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FOZZY's CHRIS JERICHO: 'I've Been Able To Get This Far By Always Having God Have My Back' - Sep. 23, 2012
Beliefnet, which is described as "a large multi-faith e-community that aims to provide a free forum for religious information and inspiration, spiritual tools, and discussions and dialogue groups," recently conducted an interview with FOZZY frontman and WWE wrestling superstar Chris Jericho. You can now watch the chat in twelve parts below.

Speaking about his faith, Jericho said, "I basically got into Christianity through Christian rock, which is another reason why music has always been important to me; it was through STRYPER. And Michael Sweet [STRYPER frontman] and I have become really, really good friends. I actually just sang on his last solo record that's about to come out.

"When I was in high school, it was ambition and fate. And my ambition was to play bass guitar in a Christian metal band. And I vividly remember having a deam that I was in STRYPER. And here I am, whatever it was — 20, 25 years later — on stage singing with STRYPER. It blew my mind. It blew my freaking mind, man. I even said that on the microphone: '25 years ago, I had a dream that I would be playing in STRYPER, and now I am.'

"I have been a Christian for years and years and years. That's how I've been able to get this far — by always having God have my back. And I haven't always been the best of Christians, but at the end of the day, I know who the boss is. And he has granted me two wishes, to where if I died tomorrow, how many [other] people can say they've done this, and the answer is zero. How many people have been a world champion in the WWE and had a record that was No. 1 on the Billboard Heatseekers charts? I mean, there might be a novelty thing, but for a real band, I think I'm the only one; I think I am."

FOZZY's new album, "Sin And Bones", sold around 3,400 copies in the United States in its first week of release to debut at position No. 143 on the Billboard 200 chart. The CD landed at position No. 1 on the Top New Artist Albums (Heatseekers) chart, which lists the best-selling albums by new and developing artists, defined as those who have never appeared in the Top 100 of The Billboard 200.

FOZZY's previous album, 2010's "Chasing The Grail", opened with around 2,200 units to enter the Heatseekers chart at No. 6.

"Sin And Bones" was released on August 14 (one day earlier internationally) via the group's new label, Century Media Records.

"Sandpaper", the lead single from "Sin And Bones", features a guest appearance by AVENGED SEVENFOLD lead singer M. Shadows. The song was released via iTunes on July 17.























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posted by : BrandoC
9/23/2012 6:00:35 AM
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i have no idea who this asshole is, but i hate when people say they are "blessed" or that god has their back. such a slap in the face to people who die every single day, like innocent kids who starve to death, ect. you're not special, and god doesn't exist.


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9/23/2012 9:08:19 AM
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Why so hostile, Brando? So someone sees things differently than you do...big deal. And, I think you'll find that many of the cruel and unfortunate things that happen to people in life are do to the cruelty of other human beings. The Christians I know are at least making a sincere attempt to feed hungry people and help people in need...what are you doing to make the world a better place, BrandoC?


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posted by : TimRipperOwensDayJob
9/23/2012 3:01:46 PM
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God luvs you too.


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posted by : entenus
9/24/2012 2:39:03 PM
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you don't understand about being blessed - blessings come from God ... don't be bitter ... be better ... people die because of sin ... the same sin that is responsible for your denying God is the same sin that brings death to those starving kids ... and all the wrong doing in this world ... check it out for yourself ... you want the kind of peace about life that chris has? ... do the homework ... see if God is real ... seek and ye SHALL find ... peace out


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posted by : Sadistikexekution
9/23/2012 6:22:42 AM
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Don't blame god for your crap music.


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posted by : mastodon1314
9/23/2012 6:49:28 AM
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I really don't understand racional people saying they believe the existence of a god! It just makes me cringe! And how arrogant and self centered are you to say your blessed because you have so much when 1/3 of the population doesn't have enough FOOD TO EAT!!! ASSHOLE


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posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
9/23/2012 11:02:01 AM
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Obviously "God" is a sadist who enjoys watching children get raped and people starving to death. That's funny to him.


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posted by : LifeIsDeath
9/23/2012 6:54:48 AM
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I hate Godbotts.


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posted by : maidenhouston
9/23/2012 7:03:07 AM
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2 douche bag comments already...so the guy feels God helps him, good for him. If it's what he believes offends you - too bad. He doesn't need to call you asking for your permission to share his personal beliefs. The thing that stood out more regarding this story is that he realized a childhood dream of jamming with one of his fav bands...how cool is that?!

Iron Maiden is my favorite band and if I recorded or stood on a stage with them performing it would be fucking incredible. If anyone of says you wouldn't gush about performing with your favorite band - I call bullshit!

Good for him! More power to em'


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posted by : Smashing Blumpkins
9/23/2012 8:41:10 AM
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Yeah, but it's Stryper we're talking about here. Fucking STRYPER.


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posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
9/23/2012 11:06:21 AM
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He doesn't need our permission to share his beliefs but that works both ways. We don't need his permission to say that he's a moron for being a grown man who believes in the Easter Bunny.


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posted by : mygoodeye
9/23/2012 7:43:36 AM
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This guy should talk less.


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posted by : fuckthemags
9/23/2012 1:36:22 PM
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And "Sing" less


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posted by : Battle_Magic
9/23/2012 7:44:53 AM
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LAYETH THE SMACKDOWN ON THIS JEBUS JABRONI PLZ!


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posted by : Big Ol' Titties
9/23/2012 8:41:47 AM
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I think it's funny how people get worked up in posts that revolve around God and beliefs. They'll hail the almighty Slayer and forget that Tom is a devout Catholic. Or they'll go on about Behemoth and forget that if they worship Satan they also believe in God.

