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MEGADETH Bassist: 'DAVE MUSTAINE's Guitar Playing Was The Invention Of Thrash' - Nov. 8, 2012
ThePogg.com recently conducted an interview with MEGADETH bassist David Ellefson. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow below.

ThePogg.com: Having really driven a whole musical sound, do you feel that there was a pivotal point in your career that really influenced the direction that thrash metal would take?

Ellefson: It could be argued that MOTÖRHEAD were the earliest pioneers to point toward the genre but I think Dave Mustaine's guitar playing (even in METALLICA) was the invention of thrash. Thrash was really invented in the USA because it's the hybrid of punk and metal music. We were the first generation of musicians to like the SEX PISTOLS and BLACK SABBATH so as a result we drew from both punk and metal cultures to create our thrash. That can really be seen in any one of the "Big Four" bands and beyond.

ThePogg.com: This year sees the 20th anniversary of the release of "Countdown to Extinction" and you have a whole tour planned where you will play the album in its entirety. This is the second time you've done this after the 20th anniversary tour for "Rust In Peace". How do you feel the fans react to these whole album sets? Do you play the album in order? Do you bolster the set with other tracks?

Ellefson: I think they like these types of tours because they are different and the fans get to hear deep-cut album tracks instead of just the singles or the more popular songs each time we come through town. We do play the entire albums in order. We usually warm up the set with a few classics to get everyone in the "mood" and then we finish with a couple classics so everyone goes away with the memory of those songs in their heads. We realize that our fans come from such diverse age groups now that we can't just assume they have all heard those albums top to bottom. So having some of the classic hits scattered throughout the set helps those fans feel included in the show, too.

ThePogg.com: Your album "Risk" saw a marked change in musical direction and seems to have made the band — alongside some fans — quite uncomfortable. If you had your time again, what would you change in relation to the creation of that album?

Ellefson: I think it was a great record but because it said "MEGADETH" on it, people did expected a different sound, a sound they were more familiar with from its predecessors. With that said, I think it unwise to go back and change things, it's like you are apologizing for what you did when in fact that was exactly as it was supposed to be at that moment in time. Imagine if we went back and changed "Rust In Peace" because we moved forward to make "Countdown To Exctinction"?!! At some point, you learn something from every record you make and you move on to the next one with those experiences.

ThePogg.com: In 2002, Dave Mustaine experienced an injury to his left arm that left him unable to play and expert prognosis was that he would be unlikely to ever be able to play again. At that point he made the decision to end MEGADETH. This must have been a huge shock and disappointment to you. How did you feel at the time? What were your first thoughts about what to do next? And how do you feel the break away from MEGADETH helped you as a musician and as a person?

Ellefson: At first, I was shocked, but I knew I had two roads ahead of me; either fade away from music or move forward with new endeavours because I was young, ambitious and had many musical statements yet to make. As much as it wasn't expected, my time away from the band really helped me grow as a musician and as a man on my own two feet. Band life is unique because it requires the individuals in it to maintain specific roles in order for the band to operate. However, over time, people change and often grow out of those roles, so those moments can provide opportunities to rediscover your passions. In hindsight, I think the time Dave had by himself to re-align MEGADETH the way he intended it to be was good for him, and for the band. Additionally, my time away from the group allowed me to develop aspects of my life that I couldn't have done while recording and touring like we were doing for so many years. In many ways, those matters were critical for my growth in order to mature and really bring something effective back to the group upon my return in 2010. Looking back on it all now, it all seems to have worked out pretty good for everyone.

Read the entire interviewe from ThePogg.com.

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posted by : Jack Tripper
11/8/2012 1:16:19 PM
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What a sycophant.


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posted by : handofsutekh
11/8/2012 1:17:31 PM
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you misspelled NWOBHM


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posted by : Jaehaus
11/8/2012 1:20:01 PM
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no.


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posted by : vanbasten6247
11/8/2012 1:22:34 PM
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"We were the first generation of musicians to like the SEX PISTOLS and BLACK SABBATH".

Looks like arrogance is contagious.


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posted by : BSlash24
11/8/2012 1:34:07 PM
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my grand parents were way into the pistols.


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posted by : vanbasten6247
11/9/2012 1:46:41 AM
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My uncle (which is a musician) was a huge fan from the Pistols too, along with Sabbath, Focus and other stuff he found while studying in London, he lived it (lucky bastard ;) and he is approaching his 70's right now; I don't think Ellefson is that old. Besides, other bands (well known) have cited Sabbath or the Pistols as a influence, older than Megadeth, anyway.

