logic.


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posted by : theredpill
2/19/2013 9:13:17 PM
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If they REALLY want to musically torture their victims they should use SWANS or Sunno))). Even the bands that play that music can't stand it all day!


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COMMENT | Get the Hell out
posted by : RedZombie
2/19/2013 9:59:47 PM
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Stupid shooter idiot, tries to make it seem like they are promoting violence because of an album name. Gimme a fucking break. Someone should shoot him.


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COMMENT | Tough spot
posted by : tartareandesire
2/20/2013 8:51:54 AM
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James doesn't want to alienate any fans. He tries his best to be apolitical but not taking a stand against torture is as political as it gets. He speaks like a cowardous diplomat. Like James says it doesn't really matter what Metallica does though. If they want the military to stop using their music they will just choose some other band.

The US is the same shit as Iran or whatever though. A civilized country does not use torture or the death penalty. Learn something from your ancestors in Europe...


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COMMENT | EVERY country has skeletons in the closet
posted by : hetfield's orange juice
2/20/2013 1:07:19 PM
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my friends in the US are the first to point out that in the US every means possible is justified and fair if it serves the goal of the US as an advantage.

even if it means stepping over a shitload of bodies. the country was built on the bones of the dead just like many others. nothing superior there.

and enhanced interrogation sounds much nicer than torture, right?
everything else washed away by blind patriotism.
the best example is that seal/sheep, who clearly is not the sharpest tool in the shed even though I applaud him for assassinating the terrorist.

But it's always the winner of a war who dictates history, and one is better damn careful to put too much water on one side of the balance. I talked to a lot of people in very different countries like Egypt, Morocco, Indonesia, Sudan, Jordan, Malaysia, and they have a lot of damn good reasons to hate the west.

other countries and cultures are not looking up to the west anymore and do their own thing and many are succesful doing so. and that scares people in the west. even more so, it scares the economy and those who are keen on holding on to the stupid myth that one country is superior to all others. people who are willing to kill other people for a myth - does that ring a bell?

the USA lost its moral authority somewhere along the line, just like most of europe. and that's our demise, which will come in the long run, not through some jackass muslim fundamentalists, who are despised by the vast majority of the people, no less than fascists in "our" countries.

giving those people, who have nothing by our standards, their own ground zeros and killing civilians by remote or gun and declaring them as subhuman AK47-wielding sand people is the best any terrorist can hope for.
If that seal had happened to been born in Baghdad and saw his parents filetted by shrapnel, he would have been the first to fly the islamofascist flag.

Sad to see that Ulrich & Hetfield take cheap PR over principles. Fight Fire with Fire, For whom the bell tolls, Welcome Home, Disposable Heroes and the entire Justice album speak a clear language.


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