Tools, really.

If he believes in God, so WHAT?! Does it matter? I'd rather believe in something than nothing. Have you ever actually thought about your soul and what happens when you die, ever? For all I care, you can believe in reincarnation, or pure nothingness, that you die and you're dead and that's it. But even then, that's a belief you have. I'd say you're more ignorant NOT thinking about your life than criticizing those who have a belief you don't think is right.

Nobody knows what happens. But I'd rather have faith in something than nothing.


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posted by : Supertenor
9/23/2012 8:42:56 AM
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Here's an interesting article...


Not a Chance
By Dean Overman

Many people today believe that life on Earth originated as a result of random accidents. Most of us vaguely recall having heard of scientific experiments involving mixtures of inanimate materials that are said to be similar to the "prebiotic soup" that existed before life began. The mixtures are hit with an electrical spark that simulates a lightning strike, and amino acids—building blocks of life—result. So we’re assured that a similar accidental transformation long ago caused life to originate from non-living matter.

But in fact, recent discoveries in molecular biology, particle astrophysics, and the geological records raise profound doubts about all this. Three questions should be investigated: (1) Is it mathematically possible that accidental processes caused the first form of living matter? (2) If accident is mathematically impossible as the cause of the first form of living matter, are other popular scenarios that matter "self-organized" into life plausible? (3) Is it mathematically possible that accidental processes caused the formation of a universe that is compatible with life? In examining these questions, I will use the widely accepted scientific definition of life, which holds that living matter processes energy, stores information, and replicates.

To answer the first question—the likelihood that random accidents turned inanimate matter into living matter—I will address only the molecular biological aspects. Consider a calculation by the famous (atheist) scientist Sir Fred Hoyle. Hoyle understood that even the simplest living cells are extremely complex, containing many nucleic acids, enzymes, and molecules all joined together in a very precise sequence. He calculated the odds of each of 20 amino acids appearing in the correct sequence to form an enzyme as 1 chance in 1020. Since the simplest living cell requires 2,000 functioning enzymes, the odds against the amino acids appearing in the correct sequence for a living cell were equal to 1 in 1020 ? 2,000—or 1 chance in 1040,000. This number is a 1 followed by 40,000 zeros. Because mathematicians normally regard a chance of 1 in 1050 as mathematical impossibility, Hoyle concluded that life could not have appeared by earthbound random processes, even if the whole universe consisted of prebiotic soup. His collaborator Chandra Wickramasinghe put it more dramatically: "The chances that life just occurred are about as unlikely as a typhoon blowing through a junkyard and constructing a Boeing 747."

To appreciate the size of 1050, consider that if you assume the Big Bang occurred 15 billion years ago, only 1018 seconds have occurred in all of time. The number of atoms in the known universe is estimated to be only 1080. Physicist Paul Davies has equated the odds of one chance in 1060 as equal to the odds against hitting a one-inch target with the random, unaimed shot of a rifle bullet from a distance of 20 billion light years. One chance in 1040,000 is far beyond mathematical possibility.

Actually the odds of life forming by random processes are even worse, for several reasons. First, scientists are discovering many reasons to think that conditions on Earth were not as the prebiotic soup experiments assume. Second, there is absolutely no physical evidence for the existence of either the prebiotic soup or many of the substances the experiments produced. In fact, evidence of prebiotic soup that should have been left behind in geological records does not exist. Third, even if amino acids did form in an ancient prebiotic soup, there are still astronomical odds against those amino acids joining together to form even very short proteins, much less the dna found in all life.

Worst of all, recent discoveries in the fossil records reveal that only 130 million years were actually available for life to appear on Earth by accidental processes. The Earth formed about 4.6 billion years ago, but was too torrid to support life until about 3.98 billion years ago. Fossil records discovered recently (particularly in the Istaq complex in Greenland) show life existed at least 3.85 billion years ago. That means only 130 million years were available for random processes to form the first living matter, not the billions of years we once thought. This makes the odds even more remote that accidental processes would have produced the first form of living matter. Chance had no chance to form life.

Our second question concerned the plausibility of current theories that matter "self-organized" itself into life according to the laws of physics and chemistry. To understand the idea of self-organization, we must recall the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which requires that any system near equilibrium will always move toward disorder (also known as entropy). Yet sometimes an energy flow can cause disordered inanimate matter to organize spontaneously into an ordered system. Consider this example: Picture a bathtub filled with water where the water molecules are in equilibrium—warmer water is mixed evenly with cooler water so that the water molecules are all at an even temperature and distributed in a totally random, unordered manner. Pulling the drain plug allows the force of gravity to move the water from this chaotic, random state of equilibrium into an ordered vortex. This example demonstrates how an energy flow (such as that derived from the force of gravity) can move a system away from equilibrium and cause the spontaneous creation of order.

Could a similar sort of self-organization create life? Well, living matter must contain sufficient complex information (or instructions) to be able to maintain and replicate itself. Here information theory is useful, because it allows us to quantify the amount of information in living and non-living matter in terms of bits and bytes.

The enormous information in living matter involves irregular, flexible patterns, while inanimate matter never rises above simple, repeating patterns in its information content. A quartz crystal, for example, has simple order and replicates, but it has very little information content and is not alive. By contrast, dna exists in all living matter and contains a vast amount of information that allows organisms to replicate and maintain themselves, that is, to live. The dna for even the smallest single-celled bacterium contains over 4 million instructions. These instructions are encoded in dna’s four "bases"—the rungs of the famous double helix ladder of dna that are denoted A, G, C, T. The bases act like a four-letter alphabet for the genetic process. This process, like the English language, consists of a code. Acting like sentences, dna instructions pass on the information needed to form a protein or some other necessity that the living organism needs in order to replicate or maintain itself.

