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GEOFF TATE Allowed To Use QUEENSRŸCHE Name Until Lawsuit With Ex-Bandmates Is Settled - Oct. 20, 2012
According to Christa Titus of Billboard.com, a Washington state judge ruled on Friday (October 19) that singer Geoff Tate — who was fired from the Seattle progressive rock band QUEENSRŸCHE after fronting it for three decades — may tour with his own version of the group until a lawsuit he filed against three former bandmates is settled.

Guitarist Michael Wilton, drummer Scott Rockenfield and bassist Eddie Jackson requested a motion for partial summary judgment September 21 to stop Tate from using the QUEENSRŸCHE name and associated imagery as the case proceeds to trial.

"QUEENSRŸCHE is disappointed in the denial of the motion to prevent our former vocalist from using our name, but we respect the court's decision to do so. That said, we apologize for any confusion to our fans that a second entity sharing our name may cause," Wilton, Rockenfield and Jackson said in a statement to Billboard.com. "We look forward to seeing all of you on the road and bringing you new QUEENSRŸCHE music in the near future. Thank you all for your continued support, and for now we will just have to let the rocking do the talking."

Wilton, Jackson, Rockenfield and Parker Lundgren (guitar) announced on June 20 that they were parting ways with Geoff Tate and recruiting Todd La Torre of CRIMSON GLORY as his replacement. The new QUEENSRŸCHE lineup previously played two shows in their home city of Seattle under the name RISING WEST.

Tate, who still owns his 25% stake in the QUEENSRŸCHE corporations, claims he was illegally fired from the band because of "blind greed" masked as "creative differences," and that his former bandmates' attempt to carry on as QUEENSRŸCHE with a new singer will "lead to the destruction of the QUEENSRŸCHE name and brand … by failing to maintain the level of professionalism and interaction with media and the fan base as compared to Tate's efforts during the past 30 years." He and and his wife, Susan, QUEENSRŸCHE's former manager, want the judge to award them the rights to the band's name in exchange for Tate paying Jackson, Wilton and Rockenfield the fair market value for their interests in the QUEENSRŸCHE companies. Wilton, Rockenfield and Jackson filed a countersuit against the Tates in which they accused Geoff of creative obstruction and violent behavior, and Susan Tate of questionable business practices.

In their motion for partial summary judgment, Wilton, Rockenfield and Jackson disputed Tate's claim he had a reasonable expectation to remain in QUEENSRŸCHE forever, explaining that the fact that "he engaged in a fully admitted assault on his bandmates at a Sao Paulo, Brazil performance [in April 2012 served] as fully reasonable grounds for terminating him as lead singer."

If the case goes to trial, the date is set for November 18, 2013.

On September 2, Tate announced that he was launching his own version of QUEENSRŸCHE with RATT drummer Bobby Blotzer, former QUIET RIOT, OZZY OSBOURNE and WHITESNAKE bassist Rudy Sarzo and former MEGADETH and KING DIAMOND guitarist Glen Drover. Also on board in the new group are returning QUEENSRŸCHE guitarist Kelly Gray — who played with the band from 1998 until 2001 and also produced several of their albums — and keyboardist Randy Gane, who has toured and recorded with QUEENSRŸCHE and Geoff's solo group in the past.

In a recent interview with TheMetalCircus.com, Geoff Tate stated about his split with his former bandmates, "It's ridiculous and really bad business to take a very successful band, like QUEENSRŸCHE, for example, that's been very successful for 30 years, and tear the whole thing apart and tarnish the name and devalue the brand name and then try to proceed. It makes no business sense at all. Especially at the age that all of us are. I mean, realistically, we have probably less than ten years of productive work ahead of us. So why on earth would you take something very successful, something that works very well, and destroy it? It makes no sense at all. It's greed, really. They wanted to make more money. And so they've been very busy about justifying all of their actions by putting out all this information that, oh, I can't sing anymore, I don't wanna sing heavy metal, I don't wanna sing the old material — paint this picture to justify their actions."

He added, "My version of QUEENSRŸCHE has had no problem getting shows. In fact, I'm getting guarantees that are equal to what QUEENSRŸCHE was getting before. So where I'm getting an equal amount of money for my show, they are not — they are getting very little money for their shows. In fact, I don't believe they're gonna be even able to tour. They might be able to go out and do a weekend show here and weekend show there, but they can't get enough money to support doing an entire tour. So it's very tragic that they've done this, and very disappointing and very hurtful, to me, and to the fans, that they've been motivated by greed and jealousy to pursue this. And I wish them the best of luck, 'cause they're gonna need it. It's a very tough market out there."

