Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.


Also, Christian music sucks.

Time to get sober.

....

that religion is always around drug abuse, alcoholism and dysfunction in general? Coincidence? I think not. More like more of the same. God has been dead for a long fucking time. Religion music is stupid.

*stops to catch breath*


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Whinny metal heads win. This scene blows!!!

as he should. holier than thou douchbag.

Good luck working toward full-time mission work in the Middle East asshole!

No opinion about this band but that was a hell of an apology. Dude said he was sorry and didn't dress it up in "I regret if anyone was offended" bullshit that you see a lot.

Just a shame that this guitar player has chosen to respond to his outburst of hatred by full-on wrapping himself up in studying the mythology that caused his hatred in the first place.

From what I read in the article, that was his facebook post. He didn't apologize for anything.

If you are talking about the youtube video, that is another dude.

No shit sherlock!

Yikes. Once those religious nutjobs get a hold of this religious nutjob...

fuck. that was a hell of an apology and the dude actually gave his cell number and said "call me if you were offended..."

that's fucking pretty mind blowing.

i'm not a fan of this band and i think religion is bullshit and filled with more hate than love, but this dude deserves some props.

he's in a pretty successful and and he's giving out his phone number to talk to anyone who felt wounded by the comments of the old band member.

wow. good for him.

and, by the way, not all Christian metal sucks: Believer is an amazing thrash band and a band called Stavesacre is great too, kinda like a faster Tool.

also, gay people don't choose it as a "life style"; they're born like that. who the fuck would "choose" to be persecuted, ridiculed and loathed by most of the world.

uh, not the guy who made the statement in the first place. he really doesn't need to apologize at all.

sorry, you obviously get that, I was replying to the post above.

.....but I have a lot of respect for their frontman after watching that video. Music is the universal language. It knows no faces, creeds, or sexual preference. If you feel it, you feel it. If you dig it, you dig it. It's supposed to unite us, not divide us. This dude seems to get that.

Wow. This guy is a fucking tool. That's all I have to say about that.

Well, this guy and whoever thumbed me down for that one.

Screw this POS & everything he stands for.

Wow - I agree with RiotAct666 on something!

Besides, weren't dudes banging each other b.c.
So is this Guy's comments even relative to the Bible.?

Pathetic...

They look like a bunch of brainless weight lifters

The saddest part is that he doesn't realize what a total ignoramus he is. Missionary my ass. How many other peoples are going to be screwed by "get god or die" fucks?

For Today = the Westboro Baptist of mallcore

What an ignorant comment. Regardless of their shitty "getting on my knees to please jesus" lyrics, generalizing all christian music as garbage is stupid. Theres some amazing christian bands. If lyrics is all you care about, listen to country or some faggy radio pop songs. If the music is good, ill listen to it.

Clearly this band is not a good example of good christian music, because they are terrible.

"quit"

He shouldn't have to apologize for speaking his opinion based on his Biblical faith. The LGBT community are the biggest crybabies (like most minority groups). I used to be a member of the pro-black social clubs in the community and they were so biased, race-baiting that I got tired of their crap and left. The LGBT preach tolerance but they are ironically the least tolerant of other people views and beliefs.

Very well put!!

Fuck that faggot shit. Homos are like the pet mascot for PC metal/ goth/ industrial these days and fuck all that. If you're cool, you'e cool. If you're asshole then I'll be an asshole. And the way homos and liberals shoot their mouths off all the time, I could care less about supporting that kind of shit. If they want to be like regular people just be like regular people and quit making every little thing into a huge issue which in this days and age of globalization, serves to cause the formation of enemies and opposition no matter what the cause. From my experience, faggots cop a bitch ass attitude when they find out I'm a Christian and I may have been more supportive of their inequalities had they been just cool people. As for being a nice Christian, when you're a Native American minority in today's world, things are never pretty as you want them be (not even for your opposition) and you get used to dealing with ugly really fast. Don't harm or cause injustice to LBGT individuals is what I say; but don't put up with their stupid bullshit either and take them to task like you would any other person off the street by personality alone.