The problem with self-organization theorists is that the mechanisms they claim could create life lack any plausible method of generating the sort of information dna contains. Their scenarios only describe the formation of order, not complex information. They like to use the term "complexity" in their work, but all they mean by it is highly organized, intricate patterns, which is not a definition capable of distinguishing quartz crystals from rhododendrons or amoebae.

Self-organization scenarios claim that the laws of physics (and the laws of chemistry they produce) caused the formation of living matter. But this idea faces a grave obstacle—the simple mathematical fact that the genetic information contained in even the smallest living organism is much larger than the information content found in the laws of physics, as Hubert Yockey, a Manhattan Project physicist, noted in Information Theory and Molecular Biology. Where did the greater information content of life come from? This fundamental difficulty has not been addressed by the theorists of self-organization.

Even if we ignore this fundamental mathematical fact, there is also the problem that the laws of physics only produce regular patterns. dna—life—requires an irregular pattern to transmit information through the genetic code. To use an analogy to the code in our written English language, if I type the letters "abc" repeatedly for 1,000 pages, I would have a highly ordered, regular, predictable pattern such as a law of nature would produce. But I would have conveyed very little information. The Oxford History of the American People, on the other hand, has an irregular pattern in its alphabet letters, and it conveys a large amount of information. Similarly, dna varies its letters A, C, T, G in order to transmit the genetic code.

Flexibility and the lack of a regular, predictable pattern in dna argue against the existence of an inherent law that controls the operation of dna. A physical law produces a regular, predictable pattern, such as the law of gravity produced in the ordered vortex of water in our bathtub example. If dna were caused by such a law, it would have a simple repeating sequence (like abcabc) without much information. And dna would not be capable of transmitting millions of instructions, as it does in even the simplest living organism.

The Oxford chemist Michael Polanyi recognized this in 1953. Just as the information contained in a poem is not determined by the chemicals in the pen used to write the poem, so the information in the genetic code, although encoded in a four-letter alphabet, is not determined by the chemical elements of that alphabet.

One can only speculate whether an adequate self-organization theory will ever be discovered. At present we must conclude that the information content required in the simplest living form of matter could not have arisen only from the laws of physics and chemistry.

Let us turn to our third question, which involves particle astrophysics and the likelihood of a universe forming in such a way as to be compatible with life. Many proponents of chance as the cause of life proposed their theories when the universe was believed to be in a steady state and infinitely old. In an infinite, ageless universe, anything can happen, but now scientists view the universe as young, expanding from a definite beginning, and approximately 15 billion years old.

Contemporary physics has also discovered that the physical universe appears to be precisely fine tuned in numerous ways that accommodate the formation of life. At the very outset of the Big Bang, the mass of the elementary particles, the strength of the four forces, and the values of the fundamental constants were very precise. Imagine that you are selecting the values for these natural quantities by twiddling a vast number of knobs. You would find that almost all knob settings would render the universe uninhabitable. All these many knobs would have to be fine tuned to enormous precision if life is to flourish in the universe.
A BEAUTIFUL UNIVERSE

John Polkinghorne, a particle physicist at Cambridge, writes in Beyond Science that

it is mathematics which gives us the key to unlock the secrets of nature. [The Nobel-laureate physicist] Paul Dirac spent his life in the search for beautiful equations. That is a concept not all will find immediately accessible, but among those of us who speak the language of mathematics, mathematical beauty is a recognizable quality.… Time and again we have found that it is equations with that indispensable character of mathematical beauty which describe the nature of the physical world. If you stop to think about it, that is a very significant thing to have discovered. After all, mathematics arises from the free rational exploration of the human mind. Yet it seems that our minds are so finely tuned to the structure of the universe that they are capable of penetrating its deepest secrets.

In fact, our universe is so remarkably fine tuned to allow for the origination of life that one may think of it as a finely sharpened pencil standing vertically on its graphite point in a precarious balance. Any deviation in a myriad of physical values would cause the pencil to tilt, fall, and preclude the formation of life. The fine tuning is exactly what is required not just for one reason, but for two or three or five reasons. Accidental processes could not plausibly tune these fundamental astrophysical values first one way and then another to satisfy conflicting requirements for the development of life.

There are many examples of this extraordinary fine tuning, but consider only a few:

• Fine tuning in the formation of carbon. Life would be impossible without carbon, and yet because of the precise requirements for its existence, the carbon atom should be very scarce. The formation of a carbon atom requires a rare triple collision known as the triple alpha process. The first step in this process occurs when a helium nucleus collides with another helium nucleus within a star. This collision produces an unstable, very ephemeral isotope of beryllium. When the unstable, short-lived beryllium collides with a third helium nucleus, a carbon nucleus is formed. Astrophysicist Sir Fred Hoyle predicted the resonances (or energy levels) of the carbon and oxygen atoms. The resonance of the carbon nucleus is precisely the right resonance to enable the components to hold together rather than disperse. This resonance perfectly matches the combined resonance of the third helium nucleus and the beryllium atom. Hoyle admitted that his atheism was dramatically disturbed when he calculated the odds against the precise matching required to form a carbon atom through this triple alpha process. He said the number he calculated from the facts is so overwhelming as to put almost beyond question the conclusion that a superintellect had monkeyed with the laws of physics.