Asked if he thinks the other guys' decision to kick him out of the band will backfire at some point, Geoff said, "Oh, it's already backfired. They're hurting pretty badly financially. In fact, they're calling my attorneys daily begging to come to some sort of mediation, because they're realizing now that they can't make a living doing what they're doing. They can get on the Internet all day and say what a bad person I am and spread all these lies about my inabilities or my dominating them and all this, and that's all very well and good, but it doesn't pay the bills. They've actually got to produce something — they've gotta make a record and they've gotta tour. And they can't financially tour, 'cause nobody wants them. I mean, first off, the people that are talking in support of them are a very small number of QUEENSRŸCHE fans, a very small segment of the big pie, so to speak. And also, Michael, I know, and Scott both have multiple Internet accounts and they go online and pose as different people and they go on Facebook and all these different social medias and they are on a smear campaign of trying to create a public opinion in a negative way for me. And it's backfiring on them now. I think people are getting tired of reading all this negative stuff. And any smart person, any person with any kind of intelligence, can just look at what they're saying and see that it's riddled with inaccuracies, exaggerations and downright lies. Saying that I don't sing the old material is a direct lie. I mean, you can look on the Internet and see the setlists from different shows. So any smart person can do that."



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posted by : Alex101
10/20/2012 9:19:07 AM
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Queensrÿche should have broken up after Chris DeGarmo left the band back in '98. Ever since he left, they have never been the same without him.


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posted by : painkiller68
10/20/2012 12:46:04 PM
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Groan....geezus the DeGarmo complaint again...


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posted by : mister mish
10/20/2012 3:51:30 PM
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Queensryche would indeed have broken up if it was not for Geoff Tate holding the band together for the past decade plus.


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posted by : The Metal Weasel
10/20/2012 9:08:46 PM
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The only thing Geoff ever accomplished Susan/Miranda/Geoff was strongarm Queensryche into an abyss of mediocrity & obscurity & then spit on them when they said they'd had enough. Seriously, what the fuck do you think your lies are accomplishing here? Do you honestly think anyone is going to back your bald spitting gardengnome & his joke of a covers band just because you vote down dissenters & spout your propaganda? How fucking stupid do you think we are? Moron.


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posted by : Evil_Twin
10/20/2012 9:42:15 PM
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Hey mister mish. Go fuck yourself!


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COMMENT | Woop de do
posted by : JJJB
10/20/2012 9:33:48 AM
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We still won't move the pool table out of the way for him no matter what he calls it.


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posted by : derpdederp
10/20/2012 9:40:59 AM
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Oh look another Jeff Tit post


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posted by : marone jabrone
10/20/2012 9:50:30 AM
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Tate sucks.


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posted by : Furywhip
10/20/2012 9:54:40 AM
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Will the real Queensryche please step forward!


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posted by : bigsled
10/20/2012 10:13:13 AM
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Congratulations Geoff !!
I think neither should be allowed to use the name after this is all said and done..... If Geoff had wanted to take the band contemptorary starting around 1994/ HITNF w/ DeGarmo ( which they did and Geoff continued it) the rest of the band should have left some 17 years ago. Claiming that they have been held hostage all these years and could do nothing about it is nonsense ! Now , instead of having the balls to start a new band with a new name they want to carry the name strictly for a financial standpoint . Ditto for Geoff too..
Looking forward to seeing one of the greatist hard rock vocalist of all time on nov. 6th breaking down the queensryche catalog with his version of the songs instead of seeing a clone singer with no identity..


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posted by : ParasiteLost
10/20/2012 12:51:00 PM
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Breaking down is the right choice of words. His bus is likely to break down and if he actually makes it to the stage, you'll hear his voice is broken down.


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posted by : HexOmega
10/20/2012 10:15:28 AM
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Not gonna matter what name either use. Geoffe Taint's career is a total turd. I do think this new band should just give in to a new name and have the label do the best to promote it because it'll be a fresh start for the rest of the members and get far away from the sinking turd that is Queensryche


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posted by : RainOnTheSabbath
10/20/2012 10:21:32 AM
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Bullshit move.


