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DON DOKKEN On Writing DOKKEN Albums: 'Staying Within The Box Gets Frustrating For Me' - Nov. 10, 2012
Kim Thore of Über Röck recently conducted an interview with DOKKEN mainman Don Dokken. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow below.

Über Röck: "Broken Bones" is supposed to have the signature DOKKEN sound, and it seems that the sound you are known for is overshadowed by pop here in the U.S. Yet many of the bands of the '80s are releasing new material, so do you see a changing the tides for the future of rock music?

Dokken: I don't, honestly. You know, in England, rock is dead. It's all pop, Lady Gaga, old-school punk, techno, except for Castle Donington once a year, MOTÖRHEAD, METALLICA, you'll see bands like them. But in Europe, it's weird, we played with TWISTED SISTER a few years ago who were headlining and they don't even tour here anymore. SAXON plays big festivals in Europe, but don't here. ACCEPT just played here, and packed out the Grove [in Anaheim, California], they've got a new singer and have been hitting it for 18 months, I saw that one of their videos had like five million hits for a band that has been out of the loop for ten years. You see that and you say, wow, something is going on. We're playing next week with QUEENSRŸCHE, ACCEPT and Michael Schenker, and we're special guests under QUEENSRŸCHE. I think it's mostly packaging. People are putting out records to perpetuate their touring career, because, obviously, everyone knows that no one buys CDs or records anymore. There are no more gold records. In fact, I have a platinum album and the sun was hitting it and it got damaged and no one is making them anymore. If you're P Diddy now, you get a platinum CD. You can still buy them; they're just not the real deal. So for a record from 27 years ago, you're out of luck.

Über Röck: So what is new for you down the road? Are you looking to produce more CDs, more touring, etc.?

Dokken: This is probably our last DOKKEN record. Jon [Levin, guitar] and I are the main writers and we have decided this is it. This will probably be the last record I will do under the moniker of DOKKEN. I want to do other things. People expect a certain sound and I get that, if you like Cheerios and that's DOKKEN and if Raisin Bran is METALLICA, and you go to buy a METALLICA album and it's Cheerios, that's a problem — you want what you want. There's a few of my records where I stretched out, did some fusion, added different sounds and people didn't like it too much. They were like, "What is this?" "I want 'Tooth And Nail'," and my comment has always been, "Well, if you want 'Tooth And Nail', go buy it." I don't understand it, you know?! I understand where my bread is buttered and what fans expect, and that they like the sound of my voice. But think of THE BEATLES. What was their first album, "Meet The Beatles"? What if they kept writing "I Want To Hold Your Hand" over and over again, they would have never survived. They were constantly changing, and everyone was cool with it. But now BON JOVI, POISON, those bands, have to stick right to those guidelines or people are like, "Uh?"

Über Röck: It can be limiting after a while.

Dokken: Well, it's like I said in another magazine article can you imagine Monet painting the gardens of Giverny and this guy standing over his shoulder is saying "Not too much white. Put more red in there like the other painting. Wait a minute, the tree was on the left last time, this time it's on the right, can you change it back? Make it look like all of your other paintings, just change the color a little." As a painter, how can you put your soul and vision on a canvas and have someone telling you, "Don't spin out?" Picasso got away with it. People think of him as an abstract guy who painted sideways noses and cubism, and people don't realize his early work was very traditional. His work was normal, old-school portraits and paintings and then he kind of went off the deep end. [laughs] What would have happened if someone told him to keep doing what you have been doing? It's not going to fulfil me as an artist, and I get frustrated. Then, if you don't do what they want, the fans are disappointed and the record company gets frustrated, and they say, "Give us a DOKKEN record," and I don't know what that means. I just write what I write and hope that you like it. So I have those confines under the name of DOKKEN and I'd like to write an album and call it the MUD PUPPIES or something, you know? Whatever comes out of me comes out of me. Staying within the box gets frustrating for me. I'd like to not have those confines. I'm getting older, I've done 11 albums and I want to write different stuff.

Read the entire interview from Über Röck.