• Explosive power of Big Bang precisely matched to the force of gravity. Physicist Paul Davies calculated that the matching of the explosive force of the Big Bang and gravity had to match to one part in 1060. If the explosive force were only slightly higher, the universe would consist of gas without stars or planets. If the force were reduced by one part in a thousand billion, the universe would have collapsed back to a singular point after a few million years.

• Fine tuning in the strong and weak nuclear force. The strong force which binds the particles in an atom’s nucleus must be balanced with the weak nuclear force to a degree of one part in 1060. If the strong force were any weaker, atomic nuclei could not hold together and only hydrogen would exist. If the strong force were only slightly stronger, hydrogen would be an unusual element, the Sun would not exist, water would not exist, and the heavier elements necessary for life would not be available.

• Fine tuning of electromagnetic force and ratio of electron mass to proton mass and proton mass to neutron mass. Any deviation in the strength of the electromagnetic force would also preclude the molecular formation necessary for life. The electromagnetic force must be precisely balanced with the ratio of electron mass to proton mass. The proton is 1,836 times heavier than the electron. This fundamental ratio must be very finely adjusted to make life possible. Moreover, the mass of the proton and the mass of the neutron are meticulously balanced. The emergence of life depended on an astounding precision among the masses of these three particles.

• Fine tuning of the order at the initial Big Bang. The Second Law of Thermodynamics requires that disorder in the universe tends toward a maximum. Because the universe could not have been dissipating from infinity or it would have run down, it must have had a beginning—a very highly ordered beginning. If the Big Bang is regarded as only an impressive accident, there is no explanation why it produced a universe with such a high degree of order, contrary to the Second Law.

Oxford mathematician Roger Penrose calculated that at the very beginning of the Big Bang, the precision required to set the universe on its highly ordered course in which life could develop was staggering: "an accuracy of one part in 1010123." Penrose adds, "This is an extraordinary figure. One could not possibly even write the number down in full, in the ordinary denary notation; it would be 1 followed by 10123 successive 0s! Even if we were to write a 0 on each separate proton and on each separate neutron in the entire universe—and we could throw in all the other particles as well for good measure—we should fall far short of writing down the figure needed."

• Fine tuning in the precision between counter-intuitive abstract mathematics and the physical world. An accidental universe cannot explain the astounding agreement between abstract mathematics and the laws of the physical world. Abstract mathematics have predicted counter-intuitive phenomena to a remarkable precision. For example, the agreement between the counter-intuitive theory of general relativity and the physical world has been confirmed by experience to more than one-trillionth of a percent. Precision to this degree cannot be explained by chance alone. Similarly, the strange, unseen, counter-intuitive subatomic world of quantum mechanics matches the predictions of abstract mathematics to a remarkable degree. Our minds seem to be finely tuned to the structure of the universe. This fine tuning cannot be understood as a curious spin-off from the need of our ancestors to dodge a wild animal.

Because the mathematical probabilities against life arising by accident are so overwhelming in our universe, some scientists are attracted to the concept of an "oscillating" universe in which, crudely put, there is an infinite cycle of Big Bangs and Big Crunches as the universe expands and contracts. This would permit an infinite number of beginnings. Since infinity can be used to explain almost anything, a person displeased with the unlikeliness of an accident causing life to form may grasp at any opportunity to bring infinity into the picture. Stephen Hawking and Roger Penrose, however, have demonstrated that the gravitational force in a collapsing universe would produce a Big Crunch that would be totally chaotic, and the entropy at the Crunch would be so large that it would preclude another expansion.

There are other abstruse theories that try to concoct similar scenarios in which the universe didn’t begin in the Big Bang but somehow always existed. Those who put such theories forward implicitly recognize that if the universe did have a beginning and did arise out of nothing, then something must have caused it. I deal with these theories in my book A Case Against Accident and Self-Organization, where I show that they suffer from the same sort of physical and logical difficulties as the oscillating universe theory.

In sum, the case against chance as the cause of life is satisfied completely by the probabilities involved in the fine tuning of particle astrophysics. When one couples these probabilities with the molecular biological probabilities we’ve considered, the compounded calculation wipes the idea of accident entirely out of court.

Nor does a plausible self-organization theory exist. The answer to the question of life’s formation will not be found in the laws of physics and chemistry, because life transcends those laws in the vast information it possesses and in the irregular flexible patterns it uses to convey this information. The physical sciences, in short, lead us to conclude that life is more than a physical thing, which means we should be open-minded about the possibility that other fields of study can teach us something about the origin and meaning of life.

Dean Overman is a lawyer who has taught at the University of Virginia and served in the Ford administration. The author of several books, he was appointed as a visiting scholar at Harvard for the purpose of writing his latest book, A Case Against Accident and Self-organization.

THE AMERICAN ENTERPRISE, SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER 1998



Published in Making Sense of Science September/October 1998


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COMMENT | 'RE: Here we go... Another article desined to set off the unbelievers.'
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9/24/2012 2:55:57 AM
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Great story, I almost fell asleep reading it


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9/23/2012 8:44:46 AM
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Y2J must of taken one too many chair shots to the skull.


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There are some root symbols in the above article that didn't show up so, the #s show up wrong. Here's the original, if you want to see the correct math:

http://nanuq-alaska.net/Troop215/not_a_chance/not_a_chance.asp.htm



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9/23/2012 9:17:35 AM
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why would god die for your stupid sins and why he didn't die for adam and eve? Christianity is lame


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COMMENT | Common sense
posted by : Armored Saint Rules
9/23/2012 9:20:12 AM
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For all the haters, is it so bad that millions of people believe in God, together with Judeo-Christian morals that help keep society civilized? I"ll grant the argument that at times, Christians throughout history may have done harm and killed in the name of Christ. But without God (whether indeed there is one or not), you'll have far less incentive and inclination for people to behave well to their felllow man.