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COMMENT | Not Interested in Tate
posted by : TexasMetHead
10/20/2012 10:24:50 AM
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I just found out he is going to be in town later this year for a concert. Personnaly, I am not interested in paying to see this guy, hear his solo work or anything else he does. As a fan of Queensryche since the early 80's, I am done with the guy based on his actions. Just speaking for myself, and not downing fans that support Geoff. The footage of the recent Queensryche San Antonio concert rocked. Personnaly, I am anxious to see Queensryche with Wilton, La Torre, Rockenfeld, Jackson and Lundgren.


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COMMENT | Mr contradiction for slander
posted by : Mutilator
10/20/2012 10:27:57 AM
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"It's ridiculous and really bad business to take a very successful band, like QUEENSRŸCHE, for example, that's been very successful for 30 years, and tear the whole thing apart and tarnish the name and devalue the brand name and then try to proceed. It makes no business sense at all.... So why on earth would you take something very successful, something that works very well, and destroy it? It makes no sense at all.

It's greed, really. They wanted to make more money.


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posted by : skweetis
10/20/2012 10:34:17 AM
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Both sides just shut the fuck up and make music. You both built the QR name and history so either use it or don't use it. JUST SHUT UP ABOUT IT. I love Blabbermouth but really wish we could block out these kicking-a-dead-horse stories. It's not news, it's whining. PS Geoff, might want to lay off on the Just For Men. That's way too dark of a shade for you.


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posted by : Nicko's Nose
10/20/2012 10:39:38 AM
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Tate is such a liar. I really don't understand the people who still like him.


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posted by : the24thfret
10/20/2012 10:42:44 AM
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I don't think there'll be much coming from either band. As much as I love the first few QR-Albums, I can't imagine that they will release something that will make a similar impact. Sure, everyone wants to hear the old hits and stuff, but they are in the unfortunate spot that new songs in the old style will just sound terribly outdated, no matter how good the songwriting may be.

And Geoff Tate's version of QR is just going to be dead boring.


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posted by : Pod
10/20/2012 10:58:19 AM
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That's pretty retarded right there.


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posted by : rubthebuddha
10/20/2012 11:10:28 AM
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This is gonna be really confusing when I go to see a metal band, and end up hearing Broadway show tunes. WTF. They have a CONTRACT that dictates that he is not in control of the name. That's a pretty pathetic ruling. He's done enough damage to the band entity with his shitty songwriting over the last few years. Just let the real metal version of QR continue with Todd LaTorre. Give it up Geoff, not many people want to see you continue to kill the legacy of this once (and future) great band.


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posted by : DMR
10/20/2012 11:11:49 AM
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LOL Geoff tate is so full of shit. Go check out his facebook page, gigs getting cancelled left and right. yeah i'm real sure they're "begging" for mediation.

Interesting how "blind greed" could be a motivating factor in firing him when QR hasn't been any kind of draw in at least 15 years.


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posted by : DMR
10/20/2012 11:16:27 AM
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Also funny how Geoff says he has no problem getting shows, and yet we've seen no evidence oh is band actualy playing any shows. Meanwhile, we've seen plenty of clips of the other band playing. Aside from the cancellations highlighted on his facebook page, check this out:

http://www.metalsucks.net/2012/10/19/things-are-on-the-up-and-up-for-geoff-tate/

These are the kind of gigs Tate is getting LOL!!


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posted by : mister mish
10/20/2012 3:49:31 PM
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Thanks for posting that. It's a great example of how Geoff is willing to do shows anywhere as long as it supports a good cause and he gets to do what he loves - play music and entertain his fans.

There is no greed involved in Geoff Tate's decisions unlike with certain musicians he's worked with in the past.


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posted by : rubthebuddha
10/20/2012 11:18:41 AM
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Oh and, Geoff, YOU are the one that's made it clear you don't want to sing metal. Just take a listen to ALL of your new songs, if you can bear to do so. NOT METAL. Watching one of my childhood musical heroes devolve into a lying, backstabbing greedy sack of shit is really eye opening. If you were actually the primary reason people went to watch QR, you'd be a successful solo artist like Halford or Dickinson. But you are not, because your personal selections in music and the direction you pointed the band SUCKED. Talk about your bad decisions...