No shit, why can't everyone hate fags as much as jesus did!!!!

Are you mad, bro? Maybe you wouldn't have to deal with ugly as much if you weren't ugly yourself. yolo

Just by what you just said, you will judge them and hate them regardless. Good christian.

don't let a dick hit you in the ass on your way out.

I'm sorry, but God is dead. Why is this still an issue in 2013?

nice pic. boiiiiiing!

Stupid ass. Stupid ass posing as a female. And uneducated female at that.

Way to be misleading Bori, making it sound like he quit the band because of the tweets, fuckin fag.

Well said Jamaal.

drunk tweets rule

I guess they're popular in the christian community...too bad christians wont be reading blabbermouth...I suppose

Have you met the fag hater up earlier in the thread, he's christian.

Typical Atheist: "There is no god, never was a God. There is no being in the clouds that is going throw lightning bolt at you. There is no heaven or hell and there is no sin. So with that said, go out and have sex with whomever you want to with as many women you want to, you don't have to get married. Get drunk and just have fun. The best bands are any progressive and/or jazz fusion rock/metal band, old school hip hop and technical death metal.

Oh yeah, if you are a true atheist like myself, then you must watch intelligent shows like Big Band Theory and Dexter. Your favorite comedians should be George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Louis CK and almost anyone who isn't Larry the cable guy or Dane Cook. Oh and Charles Darwin, Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins and Stephen Hawkins are the gods of atheism."

Ah, the old Atheism = no morals thing. Not to mention confusing atheists with antitheists. You're a Christian fundamentalist who will slay Jews and Muslims just to prove how much Jesus loves them. Oh, wait, I missed some nuances? Fuck nuances, bro.

I was raised in a very strick religion (cult) Jehovah Witnesses. After leaving i looked into how the F'ng Bible was made. All about control. If i had a 10 yr old i would ban them from reading it. Insest is in there. Who did cain have sex with. Read about Lot and his daughters getting pops drunk and having sex with him to bear children. Or read about a woman who lusted after guys who were hung like a donkey and have emmissions of a horse. Lol what a farce. The bible borrowed from Greek mythology. Bible nephilem, Greek m. titans. Bible samson, Greek m. Herculies. Once you really find out how things really are you tend to say no, nobthank you. I hate christin rock just another avenue to push religion on to people and tell them how to live. This prick is blind to the fact the bible was written by man, if there was a God why couldnthe rlwrite it himself? I mean after all he created everything. The universe us the earth, but he couldnt pull off writing or making a book himself. Hmmmmmm somting fishy here.

Sorry dude...hope you're doing fine

Some clarification is needed over this statement:



“There IS a state church being formed, there is going to be an exclusive acceptance of preachers who advocate the LGBT(link to DallasVoice article)… Don’t be deceived, homosexuality is a sin. This sin with all other sins is what Jesus died for. He conquered so that we would be free. No such thing as a gay Christian, the same as there is no such thing as a Christian who loves his sin. Don’t be fooled by the formation of a state church as though the government is being converted, they only use the name of Jesus for their progressive liberal agenda. If you are a Christian then separate yourself from this civil religion that advocates sin. Stay true to God”



My sole concern is not what I said, but that via social network there is a huge chasm between what is being said and the tone of voice that I would use to say it face to face. There is an apparent disconnect between tone and the statement I made. I would enjoy this dialogue in person, but as a blanket statement via twitter it is quite insufficient and is heard as though I am picketing a funeral rather than expressing what I believe to be true. My intention was not to isolate the LGBT community(there has been enough of that), but to express that Christianity is not an “everyone is welcome and not required to change” kind of an organism. The essence of Christianity is that the One True God has intervened in the broken cycle of human affairs and made a way for them to know Him and as a byproduct of knowing Him, be given true life. To say that there is no such thing as a gay Christian is simply to state that the initial requirement for a person to come to God is repentance. Repentance means to change your mind, when a person repents they change their mind. In the case of following Jesus, repentance is simply that a person who thinks their way is the best way would be required to think that Gods way is the best way. No one can follow Jesus without repenting of their sin, so no one can be a Christian without repenting from sin.