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posted by : Whiskey Priest
9/23/2012 10:43:01 AM
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No, morality isn't derived from a concept of a higher power.


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posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
9/23/2012 11:12:50 AM
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At times, Christians have done harm and killed in the name of Christ? At times? Are you fucking kidding me? They've done it consistently for 2,000 years. it's only within the last 100 years or so that people like me could even state their beliefs without fear of being burned at the stake or, at very least, cast out of society. On top of that, you've got a pope who condones pedophilia. I'd say Christianity has done far more harm to the world than it will ever do good. I'm obviously an anti-theist and I don't murder, rape, steal or molest children so your idea that morality is defined by God is bullshit.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Common sense'''
posted by : entenus
9/24/2012 2:59:57 PM
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don't confuse the catholic church with Christianity ...


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9/23/2012 9:25:24 AM
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Very good interview . God Bless him! And for the idiots saying that he has so much. He fucking worked for it asshole !! Most of us would not last one hour in the WWE .
Let alone being in a band etc. Go to Church you might learn something! God Bless Us All!


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posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
9/23/2012 11:16:07 AM
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Go to church to learn something? There's a goddam joke. Allow me to teach you something. The church doesn't want you learning anything. That's why the very first story of the bible has Adam and Eve being cast out of paradise for eating from the tree of knowledge. Why would I want to follow an organization that insists that I remain ignorant?


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posted by : hurricane hugo
9/23/2012 11:43:34 AM
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pretty much it right there. plur


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posted by : YodaAct666
9/23/2012 9:30:43 AM
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I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Praise the balls! Let him embrace you with his mighty noodles


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COMMENT | I've been touched
posted by : DarkyDan
9/23/2012 9:42:53 AM
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By his noodly appendage.

The fact that any intelligent person these days can still be indoctrinated into believing all that tripe troubles me. In my humble opinion no intelligent, rational person with a neutral upbringing could ever be a beliver. Natural selection will sort all this crap out eventually but I'm impatient and selfish and want intelligence to prevail and let humanity move forwards.

Fozzy are tolerable, Rich Ward riffage is always enjoyable.


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COMMENT | Pandering to the crowd...
posted by : Ytsejamer1
9/23/2012 9:53:02 AM
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CJ knows who he's performing for in this interview...just like in the ring. If he feels like God has his back...good for him.

Here's my guess as to why he's been successful - He's worked his ass off - making personal and professional sacrifices along the way, come from a solid family who supported him, and a lot of luck and chance.


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posted by : gamblor
9/23/2012 10:13:32 AM
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Church is the opposite of learning. Praying is begging.

Christianity exists largely for people who cannot accept responsibility for their own existence. If it's all in the hands of your flying, invisible Tony Soprano with wings, then none of it is your fault!


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COMMENT | Love it
posted by : Riotass666
9/23/2012 10:34:18 AM
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People who do not want to accept responsibility for their own actions always say God is with them. If they succeed, God helped them out. If they failed, Satan interferred with God's plan. Nowhere in their life story do they take responsibility for anything they do. Always some imaginary being caused everything. Must be blissful to never have to take any responsibility for anything you do.


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COMMENT | Ok..
posted by : mr fuzzy
9/23/2012 10:38:33 AM
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so he used to be a WWE champion for a sport(?) that requires you to jump around and manhandle other men in a pair of skimpy BVD's. A bit homoerotic(not that here's anything wrong with that) But isn't that something the xtian faith would be against?? Just asking.

As for Fozzy. Listen to the band. It's pretty bad. We know, you know, as everyone knows, if it weren't for you running around in a ring with other men and pretending to kick their asses,(not that there's anything wrong with that) Fozzy would just be another shitty band in a sea of shitty bands. Playing mediocre music, at best. If that's what god planned for you..great. Happy for your success. But go peddle that "God has my back" bullshit somewhere else. Fozzy's a brief success because you were a rassler' who used to be a champion. It's not the other way around. The band stinks.

Believe in a myth if you must. But don't sell us on your shitty band. I listened to the new one, and it's pretty god damned bad.







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posted by : OBAMAVILLE
9/23/2012 10:45:35 AM
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PLEASE WATCH AND PASS THIS FILM TO FRIENDS BEFORE IT IS REMOVED AGAIN. MUST SEE DOCUMENTARY THAT IS STILL PLAYING IN LOCAL THEATERS!http://constitutionclub.org/2012/09/21/obamas-america-2016-full-video/


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COMMENT | Kudos!
posted by : splintered_visions
9/23/2012 10:46:57 AM
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Very proud of Chris for being outspoken for his beliefs. God has given me tremendous strength this year since being diagnosed with schizophrenia so it is reassuring to know that Chris turns to God as well. I love Fozzy as well as their new record was a perfect blend of rock and general metal. Hats off to you Mr. Jericho.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Kudos!'
posted by : the irreligious god
9/23/2012 5:15:35 PM
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Do you both have schizophrenia, or is just you & you?


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posted by : blakm
9/23/2012 10:54:06 AM
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I havent watched the vids or even read the story but I knew BM would have everyone in here stirred up over their little heading for this story. Well done BM, trolled them all.


