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BILL WARD: 'If There's Some Longevity With BLACK SABBATH, Then I'd Like To Be A Part Of It' - Oct. 2, 2012
Original BLACK SABBATH drummer Bill Ward — who in May announced again that he was declining to join his former bandmates for their scheduled 2012 dates, as well as the recording of a new album, due to a contractual dispute — was interviewed for "Black Sabbath And The Birth Of Heavy Metal", a six-part series presented by Vice.

Speaking about his relationship with the other members of SABBATH and his future plans, Ward told EAGLES OF DEATH METAL frontman Jesse Hughes, who is presenting the show (see video below), "There have been some very uncomfortable situations in the last six months. We'll see how that works out. But I stand for myself today. As much as I love them…

"I'll always play; that's my life."

He added, "If there's some longevity with BLACK SABBATH, then I'd like to be a part of it.

"I wanna play hard rock music. I wanna play loud drums. I love playing with Terry [SABBATH bassist Geezer Butler], I love playing with Ozz [SABBATH singer Ozzy Osbourne] and I love playing with Tony [Iommi, SABBATH guitarist]. When Tony opens up with huge chords, I still get the same shiver up my back that I got when we were 18-year-old kids. It ain't gone away. It's still there.

"I feel really, really fortunate to have been able to have music in my heart and my soul."

Ward allegedly had his lawyers direct SABBATH to remove him from photos of the band posted at the official BLACK SABBATH web site "so as to not give the public the wrong impression about his involvement in the current BLACK SABBATH lineup," according to a statement issued by the band's publicist.

Bassist Geezer Butler issued a lengthy retort at his own web site, writing that Ward "hadn't told any one of us he was having contractual problems, and frankly those things are worked out between our representatives, and never between the four of us, let alone in public."

Until now, Iommi told The Pulse Of Radio a while back that the members of SABBATH stayed friendly even when there were legal or other issues going on. "We've always been talking. We've always been in touch with each other," he said. "There might be a lawsuit in the thing between us, but we still talk to each other like nothing's happened, you know."

Ozzy, Iommi and Butler are working on their first new album together in 33 years.

The Vice series explores "the scuffed soul and frayed underbelly of 'Black Sabbath And The Birth Of Heavy Metal' as presenter Hughes meets the bands, roadies, journalists, groupies, designers and super fans who were all there the first time around."



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posted by : Deathpool Dave
10/2/2012 10:39:48 AM
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I don't know who is right or who is wrong, I'm just a fan that really wishes Bill was in the band...


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posted by : SkyLoLow
10/2/2012 7:02:51 PM
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Exactly........

I mean we all get it that Black Sabbath is a business. Certain partners put more into the others and deserve a bigger piece of the pie. But at this stage of the game can't they just say screw it and split it evenly. I don't think any of them are exactly hurting for money. Sure some are better off then others but no one has to worry about putting gas in there cars or putting food on the table.


Do it for the fans and for each other.


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posted by : CommissarGaunt
10/2/2012 10:49:52 AM
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Yeah, lets just keep bringing this up Ward.


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posted by : Blackstar75
10/2/2012 10:49:59 AM
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It would be so much cooler to have Bill on board for this. But as far as this new Sabbath album is concerned, I'm not feeling it....

This is NOT a reunion.


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posted by : MetalMosher665
10/2/2012 10:51:48 AM
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Black Sabbath needs Bill Ward. His drumming, with Tony's guitar, revolutionized music forever. Money is obviously the issue here, and if that's all it is, I can only pray they get it settled.

Black Sabbath deserve to be idolized in metal infamy forever. Every band owes a debt to them and their iconic music.


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posted by : kill metal
10/2/2012 2:50:06 PM
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I honestly don't believe it's about money on Sabbaths part,I believe they low balled Ward on purpose so he would'nt participate because they don't think that he is up to playing on the level demanded & with all do respect to Ward,I agree 100%.He looks awful & does'nt look like he can play for long.I'd love to see the original Sabbath have one last go around but I truly believe Ward would not last the tour.


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COMMENT | I wish he would...
posted by : Nomader
10/2/2012 10:55:03 AM
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...get involved!!! What the FUCK are you waiting for Bill? Your 80s? So you don't make 1/4, so what!


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COMMENT | 'RE: I wish he would...'
posted by : RiotAct666
10/2/2012 11:47:01 AM
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Proper contract w/ money.


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COMMENT | bill....bill....
posted by : JOHNNY SNOT
10/2/2012 10:55:25 AM
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1. yes, you were a part of one of the greatest rock bands to ever exist.

2. now please go lay down for fuck's sakes.


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COMMENT | Hey Bill....
posted by : BabyKiller
10/2/2012 11:03:02 AM
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you removed yourself from Black Sabbath looking for a better deal but it didn't happen. You made your move and you lost. No shame in that.


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posted by : aztec
10/2/2012 11:06:21 AM
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It won't be a reunion with out Bill.


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posted by : Pizzaparty
10/2/2012 11:13:20 AM
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"When Tony opens up with huge chords, I still get the same shiver up my back that I got when we were 18-year-old kids. It ain't gone away. It's still there."

It isn't going away or it hasnt gone away, not "it ain't gone away"


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posted by : Zambo
10/2/2012 11:18:54 AM
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No grammar police = No Black Sabbath


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posted by : mygoodeye
10/2/2012 11:39:56 AM
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Actually "ain't" has officially been added to the English language. You lose.


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COMMENT | agreed
posted by : SabreAxe
10/2/2012 11:20:07 AM
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No Bill...No Sabbath. Got to be the original guys or dont bother. They should have Pentagram open for them. Talk about an evening of DOOM!!!!!! Would be off the hook!!