When I met my wife I surrendered any and all appetites for other women, she became my last romantic attraction. The basic rules of relationship like truth, love, sincerity, etc are intended to sustain the health of the relationship. There is a rule in our marriage that we are to be faithful to one another and not have any other partners. This rule is not a bad thing because I know how wonderful she is, but if I understood my wife to be an unreasonable hag then this rule would be a burden. When I observe how wonderful and faithful my wife is then I say simply, “whatever you say goes.” We exist inside of this understanding of mutual love for one another.



So it was when I met Jesus Christ, at first I saw a figure in history who wanted to brainwash, manipulate, and twist people to feed an egotistical hunger of some sort. With this understanding of Jesus of Nazareth I was unable to know Him, I couldn’t look at any of His commands without feeling a weight and burden of obeying someone that I didn’t love. However, God intervened in my life and I saw Him in His true light, I see the One who loves me enough to correct me when I am wrong and to affirm me when I am right. He is wonderful and I have repented of my past life and come to this conclusion, “whatever He says goes.” He died for me, I will joyfully live for Him. Does this mean that absolutely no mistakes are allowed in the Christian life? Absolutely not, I am a man who is familiar with making mistakes. The reality however is that they are in fact, mistakes. This IS a learning process that I myself am in, I have not figured out all of what it means to follow Jesus, but I am willing to spend my life on learning. He is worthy of my life, my time, my everything and He faithfully leads me along this road called life. He is my everything and without Him I could not go through the things that I am required to go through.



I love every member of the LGBT community and in no way want to simply isolate any individual group of people, but to remain true to the word of God that, “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.” I desire for them to know God AS I desire for all people to know God through Jesus Christ.



To sum this up, I am not isolating homosexuality, but stating that ALL sin must be left behind to follow Jesus as Jesus Himself prescribed. Greed, selfishness, pride, envy, dishonesty, and any others you can think of must be surrendered for Gods way of honest relationship with Him. Homosexuality is not the ONLY sin and I would never say anything of the sort, but it is an issue in our day and at this time. My desire is for Christian men and women to understand what sin is and to offer the only one true solution to that sin, the life, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. He is The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world, this is only good news to someone who has been enabled by the grace of God to stop loving their sin, no matter what that sin is. If a man or woman loves their sin then they cannot obey the requirement of Jesus to repent and to follow Him. This is not something that human beings are intended to do in their own strength, on the contrary, God is to be glorified because He alone is the only One who can love us out of our mess.



Leave the burden behind, let go of those things that so easily distract you, God has demonstrated His love towards us that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us, to set us free from sin and from death. Follow Him.



“Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of God.



If you have read this far, thank you, I love you and would be willing to respond to emails at questions.mikefortoday@gmail.com

TL;DR

Hold up a sec - Did you say you actually MET Jesus?? No fucking way!! High-five me bro; come on, don't leave me hangin'...;)

If anyone actually reads the entire post above this, they are automatically allowed into the kingdom of heaven for simply having no life.....

It's like reading a Terms of Service.

yeah I didn't read that long graduate school thesis statement, my ADD got the best of me lol

I got distracted by a gay porn pop-up.

I hope this fucking whack job is enjoying his 15 minutes of fame because this is the last time anyone is ever going to pay attention to his self righteous ignorant ass in this lifetime or the next. Fucking asshole!

Saying something controversial and then shying away from it, HOW GHEY!

Thanks Mattie Montgomery for making this video, I am one of those who isn't the slightest offended and doesn't feel any of the emotions you talked about here... I just feel sorry for your ex band mate that he is so brainwashed and blinded by such a useless and sinful thing as Christian religion is for making the type of comments he makes.

It's a good thing him and his wife decided to go and work full time missions in the Middle East, I just hope they won't spread too much religious bullshit over there.

- makes baby Jesus cry.