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COMMENT | poor idiots
posted by : Braindeed
9/23/2012 11:07:41 AM
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firsr of all, I´m a christian myself, and i dont care if people belive or not in God or have any god at all or religion, but I´m getting tired of those close minded idiots who claim to be so inteligent becuase they are atheits or agnostic... so why are ypu so angry at people who dont think as you do? do ypu spend your whole life living in anger and hate towards those who dont share your thoughts? you getter get a life cos this one is short to waste it like that;
I dont attend to church that much, but my family does, and every weekend they go to prisons around my home town taking food, clothes and stuff to those who are in jail, what do yopu haters do to make this world a better one? I´m not piring out my pride by saying it, but its the least I can do for those who fall in misery, guilty or not, while you live in your selfish world of hate;
so go and tell Tom Araya, Andreas Kisser, Blackie Lawless, Mustaine & Ellefson, Ralph Santolla, the Helloween guys and so on plus your satanic fav band that they´re dumb, stupid or non intelligent cos they belive in something you dont, I guess they´ll laugh in pity at what you had achieved in life guided by your hate and intolerance, I really dont care what others believe in, its their choice and I dont hate those who think opposite, I think I´m wasting my time talking to 15 yo angry kids


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COMMENT | 'RE: poor idiots'
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
9/23/2012 11:23:37 AM
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Having the common sense to not believe in an old white dude who lives in the clouds and grants wishes absolutely makes me smarter than you. So does my spelling and grammar. And if you want to know why we're so angry, it's because for thousands of years, Christians have burned us at the stake and cast us out of society. Now that you've allowed us to state our opinions, we're supposed to just forget about thousands of years of oppression? Fuck that and fuck you! On top of all that, your silly beliefs hinder the intellectual progress of the human race.


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COMMENT | 'RE: poor idiots'
posted by : Big Ol' Titties
9/23/2012 12:34:22 PM
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I stopped reading after you said 'a white dude in clouds'. You do know that's just a visual interpretation, people don't actually believe there is someone IN the clouds, right? Sorry, continue, you were saying you're absolutely smarter...


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: poor idiots'''
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
9/24/2012 2:58:36 AM
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I apologize. Ididn't realize I was dealing with the spokesman for theists everywhere. The thing is: people actually do believe that. And the funniest thing is that's not even the dumbest of their beliefs. Go ahead and continue to swallow the Kool Aid but be prepared for scrutiny from the logical side of humanity.


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posted by : The Judge
9/23/2012 11:20:15 AM
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" laugh in pity at what you had achieved in life guided by your hate and intolerance,"

Hate and intolerance? Look around the world at the numerous religious conflicts and not just the middle east, you'll see plenty of religious zealots preaching hate and intolerance.


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posted by : $profit$
9/23/2012 11:24:43 AM
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It's interesting how many atheists showed up in this thread to share their beliefs. Very evangelical.


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COMMENT | PS.
posted by : The Judge
9/23/2012 11:25:18 AM
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You don't see people banging on about how atheism has helped them get to where they are today, having a clear mind and defined goals and not needing any "help" to achieve them.
For some reason it's only the religious who seem to want to broadcast something that is essentially private.


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COMMENT | 'RE: PS.'
posted by : Big Ol' Titties
9/23/2012 12:38:51 PM
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Ummm, no, you're wrong. Of course atheists don't go preaching about how atheism helped them - atheists believe in nothing other than themselves. And I sure as fuck know a lot of atheists who sit there tooting their own horns saying how fucking awesome they are and how much 'better' they are for not having beliefs.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: PS.'''
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
9/23/2012 7:12:12 PM
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Atheists believe in nothing but themselves? You're a fucking idiot! I love my family and I'm a great fucking friend. Anybody I care about will tell you that I'd take a bullet for them without thinking twice. It's pretty pathetic that you only decide to be good because you fear eternal consequences if you do otherwise.


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COMMENT | The only proof needed to declare christianity (and islam) a scam;
posted by : Mortis Rex
9/23/2012 11:37:46 AM
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The Old Testament was incorrectly copied from old Sumerian writings. They had several gods, thats why god acts like a deranged schizo in the christian writings.

Ia Pazuzu!!!




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COMMENT | doesn't say much
posted by : hurricane hugo
9/23/2012 11:42:16 AM
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for God's abilities in promotion and marketing.

plur


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COMMENT | In other words;
posted by : Mortis Rex
9/23/2012 11:43:13 AM
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Your god is as real as the storylines and violence seen during an episode of WWE.


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COMMENT | And here comes the "I don't believe in God, because that's not metal!" crowd
posted by : franklegionary
9/23/2012 11:44:34 AM
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Same shit... Metal heads in the 21st century have become such a huge fucking stereotypical joke... Who cares if he believes in God? This is coming from someone who has never gone to church a day in his life too... What's wrong with believing that there's a higher power? If human beings are the truly the "highest power", then life is a cruel fucking joke

Einstein at the end of his life even believed that there must be a higher power... Science doesn't have all the answers, but apparently atheistic metal heads do... Go back to your holes, and continue writing and listening to the same God bashing shit, so you and your cult of 15 fans can continue circle jerking each other


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COMMENT | 'RE: And here comes the'
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
9/23/2012 7:14:48 PM
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Science may not have all the answers but at least it continues to search for them, as opposed to accepting bronze age beliefs that were invented at a time when most of the population was illiterate and uneducated enough to believe them. Religion has never provided any answers (unless you don't require proof).


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COMMENT | "What's wrong with believing that there's a higher power?"
posted by : Mortis Rex
9/23/2012 11:59:07 AM
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Two thousand years of murder, rape and intolerance maybe?


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COMMENT | Hey Jericho
posted by : bdl1978
9/23/2012 12:05:40 PM
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You can suck my dick and so can your imaginary god. you're a major douche stop making "music".