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posted by : RiotAct666
10/2/2012 11:47:53 AM
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Agree w/ Bill. Screw this fraud lineup of Sabbath.


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posted by : angelus1
10/2/2012 11:48:38 AM
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He answered his own question:

There is no longevity with Black Sabbath, not since Cross Purposes.

If and when they do shit out the new album, it will be 70 more tours of War PIgs/Paranoid/Iron Man/NIB/BS/Sweet Leaf/Snowblind and at least six years before the thought of a new album will be mentioned.


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posted by : MarlaHooch
10/2/2012 11:50:43 AM
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Bill = a lovely human being and a great drummer.

Bill also = a heart attack survivor with continuing weight issues.

I was so mad he wasn't included, then saw fairly recent footage of him in the Ozzy doc Jack directed.

The man is in no shape to tour and it explains the "try three songs with us first" approach that was offered. It's too bad, and it sucks knowing I can't blame Sharon because its my favorite.


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posted by : Psychobolia.com
10/2/2012 11:51:29 AM
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Back Stabbath sucks, the new album is gonna suck without Bill Ward on it. I refuse to buy any new album or tix, I've already seen them with Ward back when Pantera opened for them and don't need to see a pretend version of the band.


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COMMENT | Hmm Butler says
posted by : kickback
10/2/2012 11:53:53 AM
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"hadn't told any one of us he was having contractual problems, and frankly those things are worked out between our representatives, and never between the four of us, let alone in public."

How is it not already public when you are not performing live with Ward after announcing to the public implying at the time that he would be part of the new album and tour. Of course the public is going to be asking question Duuhh.


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posted by : ElliottHenderson
10/2/2012 12:12:03 PM
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I watched Black Sabbath at Download festival and like it or not Tommy Clufetos put a well earned spark back into Black Sabbath. Bill Ward is gtting on and can't play like he used to. The set list was amazing and the was no way half those songs would have been played had Bill been on the sticks.

No its not the original line up but who cares. Plenty of band are loads better without their original members.
Do we want AC/DC back with Dave Evans?
Or Maiden back with Paul Dianno?
Rush with John Rutsey?
Judas Priest with Al Atkins anyone?
Fuck off. Get over it. Move on.
Look forward to the new album.


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COMMENT | Fucking Sucks..
posted by : Manik
10/2/2012 12:12:49 PM
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The reality is Tony might not be around.... I hope he beats it, but this would have been the time for the 4 to get together. Now! Fucking sucks it's about money, but hey, it's their legacy....


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COMMENT | Are they recording or anything ?
posted by : dhanishattuck
10/2/2012 12:13:00 PM
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In the studio ? That Lollapalooza gig didn't sound good at all.


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posted by : Sadistikexekution
10/2/2012 12:20:09 PM
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Fuck all you ozzy fanboys.
Pay Ward his due and get him aboard.

This shit with the clufetos character has been going on long enough.


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COMMENT | Dumbass
posted by : PunkRockJ
10/2/2012 12:49:33 PM
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@ElliotHenderson - dumbest argument ever. No-one cares about Dave Evans in AC/DC apart from a footnote. Bill Ward IS the Black Sabbath drummer that people want to see. Noone wants to see Dianno back in Maiden. But after Blaze they wanted Bruce back. The classic line-up isn't always the first. But in this case, it is. Argh. Such a dumb argument.


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posted by : kill metal
10/2/2012 12:51:02 PM
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I would love to see a true Sabbath reunion,but in all seriousness,I really don't think Ward can handle playing let alone doing a tour.I don't mean any disrespect whatsoever,but he looks terrible,like he would keel over in the middle of playing.I surely don't want to see that happen.I think it's best for him to not do the reunion,I could see him working on the album cause it would be less strenueous,but touring,definitely not.Again,no disrespect intended to this legend.


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COMMENT | Bill is too old
posted by : visionof
10/2/2012 1:49:08 PM
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Seen Sabbath in 1999 and Ward was old,fat and slow then. No power in his drumming. Join a gym and lose 100 pounds and maybe you will see a real contract.


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COMMENT | Bill Fuck is Black Sabbath
posted by : TimRipperOwensDayJob
10/2/2012 4:08:31 PM
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And Bill Fuck plays drums for paper, pay the man.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Bill Fuck is Black Sabbath'
posted by : Masterofmetal65
10/2/2012 4:39:56 PM
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I was gonna say " What..? No Bill Fuck Comments"..? Ripper keeps it alive.


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COMMENT | Bill Rules...
posted by : ghodofthunder
10/2/2012 9:18:26 PM
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It's ghey w/o him... Really No Bill!?!


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posted by : master of poopheads
10/2/2012 9:20:24 PM
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i wish they would jus get tony martin back


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posted by : gonzo9
10/2/2012 11:09:26 PM
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Bill. Fuck.


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COMMENT | I am just sad
posted by : Icarus21
10/3/2012 4:12:57 AM
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My favorite band of all time is approaching permanent retirement. When the master Tony departs the physical world, it is curtain call...albeit a black curtain. Even Sharon's future attempt to tour with holograms will be in vain.

Whether or not Ward can still play is irrelevant as he opted out of this gig. Unless he is destitute, what would prevent him from declining a contract...unless Sharon tried to get his soul in the fine print?

You may scoff, but close your eyes and listen to Cross Purposes Live...the best Sabbath drummer next to Bill Ward in his prime was Rondinelli. No diss to Vinny and Cozy. A Geezer, Tony, Rondinelli, & Ray Gillen line up would have been great to see. Also, it is unfortunate that Tony Martin's voice is a mere shadow of its one time greatness.

Currently, watching Ozzy struggle makes it tough for me to watch my idols in the year 2012. They should have simply all played together one last time and officially retired the Black Sabbath name.

Black Sabbath, in any incarnation will always be my favorite band.





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