Wow, your grand parents, isn't that something cool?


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posted by : cma3585
11/8/2012 1:27:02 PM
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The groundwork of the thrash riff was laid down by Iommi on Symptom Of The Universe.


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posted by : aztec
11/8/2012 2:56:48 PM
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Agreed!


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posted by : Scatter
11/8/2012 4:10:38 PM
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If you're going to include Sabbath then IMO you also need to consider;

Led Zeppelin's Communication Breakdown (1969)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtwVQlWjBvA

The Who - Young Man Blues (1970)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g30nwCpyaA (1:32)

Queen - Stone Cold Crazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnGaEk0rZdU








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posted by : loser
11/8/2012 1:27:52 PM
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... there's an old song called "symptom of the universe" by a small-time band that used to go by the name the polka tulk blues band ...


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COMMENT | Er...
posted by : MetalMountainMan
11/8/2012 1:28:50 PM
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No... I think you're very good, Ellefson, but you're full of shit on this one.


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posted by : usedillusion93
11/8/2012 1:41:38 PM
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Hope they do a 20th anniversary tour of Youthanasia when the time comes. Say what you want about this album but this is probably my favorite Megadeth record. The guitar tone is heavy as shit and the songwriting in songs like 'Elysian Fields' and 'I Thought I knew It All' is impeccable.


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posted by : 6stringking
11/8/2012 1:51:39 PM
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Right.....


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posted by : nancyboy
11/8/2012 1:55:14 PM
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Why does noone ever ask him why he thought Dave faked his arm injury to begin with??


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posted by : npf1
11/9/2012 9:16:56 AM
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Perhaps the pictures of Dave's arm in braces? I'm not Mustaine fan, but his arm injury is pretty decently documented.


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posted by : stevemcsteve
11/8/2012 1:58:53 PM
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Thrash Metal was a movement staged by Obama.


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posted by : Skanna
11/8/2012 2:06:08 PM
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motorhead is not the forerunner of thrash, judas priest is ... e.g. freewheel burning.


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posted by : The Barnacle
11/8/2012 2:09:36 PM
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He might have been one of the musicians that shaped up the genre, but he wasn't the first one, nor is his playing a clear symbol of thrash metal as we knew it in the early 80's.

Dude above saying Iommi shaped it up with Symptoms of the Universe: No.

Black Sabbath clearly shaped heavy metal, which in turn influenced bands such as Judas Priest, which in turn influenced bands in the early 80's to go faster. And yeah, Metallica was certainly one of them. So was Mustaine (mostly while in Metallica).


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COMMENT | WRONG!
posted by : s c o r n f u l
11/8/2012 2:22:39 PM
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You cannot trace thrash to one song or one person. I know Iommi is the godfather of metal, but before Sabbath there were many notable proto-thrash songs.

Beatles - Helter Skelter
Kinks - You Really Got Me
MC5 - Kick out the Jams
Led Zeppelin - Communication Breakdown
Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog

Dave Fucking Mustaine is NOT the originator. He is a VERY important person in the history of the genre and has made substantial contributions, but fucking please.


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COMMENT | hahaha
posted by : dave2099
11/8/2012 2:27:18 PM
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I love how blabbermouth always places the most ridiculous picture hey can find of the musician the note is about....


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posted by : Skanna
11/8/2012 2:29:17 PM
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I guess if you added a fast picked low E string between the G and A You really got me it would be a thrash song ..... at a stretch.

Don't forget Bob Dylan, the first thrash acoustic guitar player.


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COMMENT | I think he means Hetfield...
posted by : Black waterPark
11/8/2012 2:29:47 PM
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Metallica was a band before Mustaine's puppy got kicked.


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posted by : MetalPriestFan
11/8/2012 3:13:54 PM
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He didn't say Mustaine invented fast playing. He was talking about thrash metal. I think Metallica together invented it.


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COMMENT | No.
posted by : orionjustice
11/8/2012 3:24:58 PM
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Just no.



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posted by : pingu53
11/8/2012 3:33:28 PM
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Dont forget Queens "Stone Cold Crazy" guys, thats a proto-thrash riff right there


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posted by : Double Shit-Talkin Jive
11/8/2012 3:47:40 PM
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MegaDorks...


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posted by : Aces_High99
11/8/2012 4:01:32 PM
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According to Mustaine himself, thrash was actually invented in Kenya by Barack Hussein Obama's true father, Malcolm X.