This almost made me feel sympathetic towards Nergal tearing a bible on stage. I'm so sick of all those fucking preachers trying to tell me how to live. Go rot in your man-made hell, bigot cunts.

Stop blaming social media and the "tone" of what you said. You're talking about the written word, which last time I checked pre-dates the internet. In fact I believe you're a big fan of a particular book so the written word shouldn't be something new to you.

The fact that you seem to think that you can explain your prejudice against gays by saying, I'm paraphrasing here "I'm not anti gay, I'm anti anyone who doesn't agree with my interpretation of the bible" is utterly ludicrous and unwelcome in this day and age. People who protest gay funerals have their interpretation of the same book you read, don't let your righteousness convince you that you are not like them, you are.

Your "I love everyone" attempt to smokescreen your prejudice doesn't wash, ultimately you think everyone should be and think like you. So did Hitler. Yes I said it, it's extreme but you are an extremist and I have to abandon all usual ways of reasoning as you have abandoned reason yourself. Religion is very uncomfortable with reason, facts, science, proof. You know, things like that.

Speaking of Hitler, where was God's love for the Jews when he exterminated 13 million innocent people? Isn't everyone deserving of God's love? Or does he stand by and let us get on with our lives without interference? Thus condoning Hitler’s actions and making a mockery of prayer.

Acceptance - You need to accept what you said was wrong, not social media for twisting what you said, they were your tweets written by you. The fact that you don't understand what was so offensive is frankly scary and the sign of someone who's lost touch with the real world. Don't blame the internet, look in the mirror.

If you've read this far, well done, although you have got more time on your hands since you got the bullet from the band.

I don't love you, I pity you.

Amen!!! (No pun intended).

Tell 'im, Judge!!! \m/ Although he DID say he met Jesus...Still waiting for my high-five though....: (

If you still - in 2013 - believe that homosexuality is a "choice", you are A: either brainwashed by some religious cult, or B: just a fucking moron. Face it.

Here's some qualified reading by Canadian biologist, linguist, and author Bruce Bagemihl for your uneducated ass:

Biological Exuberance:
Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity

A Publishers Weekly Best Book
One of the New York Public Library's "25 Books to Remember" for 1999

"Homosexuality in its myriad forms has been scientifically documented in more than 450 species of mammals, birds, reptiles, insects, and other animals worldwide. Biological Exuberance is the first comprehensive account of the subject, bringing together accurate, accessible, and nonsensationalized information. Drawing upon a rich body of zoological research spanning more than two centuries, Bruce Bagemihl shows that animals engage in all types of nonreproductive sexual behavior. Sexual and gender expression in the animal world displays exuberant variety, including same-sex courtship, pair-bonding, sex, and co-parenting--even instances of lifelong homosexual bonding in species that do not have lifelong heterosexual bonding."

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So when homosexuality occurs frequently among instinct-driven animals, why shouldn't it also occur among another mammal species, such as humans?

Scientific facts can NEVER be denied or refuted - ESPECIALLY not by some vague metaphors from a 2000 year old book of unproven fairy tales.

Please get with the times and educate yourselves with a SCIENTIFIC book instead of a bible, religious nutjobs.

"Scientific facts can NEVER be denied or refuted" Fuck, son. This is the reason why people think atheists are assholes, because you're not even admitting science is subject to change. We only have very few scientific facts, a lot more working theories. If new evidence comes along, science will have to adapt and does so, yet you're proclaiming it can NEVER be denied or refuted? Go stick your head up your ass and let me know what irrefutable scientific facts you find.

"FOR TODAY's latest studio album, "Immortal", sold nearly 15,000 copies in its first week of release in the United Sattes to debut at position No. 15 on The Billboard 200 chart."

HOW? 15,000 is like, triple what most fairly big metal bands sell!!!

WHO IS BUYING THIS CRAP?

Looks like Cartman was right; Christian rock is the easiest, crappiest music in the whole world to make money with!!!

I love how all the homophobe Christians are complaining that somehow this guy was "persecuted" because err... he quit a band after making some anti-gay statements.

