If this headline said "Slash interviewed by a turkey"...I'd be more interested

at least you can count on slash to sit down with literally anyone to do an interview - the guy has a knack for staying in the press despite the fact that his last decent work was done more than 20 years ago. do not even try to tell me that snakepit albums or his velvet nonsense was good.

This last great album by him was out in 2012, and before that was in 2010, then 2007. You get it. Slash rules!

Slash & Myles > Axhole Poser.

I bet the Turks want to call hakk slash out for his shitty muzakk.
Even at the Bosporus you're not safe from krapokalipptikk lust.

So:
FUKK HAKK SLASH, MUFFMEISTER MCLOAD, JUNKIE ADLER & ASSKISSER RIOTACT.

AXL=GNR!!!
AXL=GOD!!!

I respond here to your message on another post about guitar player who write riffs and singers rounding out songs.

I don't agree about Jimmy Page. He didn't need anybody to create a masterpiece from start to finish. I really don't think Robert Plant was the mastermind behind Led Zeppelin, far from it.

The others i don't really know how they worked, but you're right. Team chemistry is another matter, and Gn'R had one of the best with all members (except the drummers) adding his touch to the songwriting.

I do agree though, that after Led Zeppelin, Page wasn't the same, but anyway, he's far ahead from Slash because he obviously had all the songwriting skills you can dream of, he had the vision.

the new Le.Dieu. :)

have you heard Jimmy Page's offerenings after Led Zep? (I know you have, ha). The more I've read about them, the more I've heard Plant did indeed have a huge hand in the songs, and JPJ. a Group effort. believe me, I think Page is brilliant, producer, riff writer, songs like rain song, complicated, but still very listenable...but Plant rounded out the songs with great melodies, and great vocals, he also wrote...I think his solo stuff is far superior to Pages.....and their first 2 records were mainly working off old blues riffs, not knocking that, but...Vision is a great word for Page.

Add EVH to that list, great writer on guitar, came up with a ton of stuff, but his singers took those riffs and added the melodies. I guarantee a solo EVH in his hey day, would be great guitar, but lack the finished songs.

I'd never compare Slash to Page. ITs not even Pages playing, we know he could be sloppy live, but its more his mind...but like you just mentioned, GnR was a great colloboration. Izzy's input, Slash's great riffs and tone, attitude(musically), Axl's writing, voice, attitude, it added up to a great, very memorable band. The whole FAR better than the pieces.

I honestly think there are few guys in rock history that are just brilliant on their own. Any of the individual Beatles, Hendrix, Bowie, they did it themselves...Axl had great input in GnR, but those songs are equally as good cuz of Slash. Taking nothing away from Axl's input. (even a subtle thing like adding the studder "sshnana Knees" in Jungle, very creative)....and Axl did bring wholes songs, true, but so did Slash(Coma for instance). izzy added more...like the Beatles, lots of input from many talented guys.

on the opposite side, I'm not going to knock Bumblefoot, I realize he can play circles around Slash. Same with Buckethead. I've scoured Youtube listening to Buckethead's guitar gymnastics, very impressive. But I'm fine with hearing it once, there were no songs i liked, bottom line, that's what its all about. Because there are millions of Bucketheads out there.

oh, Pete Townsend, like the Who or not, was 99% of the Who's vision, writing. I forgot him. more so than Page actually.

Good debate though.

I know you like Alex LIfeson alot, as do I. But I do think, if he were a solo artist, you have some great playing, but I think Geddy is more the key song writer, at least from the point of writing melodies...Alex solo, and I'm only guessing, nothing to go on, I think would be more of an guitar album, for big fans of his guitar work. Nothing wrong with that, but I think you wouldn't have the epic songs, or rock radio songs...my point being, Slash is no different than the majority of them. (and I like the 2 Snakepit albums alot, raw R&R, very listenable tunes).

Alex Lifeson already has a solo album : Victor. And it's not a guitar type album that much, more songwriting. Some songs sound like Frank Zappa. For me, it proved he was a great songwriter on his own. Not typical songs, but well done.

For Zeppelin, i know Plant, Jones did a lot, but i don't think that Page was giving some riffs to Plant to structure the songs. Not a chance. When i think about songwriting skills, i don't talk about arrangments, addind a melody here and there, or vocals or guitar lines, i talk about the foundation of a song, its structure, the way a part melt into another to make a transition for the song evolution. The rest is the icing on the cake and it's important too but not as important. I'm pretty sure that, in Zep, that was mostly Page. Yes, they were all important, but the core was Page. I talk in the same sense for Guns. I'm sure that, yes, Slash came up with riffs for Coma but the structure of the songs, the transitions, not really. Axl's been able on Chi. Dem to show that he was able to structure songs with complexity, so i'm pretty sure he did that in Gn'R too, mostly, but, yes again, with all the input of the others.

As for Jimi Hendrix, he's an average songwriter. He,s the master to add flavor to songs with his awesome creative playing but for the most part, the songs under that icing are average.

didn't know Lifeson had a solo album...and I can't disagree w/you re: Page. I'm also doing some guess work on the inner workings of Zep, from what I've read, which may not always be acurate. They are also very tight lipped. And I do agree Page was the essense of Zep, it was his brain child.

I can understand why you may think that about Hendrix, though I disagree. while he only had 3 studio albums, if you like him, I'm hard pressed to find a bad song. all three albums are considered classics. but, that is indeed opinion....regardless, my main point is those songs are 100% him, and those songs are important rock songs. Electric Ladyland is a top 10 album for me, a masterpiece.