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posted by : sillycornelius
11/8/2012 4:16:20 PM
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Venom, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHmzFVDjVnM


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posted by : Battle_Magic
11/8/2012 4:27:56 PM
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He's got a point. Dave Mustaine IS that iconic 80s thrash guitar sound. All of those movie soundtracks, those game soundtracks that have generic thrash metal tracks on them - all of that just screams Mustaine. Prior "thrashers" were too bluesy and non-technical; Mustaine managed to take that bluesy base and add a lot of interesting progressions to the riffs and melodies, all the while keeping a fast, thrashy beat with that characteristic speed-precision that prior to him just wasn't really a big part of "thrashy" music.


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posted by : Sadistikexekution
11/8/2012 4:28:59 PM
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Fuck both Daves, one for being an ass, the other for being a kisser.


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COMMENT | Thrash has ruined metal
posted by : JJJB
11/8/2012 4:33:19 PM
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PERIOD


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posted by : ifuctgwynethpaltrow
11/8/2012 4:33:28 PM
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did u deepthroat mustaine on every show, or just for this interview......

ever heard of scott ian or testament

dumbass


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posted by : Buster_Hymen
11/8/2012 4:40:00 PM
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Conservative Thrash!


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posted by : Acacia70
11/8/2012 4:52:58 PM
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thrash, as a genre, started with metallica, mustaine was a huge part of that.

easy.


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posted by : DMR
11/8/2012 5:13:36 PM
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I love Megadeth, but I never really considered them thrash. To me they were more prog metal maybe with a thrash element simply because of the intricate guitar work.


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posted by : Leonard Rockstein
11/8/2012 5:23:04 PM
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"Hocus Pocus" by Focus also has a fantastic proto-thrash sound


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posted by : vanbasten6247
11/9/2012 6:26:55 AM
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Indeed.


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posted by : kingnothing23
11/8/2012 5:35:36 PM
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you're taking your ass kissing way too far Junior


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posted by : suckingchestwound
11/8/2012 6:13:11 PM
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Translation: "It's nice to be back in Megadeth and actually making a living."


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COMMENT | Hetfield, King, Skolnick, Ian.
posted by : obi wan
11/8/2012 8:15:24 PM
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Those are the names that defined thrash at the beginning and are still just as relevant. Dave is just a washed up hack.


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COMMENT | Wait, hasn't Mustaine moved to Singapore already?
posted by : obi wan
11/8/2012 8:18:34 PM
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He made us a promise, that if we were all good little boys and girls (and elected Obama) that he would move to Singapore. Well, what's up Dave? Don't welsh on us!


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posted by : RiotAct666
11/8/2012 8:44:01 PM
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Mustaine must be packing his bags and heading to Singapore as we speak. Obama won! Dave lost face the facts....


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posted by : MetalHeadd
11/8/2012 8:49:33 PM
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Huh? I thought Al Gore started thrash


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posted by : npf1
11/9/2012 9:19:36 AM
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No, all Al Gore did was make that odd documentary, Get Thrashed: An unconvenient history of Thrash


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COMMENT | Meh
posted by : Whiplash
11/8/2012 8:50:43 PM
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Considering how many bands were taking those same influences back then and turning them into 'thrash' it's hard to say who started it. There was an article I read that said Overkill came along before Metallica but everyone knows they didn't get an album out until years later. In any event, Mustaine wasn't even the first guitarist in Metallica, so while he is an important footnote, he didn't start anything.


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COMMENT | Coming from the guy...
posted by : i6z6a6n
11/8/2012 9:35:52 PM
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...who wanted to sue Mustaine for royalties when Megadeth "disbanded" (yes, this is a smartass-sarcastic use of the word, due to MegaLames enormous record for trash talking).


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COMMENT | He's right.
posted by : HammerOfAstraea
11/9/2012 1:34:40 AM
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But, Possessed are the only Thrash Metal band that ever existed, so this may not be true.


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posted by : carnagehasnorules
11/9/2012 4:23:00 AM
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Venom???? Exodus????? Gary fucking Holt???


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COMMENT | Sure thing,
posted by : Your Mom's Best Friend
11/9/2012 5:30:25 AM
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Mustbeinsane invented thrash, with a little help from his friend and mentor Rick "Frothy" Santorum.


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COMMENT | I think everyone forgot...
posted by : BiorythmicDrift
11/9/2012 11:43:18 AM
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about Anvil. They started with the chug riffing before most...including Mustaine. I think Mustaine gave thrash rifing its final hue in terms of speed and technique.


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