The idea that because their bigoted crap is unpopular and people object to it they are being "persecuted" is just the sort of warped idea of free expression one might expect from idiots that believe in invisible men in the sky. The whole world must stop and "respect" their opinions and never criticise them and everyone must agree with them, that is "freedom of speech" as far as the religious are concerned!

good. Fuck him, next.

This band would never have gotten a mention here if not for this 'controversy".
Slobbermouth once again just decided to throw a stone at the anthill and watch the ants scurry, with their creepy slimy comments, like most of the ones above.
I'm not even going to read them because I might spend too much time here lashing out than I want to, but the Christophobe little hypocrites like the one directly above (which I only read because it's on the screen as I type this), are not worth fighting with. I have better things to do.

Do you little sleazy creeps hate muslims too? No? They only execute gays in their part of the world, but they're "just fine" with you aren't they? Little sleazebag wastes of skin, human debris...

Weighing in on a frivolous news item and abusing others while claiming to be above those that do just that. I love the smell of irony in the morning, thanks :)

Hey, guys! He can't be bothered. Again.

Just like a human cockroach. Any article about gays, Mustaine, or Jesus and religion... here's the KarlMarxAbortion, skittering in like a cockroach and getting out before anyone can squash his superior intellect.

Jesus has no love for scum like you.

Maybe most Westerners hate on Christians because Christians and their book still influence our lives TODAY and have done so for many centuries. Muslims in their native lands, however, have very little influence on our daily lives. We don't see them work their magic up close and don't get lectured in the Koran as much as we know about the bible. But sure, use your default 'you can't hate me if you don't hate them' logic. You can't dislike Megadeth if you also don't dislike this random local band from Austin, Texas who want to overthrow Obama and sing about the UN trying to take their guns.

The usual bile-filled invective from this follower of the "religion of love and compassion". What on earth have Muslims got to do with anything? We don't live in Saudi Arabia. When we do, then we'll complain about the medieval Muslims. If the best defence the bigoted Bible brigade have is "well we're not as bad as Islamic tyrants", I think that nothing more needs to be said.

Only when the last religious nutcase is gone can the world ever be free.

SELF RIGHTEOUS, PIG HEADED, UNEDUCATED, HYPOCRITICAL, IGNORANT BASTARDS.

Your values of toleration and compassion know no bounds. God has taught you well. Judge everyone except yourself.

and your pro-tooled cookie monster metal sucks donkey balls.

I'm losing count over how many of these bands sound the same.

Learn to write a song already!

"I have better things to do."

Like what? Jack off to hentai? Clean the basement for your mum? Go to "Church" and worship "the Lord? Suck the priest's cock?

And if YouTube into some homosexuals on the street I hope they kick your fuckin ass.

Like the middle east doesn't have enough problems already without this flip flopping jesustard flying over there with a tray full of sandwiches to bribe and brainwash the down and ignorant.

Yeah, but bashing the evil gays sure gave them a lot of publicity, huh?

Now, he's off to the Middle East to spread his mind disease everywhere else since it didn't work too well with his gay bashing. Human cockroach...

Jesus never taught one thing about persecuting others. Never said one word. His entire message was about being non-judgemental, forgiving, tolerance, and peaceful solutions. The only bits in the OT about homosexuals are also surrounding by lovely bits about how your wife does not own her own body (her husband does) and children who don't mind their parents are to be stoned to death (because they are evil). It also says you must kill people who practice the occult.

Well, why aren't you doing this shit then, you braindead cunts? Ah, it's a lot easier to pick on the gays, isn't it? So tired of you cockroaches. Can't wait until your religion is as dead as your mind disease has made you. Scum of the earth.

Wow, these Jesus freaks are so comical and scary at the same time. Telling other people what they are supposed to do with their lives in the name of some fictional man in the sky.

You don't have the embrace the gay and lesbian lifestyle, but geez... it's none of your business. Let these people live how they feel they have to live to make them happy. I guess no one is choosing a lifestyle, that will get them attacked by some ignorant, stupid and intolerant people, just for laughs.