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posted by : Zambo
11/10/2012 4:08:26 PM
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By "staying within the box" he means "staying in key".


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COMMENT | Dokken
posted by : Riotass666
11/10/2012 4:09:37 PM
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rhymes with suckin'. Second worst singer of the hair band era, behind only Stephen Pearcy.


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COMMENT | nobody
posted by : laggerlugger
11/10/2012 4:12:26 PM
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do what you want to do but nobody but your dokken fans will care and only if it sounds like dokken. if you did not want to be put in a box then you should have changed it up after tooth and nail. oh but then you would not have sold as many records as you did right? shadow life and the other records you did in the 90's sucked because they did not sound like dokken and the fans you were trying to attract did not care because it had the dokken name.


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posted by : Sadistikexekution
11/10/2012 4:47:44 PM
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Dokken fronted Dokken about Dokken.


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posted by : rycheskull
11/10/2012 5:18:20 PM
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Its cool to grow & change, but when the change is too drastic, it alienates your original fans. Shadowlife was such a departure from anything before it & it seemed like an attempt to jump on the grunge bandwagon with very little harmonies, muddy guitar sound & not a lot of technical guitar soloing. Same with Warrant's grunge cds, Ultraphobic & Belly 2 Belly. Wildside's 2nd cd sounded like an Alice In Chains parody. Def Leppard's Slang is another example. These hair bands always whine about their fans not wanting to change & grow when they jumped headlong into grunge. If it seemed like they were really trying something new i/o just trying to adapt to the flavor of the day, the fans might give it a chance.


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COMMENT | hmmm....
posted by : JOHNNY SNOT
11/10/2012 6:29:29 PM
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one would think that not being able to sing would be way more "frustrating" to don than the stupid shit he's complaining about.


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COMMENT | Uhhh....
posted by : Ghostflames852
11/10/2012 6:55:34 PM
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We get it.

Don likes Cheerios.

A LOT.


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posted by : RiotAct666
11/10/2012 7:06:53 PM
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Good CD BB is.


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posted by : Evil_Twin
11/11/2012 1:58:00 AM
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You go girl!


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COMMENT | terrible
posted by : BSlash24
11/10/2012 7:18:01 PM
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analogies are silly...had Dokken come out and made crazy advances like the Beatles, did hardrock/metal, then kept growing, then yes, he'd have a point....BonJovi changing, like the Beatles? Its been one sell out after another, pop metal to pop country. BonJovi started bad and just regressed.

Who's buying that load of bunk?


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posted by : EL MENGH
11/10/2012 7:18:15 PM
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when the it thing is what youre doing then its ok to chg it....but you did back to back to back records at the time when you couldve chg it a lot and it wouldve been ok.......to change it 30 years later in an era where your music is not the it thing to play? well....all im saying is dont get upset if you sell under 5,000 mud puppy records...hey nowadays if you go over 2,000 is a good thing...isnt it???? lol at least for metal


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COMMENT | that whole "Hair Band" era
posted by : laynestillrocks
11/10/2012 7:33:08 PM
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has not aged well. I have a lot of albums from that era and rarely listen to em anymore. it's like a musical black hole that they can't escape from. when I listen to "old stuff", it's either Zeppelin, Rush, Priest, Sabbath, Maiden, etc....
But I can't think of any of those Sunset Strip bands that just don't look ......goofy


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COMMENT | 'RE: that whole'
posted by : Scatter
11/11/2012 10:00:17 AM
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Well there's your problem. Stop looking at them and start listening to them. Besides, I'm sure that you have pictures from the 80s that you're not too proud of either.


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posted by : Warlockaxe
11/10/2012 10:50:33 PM
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Dokken was great,and the new one just kicks ass. Great music, and great production. Shame it'll be the last one.


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posted by : saskmetal
11/11/2012 1:42:14 AM
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The new dokkem is surprisingly very good, after a couple 50/50 albums. Good to see don went out on a higher note with dokken. Great production, mainly good songs, good singing (in a lower range). Bad artwork. Should have used the cool artwork under the CD tray for the album cover. Too bad George or Jeff werent on it. Oh well, what can ya do.
I wonder if Mick played drums on it though? It says "percussion" Jimmy degrasso, and it might be a bit too complex sounding to be Mick. Does anyone know?