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posted by : Leonard Rockstein
10/20/2012 11:21:46 AM
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Behold the Blabbermouth Feeders


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posted by : Nicko's Nose
10/20/2012 11:23:39 AM
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It's not that he doesn't want to sing metal, it's that HE CAN'T SING METAL ANYMORE.


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posted by : Nicko's Nose
10/20/2012 11:50:41 AM
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Anyone else thinks this looks like Geoff Tate: http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/252/me-gusta.jpg


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COMMENT | QUEENSRYCHE
posted by : monkeytime
10/20/2012 12:04:14 PM
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QUEENSRYCHE is GEOFF TATE.

He has been the driving force of the band since 1999, and since then they have put out some amazing music and done incredible tours.

The 'other' 'fake' queensryche fronted by the same guy from the 'Rock Star' movie and some kid playing DeGarmo's part is a JOKE.

Geoff Tate's Queensryche has real power players, and true talent behind it.



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COMMENT | 'RE: QUEENSRYCHE'
posted by : Evil_Twin
10/21/2012 6:09:32 AM
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You do realize the singer who got replaced in the "Rock Star" movie was a queer, right? Does this mean Geoff will be staring in his own version of Riverdance soon? If you're gonna pull out movie references you might wanna remember the entire movie dumbass!


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posted by : Nicko's Nose
10/20/2012 12:05:49 PM
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and Queensryche has been terrible since 1999...


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posted by : Scatter
10/20/2012 1:39:16 PM
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Last I checked Rockenfield, Wilton and Jackson were on those albums too.

So did these three really have no creative contributions to the band over the last dozen years (as Tate claims) or are the equally responsible for the albums which many of you think are turds?

Which is it, its got to be one of the two. And simply giving this post a thumbs down doesn't invalidate that fact.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : Evil_Twin
10/20/2012 7:20:26 PM
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They are indeed responsible for the shitty albums as well. And they're working to fix that RIGHT NOW! I, for one, am very happy about that!


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posted by : Scatter
10/21/2012 11:59:18 AM
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We'll find that out for sure if and when they ever release anything original.


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posted by : RiotAct666
10/20/2012 6:49:23 PM
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1990 it started the downfall. Your 9 years too early.


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posted by : RiotAct666
10/20/2012 6:50:10 PM
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After* meant to say.


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posted by : RockRoadie1x
10/20/2012 10:04:48 PM
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1990 started their downfall? Let me send you a copy of Empire. Better yet, if you don't own that one, you shouldn't even be posting on a Queensryche thread. Empire is still a fucking great album today, 22 years later.


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posted by : DMR
10/20/2012 12:41:15 PM
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@monkeytime
"He has been the driving force of the band since 1999"

That explains why Queensryche albums have been utter shit since at least 1999. Nobody wants to hear anything from QR post-Promised Land. NOBODY.


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posted by : painkiller68
10/20/2012 12:47:27 PM
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You can't speak for everyone. You're not everyone.


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posted by : Evil_Twin
10/20/2012 7:21:44 PM
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Actually, he is everyone!


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posted by : Nicko's Nose
10/20/2012 12:53:40 PM
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Well, he can speak for everyone who doesn't like terrible music.


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posted by : RighteousAct666
10/20/2012 1:07:08 PM
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Between the Harlem Globetrotters tour bus & a wanna-be all star line up, I'd say Geoff is already on his way to being the laughing stock of metal history. Time to check yourself Geoff. I gave his line-up 2 months before a member change. Watch.


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posted by : DMR
10/20/2012 1:36:56 PM
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You mean you're not dying to see Queensratt live?!


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posted by : ndirish75
10/20/2012 2:07:44 PM
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It is beyond me why the hell everybody is still talking about this no-talent, ego-maniacal douche bag. Are we that hard up for rock stars and front men. Another metal site was talking about Axl Rose and Sebastian Bach, like those two are big news. Bach had 3 or 4 decent songs, that he didn't write, with a band that he was thrown into to make money. Axl, or Tate for that matter, haven't done jack shit since the early 90's. For the love of God, please start talking about other, more talented, up and coming artists. Instead of these old dinosaur farts...


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posted by : trickbunny
10/20/2012 3:47:39 PM
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Seriously LMFAO right now. Tate brags about how successful his version of QR is, and then the first pic under the story is a flyer for his show at Empire. I've played at Empire. The main floor in front of the stage can hold maybe 200. You might be able to squeeze 400 in the whole place. Woooo, big time.