And " to put their plans in motion to enroll in Bible college, and to begin working toward full-time missions work in the Middle East".... lmao... the arrogance.... like middle east people are just waiting for some fools to show up to tell them how they should live and what god they should pray too.

"Homosexuality is a sin" preaches the religion that have male priests molesting children, mainly young boys.

He quit because the rest of the band came out to him. Go suck off a priest's dick, this will get you a place in heaven.

Asshole!

God is a hoax

Satan rules!

much for tolerance in this board.

holy shit..(pun intended)

It's pretty damn obvious that this post was put in here to incite moronic behavior by a few 12 year olds who are deathly afraid to come out of the closet. Stop trying too hard, you're making it too obvious.

Well so much for this:

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So BM, you post this bullshit, this is wucha get.

**

As for his Musician turned missionary. JC is VERY disappointed in you. So much for love thy neighbor bullshit.

Isn't life too fucking short in the first place? Why would you go out of your way to hate a certain group that does NOTHING to YOU. If there's a group that needs hating, it's the NRA and their death loving zealots. Just a suggestion.

Hate consumes, fuckers.

What the fuck is Christian metal anyway? Metal is about freedom and rebellion. Christianity is about blind obedience and conformity. What does one have to do with the other?

Metal is a genre of music. If Dream Theater write a concept album about waking up and going out for coffee and getting to a desk job, are they no longer metal?

They probably only help people in the middle east who convert and accept christ.

What a fucking tool.

This site is filled with anti-moral, gay loving homos. Most BM posters are worthless lowlives that love to be sodomized... just saying.

....and you just posted.

And you are most likely a narrow minded religious fool, the fact you believe you need religion to have morals is moronic.

I win

Nope, I'm not very religious at all... I just believe in having morals in society. And morals/values keep on getting worse as time goes on. Of course, being on a site filled with degenerates, you probably wouldn't understand.

The singer seems to be a stand up guy. If more young christian people acted like him instead of the guitar player they would be a much more tolerable bunch.

I never heard of this group before, but props to Mattie Montgomery for this video. This guy really seems sincere, and he even gave his own phone number! Never heard that one before. Cool dude...

If you fuckers actually believed the bullshit you spout.....you'd shut the fuck up....not say it....and you'd be A LOT MORE FUCKING BELIEVABLE!!! All you assholes do is spout statistics and bitch about someone else being happy about something. I say live and let live. Unless one of you fuckers wanna actually have the balls to say it to someone's face instead of from behind a fuckin' keyboard. And no...you haven't pissed me off. So you don't win. I'm this way EVERY FUCKIN' DAY.

"Unless one of you fuckers wanna actually have the balls to say it to someone's face instead of from behind a fuckin' keyboard." Let's see you have the balls to say that in my face and not on the internet, mofo.

That's my point EXACTLY. Stupid jackass. Learn to read.

Fuck religion. Period. I don't care how nice you are about it.

I believe in God (nondenominational), even it were a sin who the hell am I to condone or even judge someone who is gay, thats up to God, not I. So as with having friends and family that are gay, I treat them with the love and respect as with anyone else.

Ever notice how many Christians (particularly the intolerant, fundamentalist type tied to the political right wing) always present themselves as brave, always-ready-for-war, no-nonsense, pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps, fight tooth and nail for your beliefs, let's go hunt and kill animals (even though we can afford to buy food from the store), etc.---- AND YET, I've never seen a more frightened, paranoid, delusional, scared-to-death-of-anything-they're-not-familiar-with set of people in my life. Ever. "OMG! You disagree with my religious stance! You're persecuting me! The sky is falling! Wah!"

Ridiculous.

You speak the truth.

"your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behavior does"

/end debate

God is a poser. Hail Cronos! Lay down your souls to the gods rock 'n roll!

Ok, that's enough for today...

Same genetic make up, same identical biology. One is gay, one is not. It happens studies have shown. Once and for all your not born gay. It's a situation of nurture over nature. It's learned behavior. Deviant behavior. Personally I could care less but your not born with an instinctual need for Homosex, period!