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COMMENT | re mike portnoys....
posted by : Braindeed
9/23/2012 12:16:10 PM
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so you may have lived for thousands of years and feel outcast by the so called "church"? did you reincarnate?? hahaha... LOL... my parrot is smarter than you;
BTW, English is not my first language and I write too fast so the grammar is fucked up, I have many things to do rather than sit here all day reading angry kids posts like yours
go listen to Slayer´s Reign in Blood (a thrash masterpiece) and take those lyrics seriously, Araya and me are laughing all the way


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COMMENT | 'RE: re mike portnoys....'
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
9/23/2012 7:17:31 PM
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Hey dipshit, when did I mention reincarnation or the fact that I've lived for thousands of years? If you were educated, you'd notice that I said "people like me." And that's a wonderful story about your parrot. I'm sure you make a beautiful couple.


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posted by : zzzzzzzzzzzzz
9/23/2012 12:48:33 PM
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here's the deal---

the u.n. doesnt want to allow christianity---yet they allow channelling/theosophy to influence their policies (lucis trust,h.m blatavsky---official parts of the u.n. infrastructure)

that is beyond retarded/delusional
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so if anybody posts pro religious thoughts on the internet---they send in shills to attack them

not because they actually want to talk about philosophy

but because it is their job to create a false anti religious/anti gun/anti hetero stand to support the u.n. war on individual nations

fuck them

outlaw the atf/un----all trans national agencies in america are illegal and do not have the best interests of citizens in mind


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posted by : handofsutekh
9/23/2012 12:49:58 PM
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posted by : Chiron
9/23/2012 12:57:42 PM
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So he's just another moronic brain dead christian. And before anyone ask, yes, christian's and other religious nuts should be labeled enemies by anyone who has a brain. They do nothing besides spread hate. The "good" they do is to try buying their way into some imaginary place because their petty god requires it. They don't do good out of the kindness of their heart. Anyone who believes that is as ignorant as the christian scum themselves are.


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posted by : nancyboy
9/23/2012 12:59:16 PM
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What Mortis Rex said.

Believe what you want. If it works for you, more power to you. It's when religion organizes and attains a strangehold in society that you have problems, and it's ok (no, really) for people to have opinions about that, especially after so many centuries of religious persecution.

Religious or atheist, noone wants anyone else to have an opinion these days. We're all supposed to shut our mouths and keep our opinions to ourselves (while letting them talk, of course). Everytime a religious article is posted, there is some fucknut who wants to give their opinion that we should just keep ours to ourselves. Thankfully, we don't (and shouldn't) have to do that.

Hail Satan


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COMMENT | Wow, thats too cool!
posted by : HammerOfAstraea
9/23/2012 1:20:06 PM
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I never paid much attention to Jericho or Fozzy, but learning that he is a fellow Christian is pretty awesome! Good way to stick it to the panders and do the opposite that is expected of you from the mainstream, mainstream underground media! Good deal, brother.


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COMMENT | Too bad
posted by : wild rover of hell
9/23/2012 1:21:24 PM
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We now define and identify ourselves by what it is we hate, not what we love. I guess it's a sign of maturity and overall intelligence really, as you get older and take on more responsibility you just don't have the time or energy to dwell on things you don't like. When you're young and stupid, shit like that can be what drives you.

That being said, I wish religion would lose its hold on American culture and politics. It sadly fills empty spaces in people's banal lives.


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COMMENT | Who said..
posted by : mr fuzzy
9/23/2012 1:40:00 PM
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anything about preaching my Atheistic beliefs? If anything, It's a NON-belief system. I have a right to not believe. Wasn't it was Megadave who wrote: "Let me tell you somethin'. It's still we, the people..right?" Now THAT"S irony.

My bottom line is this:
Fozzy is pretty much a below average metal band. And wouldn't have even SNIFFED the heatseeker charts if he wasn't a former WWE rassler'. And you're completely delusional if you think Fozzy is a good band.

I always thought quality of the music is what counted most.

I guess not.






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COMMENT | ....
posted by : nodeerforamonth
9/23/2012 1:46:01 PM
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why always pick on Christians? Why don't you guys have the BALLS to pick on a Muslem? hmmm??? They believe in God too!


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posted by : zzzzzzzzzzzzz
9/23/2012 2:34:11 PM
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hey suckers...you erased the guy i was arguing with that said to "kill the christians"---



you dont have to censor people to be pussies to being politically correct

thats the robot thinking dumbass pre internet clinton way of dealing with information

fucking pussies--trying to hard---it is sickening---but typical
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COMMENT | Losers
posted by : RedZombie
9/23/2012 3:20:38 PM
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People can believe what they like. And that should be it, I'm not gonna trash anyone for being Christian. Because i'm not a dumbass douchebag. Good for him.


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COMMENT | Superstition
posted by : anvilheadsixsix
9/23/2012 3:28:21 PM
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All religions are childish, ignorant superstitions. Grow up people. Embrace logic and reason and I promise you that it will improve your life more than any mythical being or fictional character ever could.


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posted by : Raistlin420
9/23/2012 4:16:44 PM
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@superstition
Logic and reasoning?, ok so Logic and Reason tells us Hundreds of thousands of years ago there was a random explosion that randomly created One Random Molecule that happened to randomly end up on or near a random underwater geyser that heated said molecule to exactly the right Random temperature in order for a random event to take place that then went on to create all the random Life forms on this little random rock we now call Earth. All from a random primordial ooze.
........and your guys argument against this is that God can't be real because you've never seen him?.
Lol Logic and Reason.....there's one downfall i can think of that immediately comes to mind(There of course will be more but this 1 springs immediately to mind) when mention of Logic and Reason are presented to us and that is this, Exactly Whose Logic and Reason my good fellow? whose logic and reason?.
Look what happened to saaaaay i don't know The MANSON Family when they followed Charlies logic and reason. What abut Germany Following Hitlers logic and reason? Not close enough in history for you?...How about America following G.W after 9/11 Now Theres some SOUND LOGIC AND REASON FOR YA. even the citizens themselves know the war on terror was/is wrong yet where is all the logic and reasoning there my man?.
Simply put if it gives you hope/faith/ a reason to believe and it helps make you a better person( Honestly expressing oneself) Then who are we to tell them DIFFERENT.
P.S GOD LOVES

Even the superstitous
Have a nice day and God Bless You and Yours.