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COMMENT | Shouldn't be allowed to use it at all
posted by : RedZombie
10/20/2012 3:58:08 PM
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Since he is the one fucking around with the music. Again, terrible picture.


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posted by : Firewind
10/20/2012 5:07:10 PM
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agree, talk about new music. Problem is a lot of new singers are lame and dont cause as much drama. The world needs a new GG Allin or Jim Morrison. Axl was close, and the Tate stuff just causes controversy among the old hesher and prog geek crowd. We SHOULD be focusing on new music though, killer new albums from (old bands i acknowledge) Enslaved and Wintersun, among others. As far as mainstream rock goes, nothing as exciting as Axl has come out for awhile..the underground I'm sure has some crazy fuckers out there, but mainstream rock its all creed/nickelback/nu metal clones on "solid rock" stations. Even Velvet Revolver and a lot of Slash's stuff sounds closer to that shit than the "classic" sound.


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COMMENT | Yay!!!
posted by : the beast777
10/20/2012 5:34:58 PM
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2 Queensryches!!! Awesome!!!!


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posted by : Thedevilmademedoit71
10/20/2012 5:45:08 PM
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This whole is so embarrassing for both parties
But for Geoff to have his wife and step daughter jump online and bad mouth the other guys is ridiculous
Delusional moron
The fans will vote with their wallets Tainty
Anyone with ears can tell your "music" is beyond bollocks

Insania ia ia ia ia


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posted by : RiotAct666
10/20/2012 6:50:50 PM
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BS move. No one should be allowed to use the name.


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posted by : Evil_Twin
10/20/2012 8:40:20 PM
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And your parents shouldn't have been allowed to breed. What's your point?


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COMMENT | Dear Team Tate
posted by : Voice Of Sanitry
10/20/2012 8:08:33 PM
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There is such a thing as bad publicity.

There really is.

When what you're publicising is a bitter, washed up, delusional, mentally unstable, loser.

And a sore loser at that.

Stop posting your nothingness stories on here twice a day, it's never gonna convert into sales or validate your bullshit stance.

We know. All Geoffs ex-fans know by now. That's why we're ex-fans.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Dear Team Tate'
posted by : Scatter
10/20/2012 9:15:46 PM
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Honestly all the bitterness that I've seen seems to come from the Tate haters. I really haven't seen any come from Tate himself in a while now. I'm even seeing more bitterness from his ex band mates then from Tate.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Dear Team Tate'''
posted by : Evil_Twin
10/21/2012 12:12:55 AM
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Where are you seeing "more bitterness from his ex band mates"?


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COMMENT | yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnn
posted by : EL MENGH
10/20/2012 9:40:19 PM
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Both versions of QR suck......doesnt matter if its 2002 or 2012....all this back and forth amounts to what? who gets to play the old tunes another 100 times live? lol


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posted by : stevemcsteve
10/20/2012 10:00:45 PM
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I'm done with both sides unless they release new music soon.


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posted by : mister mish
10/20/2012 11:32:46 PM
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While not technically a Queensryche album, Geoff Tate will be releasing a new solo album in two weeks entitled Kings & Thieves. In addition to the voice of Queensryche, the album also features Queensryche members Kelly Gray and Randy Gane.


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posted by : Evil_Twin
10/21/2012 12:28:08 AM
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Yes, I highly recommend everyone listen to Geoff Tate's new solo album Kings & Thieves. It will tell you everything you need to know!


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posted by : saskmetal
10/21/2012 1:02:38 AM
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Mister mish needs to stop already. Will someone please shove something long and hard down this Tate woman's throat? Fuck.


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COMMENT | I completely refute the assault charges
posted by : Geoff Taint
10/21/2012 4:10:10 AM
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Scott Rockenfield was dehydrating terribly on-stage. Despite repeated attempts to get help, I resorted to what I do best - I spat on Scott repeatably which immediately re-hydrated him, thus saving him from near-death.

I'm 81% Insania.


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COMMENT | One way to settle this
posted by : TJ_1979
10/21/2012 4:31:03 AM
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Someone needs to be kung fu kicked again!


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posted by : juanneman
10/22/2012 4:41:50 AM
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Did you notice the leaflet of Geoff pointing with his finger at the Queensrÿche logo? Curious.


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