Geez, maybe a gay person should/could answer this, but if it's a "learned behavior", then there should be no homosexuals at all. The norm is "heterosexual" behavior. So how and where would anyway learn homosexual behavior? Is there a school for it? Why would anyone want to learn homosexual behavior? Life is certainly much easier when you're part of the norm.

anyway = anyone

is designed for excretion of fecal matter only. You fags are ignoring simple biology..

I'm pretty sure female's mouths are also meant for the consumption of food and water, not for blowjobs, but I don't see anyone complaining about that.

Apples and oranges fagboy.

makes a great point. Again an example of behavior that deviates from the intended biological use. It was discovered that hey this action feels good, I will tell others about it. Wow this is cool, I like this. Neither the desire for oral sex or sex between two members of same sex is something you are inherently born with. Something, whatever it may be, brings that on after birth. We as humans and members of animal kingdom have a genetic predisposition to procreate. This can only occur biologically between a man and a women. Sorry if that doesn't align with the gay agenda of convincing everyone that they are no different than a person having been born black, yellow, brown or whatever color. I take offense to that, when many are discriminated against based on circumstances they could not choose for themselves.

Can't say I subscribe to Christian morelity Kudos to Mike for standing for his beliefs!
It is true that the State is trying to subvert religion to suit its purpose and he call it with the "fine tuning" of priest chosen to suit the homosexual agenda.

I am sick of xtian shit bands infiltrating the metal scene with their god delusion. Devil wears prada, as I lay dying among others who just fucking suck.

there are other examples of homosexuality in other animal life is such a tired attempt at an arguement. There is nothing as solid and undeniable as the identical twins studies. It can't be argued or discounted. I saw a video where a monkey was trying to get off using a frogs mouth, are you going to tell me now that inter species sex relationships among animals is something that occurs frequently and instinctually in the wild also. Nice try.

You still haven't answered. Where does one learn sexual behavior. If it is learned, then any offspring from heterosexual couples should turn out to be heterosexual. And any offspring of homosexual couples (which would not exist in the first place, since it is learned, as you say) should turn out to be gay.

Wherelse than from your parents or media, which shows you that "normal" behavior is heterosexual relations, would you learn homosexual behavior?

I didn't write it; I saw it on Facebook and reposted it in case Bori wanted to use it. Personally, I don't give a shit about gays one way or the other. I've got my own problems to deal with.

nice to see someone with intelligence on this board.

He can't answer you because his pea brain cannot produce any more valid responses; his feeble attempts at reasoning stops right where logic and common sense starts :-)

Shit, that's what you get for basing your entire "logic" on an ancient book of fables.

Besides, this fool Down-on-the-Farm is from the thick-ass bible belt of Texas - no surprise there :-)

Chicken or the egg. The end point is that the behaviour that deviated from the norm(faggotry) is not the optimal behaviour to reproduce ones genes.

Nowhere, because obviously you don't learn it. You're either heterosexual or homosexual, no?

And how many times do people actually do fuck to reproduce one's genes?? In the grand scheme of things the number of times people fuck to reproduce one's genes is a 1 digit percent number. The rest is a favourite pastime. The earth couldn't handle all those children coming out everytime someone fucks.

But COMPLETELY natural and normal you fucking idiots. Nobody "learns" sex, just like nobody "learns" to eat when they're hungry or sleep when they're tired.
It's called NATURAL INSTINCT.

"To consider homosexuality to be unnatural or abnormal is completely wrong. It’s not an ailment that can be cured; it’s not a disease that can be eradicated. It is not a mental condition that can be corrected through therapy. If your kid is homosexual, accept him/her. If you are a believer in God, consider the kid to be a creation of that God. If that God has created homosexuals in animals, so he did in humans."

And Down on Fire: You are UNBELIEVABLY ignorant.
he DNA of Identical twins are not 100% identical.

Get a grip you homophobic cavemen.

I give them credit for standing behind their beliefs and handling the situation the way they are.

So, pedophiles naturally are attracted to minors, does that make it right? Hell no..same with fags.