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posted by : TheKarlMarxAbortion
9/23/2012 4:29:57 PM
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Uh oh, do we have a new public enemy #...3? Behind Mustaine and Nugent? Or have I left someone out? Blabbermouth reminds me of the media in general today. They pick a target, print )or post) somethign they know will turn the rabble against them, and viola! New villain. It's amazing though what they need to use to villainize people, stuff that is not really anything bad whatsoever. Strange times indeed.


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COMMENT | Wow!!
posted by : madeofmetal1
9/23/2012 9:38:21 PM
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OK! It seems that anytime anyone throws their Christian beliefs out there, they are cast off as being dumb, ignorant, close-minded, whatever, etc.. But the time anyone throws a wrench into Christian beliefs, they are praised as a genius. It's all belief, and ego. Plus the fact that this nation was founded on Judeo Christian beliefs. These days, no matter what, you can't win. Everyone has their thing! Just stick to it! If you like Stryper and Tourniquet, great!! If you like Deicide and Gorgoroth, that's great too. Don't let it be your guiding force on this planet. Music is music. You like it, or you don't. It's as simple as that.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Wow!!'
posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
9/24/2012 3:03:37 AM
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If by "this nation," you're referring to the United States of America, you're wrong. America was definitely not founded on Christian beliefs and principals. Feel free to research what the founding fathers had to say about religion and Christianity. You'll find that you are wrong. And enough with this "live and let live" bullshit! Christianity waged war on atheists a long time ago. Don't blame me for having the balls to fight back.


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posted by : Rob Onez
9/24/2012 12:49:28 AM
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Donald Duck, The Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, Bugs Bunny, God..
..these aren't actual beings, Mr. Jericho, they're made-up.

Nobody had your back, you've just been fortunate.



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COMMENT | Amazing....
posted by : spaceace69
9/24/2012 9:40:18 AM
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Ever hear of the people who never believe changing their tune when it comes to the end of their life? Not saying all, but a lot do. And just picture yourself, after finding out you have terminal cancer or are involved in a near fatal accident....laying there. I'm sure you are so tough that you will just say, oh well that's it, I'm a goner.....it's been nice. Nah. You'll probably be the first ones to say...please if there is a god, help me. Help me survive this. If only so I can continue to spout shit on blabbermouth. Or maybe come back here and admit you were wrong.


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COMMENT | spaceacce69
posted by : Big Ol' Titties
9/24/2012 11:08:53 AM
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You sir, are correct. And prove my original point. Thank you.


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posted by : entenus
9/24/2012 3:18:05 PM
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all i can say is ... check out the "RED LAMB" ... they believe in God too ...


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posted by : MetalHeadd
9/25/2012 7:09:15 PM
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Go Chris!

And hIlarious to see all the atheist dummies on here. Sad but entertaining! Thanks!


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COMMENT | Sigh..
posted by : andrew the bringer
10/5/2012 6:08:37 PM
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It amazes me, the hatred that gets thrown back and forth over topics like this. I do have a few things that point more towards there actucally being a creator, and too many for it to just be "coincidence"
Gravitational coupling constant If larger: No stars less than 1.4 solar masses, hence short stellar life spans
If smaller: No stars more than 0.8 solar masses, hence no heavy element production
2 Strong nuclear force coupling constant If larger: No hydrogen; nuclei essential for life are unstable
If smaller: No elements other than hydrogen
3 Weak nuclear force coupling constant If larger: All hydrogen is converted to helium in the big bang, hence too much heavy elements
If smaller: No helium produced from big bang, hence not enough heavy elements
4 Electromagnetic coupling constant If larger: No chemical bonding; elements more massive than boron are unstable to fission
If smaller: No chemical bonding
5 Ratio of protons to electrons formation If larger: Electromagnetism dominates gravity preventing galaxy, star, and planet formation
If smaller: Electromagnetism dominates gravity preventing galaxy, star, and planet formation
6 Ratio of electron to proton mass If larger: No chemical bonding
If smaller: No chemical bonding
7 Expansion rate of the universe If larger: No galaxy formation
If smaller: Universe collapses prior to star formation
8 Entropy level of universe If larger: No star condensation within the proto-galaxies
If smaller: No proto-galaxy formation
9 Mass density of the universe If larger: Too much deuterium from big bang, hence stars burn too rapidly
If smaller: No helium from big bang, hence not enough heavy elements
10 Age of the universe If older: No solar-type stars in a stable burning phase in the right part of the galaxy
If younger: Solar-type stars in a stable burning phase would not yet have formed
11 Initial uniformity of radiation If smoother: Stars, star clusters, and galaxies would not have formed
If coarser: Universe by now would be mostly black holes and empty space
12 Average distance between stars If larger: Heavy element density too thin for rocky planet production
If smaller: Planetary orbits become destabilized

Just a few examples...
And, if the world, planets, sun, etc.. have always been here.. well, the sun is a star.. it won't last forever. For there to be an end, would there not be a beginning?


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