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posted by : Scatter
11/11/2012 2:12:42 AM
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I agree with him. He's been doing Dokken for over 25 years now and Rock sales have been dwindling for years. Even if he continued to do the same old same old for the next 10 years really how many albums is he going to sell? I think that he should do whats in his heart. If its good people will buy it. Maybe not the same fans as he had when he did Dokken but again if it's good people will buy it.


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COMMENT | Its too late
posted by : JPACHALEN
11/11/2012 4:16:38 AM
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in the game to change Mr.Dokken. If you haven't written the song yet your time has come and gone. Your band was better than most and why you didn't make the final jump to major headliners is left open to interpretation. You certainly had all the ingredients. Pilson always blew me away. I thought your 1990 solo album was killer. Very underrated. The Beatles were allowed to change because the musical climate was in a constant state of flux. There in a position all to themselves. You have nothing to be ashamed about. Your music resume is better than many of the 80's rock bands.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Its too late#'
posted by : dblbass
11/11/2012 4:42:30 AM
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Are you talking to Don Dokken? Cause he ain't reading it. No..wait....he MAY BE...


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posted by : robato
11/11/2012 6:38:15 AM
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"if you like Cheerios and that's DOKKEN and if Raisin Bran is METALLICA, and you go to buy a METALLICA album and it's Cheerios, that's a problem"

Im not a Dokken fan, but I like that this guy realizes this. I was a huge Metallica fan when they were thrash, but hate them now that they want to be black sabbath. Black Sabbath already exist and I can buy their records, I dont need to hear Metallica try to be them, I want to hear the sound that Metallica created.

While this guy used the Beatles as an example, it doesnt work....because the Beatles were defining rock genres as they went! Before them there was only a handful of rockabilly type genres of rock. Again...I probably wouldnt mind if Metallica went from thrash into a thrash reinvention that created a cool new genre....but they just went into a genre that already exists.

I dont know if that is what Dokken did, at least from the comments some guy said that he tried to become grunge when grunge was popular...and doing that is not inventing a new genre like the beatles were doing. You arent saying anything new and creative when parroting someone elses words, it just makes you lame.


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COMMENT | And...
posted by : jph
11/11/2012 6:59:50 AM
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Dokken with Jon Levin is Honey Nut Cheerios because Broken Bones Rules!


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COMMENT | Tooth and Nail was a good album
posted by : Autopstyturvey
11/11/2012 8:18:18 AM
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That was a pretty dumb - ass move to hang a platinum record where the sun is hitting it!


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COMMENT | He Kills Me
posted by : GtrDr
11/11/2012 4:14:41 PM
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He's comparing himself to Cheerios, The Beatles, Monet, and Picasso.
His solo record sounded like a Dokken record, because Don Dokken wrote it. He's been a bar band for the last 15 yrs.


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COMMENT | Rock Legends
posted by : RedZombie
11/11/2012 6:25:04 PM
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Dokken is awesome, they made some of the best metal albums of the 80's. Funny cheerios comparison. But Dokken sure ain't the Beatles, who practically were the first major popular band to play Hard Rock.


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posted by : rycheskull
11/11/2012 7:05:48 PM
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Btw, what happened to the remastered version of Breakin' The Chains? That's Don was working on when he found the old tapes that were released as From Conception Live which was awesome!


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COMMENT | Caged?
posted by : Mrspeed1977
11/12/2012 12:18:12 AM
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Don, be honest. You're moving on, because you're not making money any more, not because your caged. Thank God some people still want listen to your 80's stuff. You don't have any creativity any more. So if you don't wanna survived on you great music of the past, just retire. You just don't cut it in today rock.


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posted by : RipVelcro151
11/12/2012 6:58:36 PM
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Staying within the box probably does get frustrating when that's where you live....


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