Axl is definitely going to give bring more epic songs to the table. (though COma is epic). Can't argue that either, I know what you are saying. I just think Slash offers a hell of a lot more than you are giving him credit for, at least in the past. For my $$, he'll bring some good riffs, structure to the table, and of course Axl is going to add a ton more to the mix than Myles....Despite being a mess, I also think Weiland was a talent songwriting wise. Drugs definitely wasted many prime years for STP.

what year was the LIfeson? During Rush's hiatus?

Victor (in fact it's not on the name Alex Lifeson) came out in 1996. I suggest you to see some songs on youtube.

I've been guilty of diminishing Slash's contribution, yes. I admit it was mainly to provoke people a bit. I know Slash contribute a lot of riffs and his name appear on a lot of songwriting credits. It's just that you would have like to see Slash offer more after Gn'R, some more epic songs, i expected it, like Coma, Locomotive, for example. Some tunes are great musically, like Serial Killers (thanks for the suggestion). But i maintain that he can't come up with amazing songs by himself and that he is an average songwriter. But yes, he was a great part of what made Guns an extraordinary band. In fact, what he did in Guns is among my favorite guitar playing ever.

Yes, Hendrix has few bad songs but few amazing songs too, from my point of view. That's why i said average, but songs like Castle made of sand, Little wing, Voodoo Chile, The wind cries Mary are very good songs, but i can,t compare that, for example, to the majesty of Page's songwriting. He wasn't alone, since it was a band but i try to analzy the results on the albums.

Anyway, i can appreciate a lot of Hendrix, i also love his album Blues and his live shows, the way he can creat amazing melodies on the spot. That is unmatched.

Victor (in fact it's not on the name Alex Lifeson) came out in 1996. I suggest you to see some songs on youtube.

I've been guilty of diminishing Slash's contribution, yes. I admit it was mainly to provoke people a bit. I know Slash contribute a lot of riffs and his name appear on a lot of songwriting credits. It's just that you would have like to see Slash offer more after Gn'R, some more epic songs, i expected it, like Coma, Locomotive, for example. Some tunes are great musically, like Serial Killers (thanks for the suggestion). But i maintain that he can't come up with amazing songs by himself and that he is an average songwriter. But yes, he was a great part of what made Guns an extraordinary band. In fact, what he did in Guns is among my favorite guitar playing ever.

Yes, Hendrix has few bad songs but few amazing songs too, from my point of view. That's why i said average, but songs like Castle made of sand, Little wing, Voodoo Chile, The wind cries Mary are very good songs, but i can,t compare that, for example, to the majesty of Page's songwriting. He wasn't alone, since it was a band but i try to analzy the results on the albums.

Anyway, i can appreciate a lot of Hendrix, i also love his album Blues and his live shows, the way he can creat amazing melodies on the spot. That is unmatched.

good stuff! we've gotten to the heart of the matter!...and I'd agree, Slash probably isn't the best song writer from A to Z. He needs the singer to finish it off...and you can disagree, but it will be down hill from here now, I noticed on the last album he's reusing, not so much riffs, but solo tendencies. Eddie Van Halen started doing the same solo "tricks" over and over by 5150. Slash is doing that now...and Myles is going to create Nicklebackish melodies.

I'm also a firm believer musicians, like athletes, have a prime, where they are brimming with ideas, and energy to get their message across. They run dry, or start reusing ideas. So, I don't think you'll hear Slash, Axl, any of them, setting the rock world on their collective ears anymore.

Re: Hendrix, that's cool, its all opinion. I have friends that love so much music, but are turned off by Hendrix, either too dated, or don't like blues style as much....a song like "One rainy wish" or "Bold as Love" show great song writing talent. As wel as one of my all time solos in "bold as love".

I really do think GnR was great due to the parts. People say "Tracii Guns is the real GnR, blows Slash away" etc. If that was the case, and the chemistry was there, he'd have remained. Slash, beyond writing some great riffs, has, for my $$, the best tone post EVH. Not a hair metal fan, so when I heard Slash, I was totally into that sound. He still has a great tone, style, and attitude in his playing. We all know there are far better technicians...(and for techincal playing, Anastasia isn't bad btw).

That leaves us with the current Gnr. If you are a big fan of Axl's GnR contribution, there's much to be taken from it. I like it, but he wasn't my main draw to GnR. He started as such a kick ass front man. By 1991 I do believe he lost the plot, that street balliness turned to almost a hard rock Madonna...musically, he was sound in his writing. That comes through on TWAT, which is a great tune, I've said that. again, all opinion. :)

Mustaine, if you like him, is one of those visionaries, and THE band. He can change guys, and its still MEgadeth, because the sound, the songs, vision, all him. Great player too. (I realize he had his classic era band).

I'll listen to the Hendrix songs you suggest.

As for Mustaine, you're totally right. The guy wrote Rust in piece almost all by himself. There are 2 or 3 contributions from David Ellefson, and sometimes it's lyrics, and he did Dawn Patrol. The rest is all Mustaine, and that's impressive.

Sure, Axl has past his prime too, tl least in the sense of productivity, not of songwriting ability. He seems to be a mix of perfectionnism and insecurity that prevent him to release stuff. Now that he's alone, he do what he wants. At least, the other were surely pushing him in Gn'R. I would have love a follow-up to UYI with the bamd that this those two albums. Both albums are among my favorite and i still play them regularly. From a songwriting point of view and diversity, i prefer UYI to AFD.

And you know what i think of Chinese democracy. I thinkl that this album his unique and shows amazing songwriting. It's not Guns n' Roses but , it doesn't matter to me. It still full of great songs. I thing that songwriting wise, it's among Axl best stuff.

thanks for the great conversation.