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QUEENSRŸCHE Bassist: GEOFF TATE's Irrational, Violent Behavior Still Poses A Threat To Us - July 11, 2012
QUEENSRŸCHE members Michael Wilton, Eddie Jackson, Scott Rockenfield and Parker Lundgren announced on June 20 that they were parting ways with singer Geoff Tate and recruiting powerhouse vocalist Todd La Torre of CRIMSON GLORY as his replacement. The new QUEENSRŸCHE lineup has already performed live, having played two shows in their home city of Seattle under the name RISING WEST.

In a recent interview with RollingStone.com, Tate revealed that he filed a lawsuit against his former bandmates on June 12 in King County Superior Court in the state of Washington in order to "sort out who is what, and who owns what, and that stuff." Tate is also attempting to get a court injunction against Wilton, Jackson and Rockenfield that would prevent them from using the name QUEENSRŸCHE for their new group.

On Monday, July 9, Wilton, Jackson and Rockenfield filed a response to Tate's motion for preliminary injunction and included individual declarations from all of the defendants supporting their position that Tate's motion should be denied. As one would expect, these documents — copies of which have been obtained by BLABBERMOUTH.NET — contain startling details about the circumstances that led to the split between the singer and his one-time friends and longtime bandmates.

In his sworn declaration, Eddie Jackson writes, in part, "While we were recording the band's fifth album that was released on EMI Records called 'Promised Land', Geoff Tate had been experiencing marital problems. I'm sure he had a very difficult time focusing on both his marriage while also trying to be creative; however, while in the studio, I witnessed something that was a bit disturbing. I was sitting at a table reading some of the band's fan mail and started hearing yelling and cursing. As I turned my head towards the direction it was coming from, that's when I saw Geoff Tate slam through one of the studio doors while screaming at Chris DeGarmo from two feet away, yelling something in the likes of. 'Don't bring any more of your bulls**t here. I don't need any more of your bulls**t!' He was in such rage I thought he was going to physically assault Chris DeGarmo. He continued to yell a couple more expletives and just walked away. Chris DeGarmo, like a true gentleman, just kept his composure and started walking towards the front door. I wanted to share this incident because to this day Scott Rockenfield, Michael Wilton and I have continued to witness this type of random violent behavior from Geoff Tate on several occasions when he gets extremely angry and upset.

"After the album release for 'Hear And The Now Frontier', followed by an extensive tour, it was evident that something wasn't right. Since Geoff Tate didn't write any music, we continued to collectively submit to him various musical compositions to work on. However, Chris DeGarmo had been very quiet with very little communication. Chris DeGarmo finally contacted everyone to schedule a band meeting where he informed us he had made a decision to leave the band.

"Over the course of the next five album releases ('Q2K', 'Tribe', 'Operation: Mindcrime II', 'American Soldier' and 'Dedicated To Chaos') the band had gone through three guitar players, four management firms and five record companies.

"After Chris DeGarmo left, the band he was adamant about hiring Kelly Gray as the next QUEENSRŸCHE guitar player. We had also severed ties with Q-Prime Management that had been managing us for about eight years, and decided to hire Ray Daniels, who at the time was also managing the bands RUSH and VAN HALEN. Once again, since Geoff Tate didn't write any music, and the band continued to collectively submit to him various musical compositions for the next album called 'Q2K'.

"Kelly Gray did not write the whole album with Geoff Tate as he claims. Michael Wilton, Scott Rockenfield, Kelly Gray and I spent many hours writing song ideas collectively and individually.

"After just one album and an extensive tour with Kelly Gray, Geoff Tate refused to continue working with him because of his substance abuse and Kelly Gray was eventually fired. Geoff Tate also decided to fire our manager, Ray Daniels.

"Michael Wilton, Scott Rockenfield and I weren't too pleased with the firing of Ray Daniels, but to avoid Geoff Tate's random violent behavior, we decided it would be best to just keep our distance and not start an argument. Lars Sorenson was hired as the new QUEENSRŸCHE band manager. Susan Tate (Geoff's wife) was already working with Lars Sorensen as an assistant.

"After a year later, Geoff Tate decided to fire Lars Sorensen and conveniently hire his wife Susan Tate as manager. Michael Wilton, Scott Rockenfield and I knew it was a recipe for disaster and had no choice but to accept the idea if Geoff Tate was to continue working with the band.

"Before recording the album 'Tribe', frustration started to build with Michael Wilton, Scott Rockenfield and I towards Geoff Tate in regards to songwriting, the type of direction the band should be taking, along with certain decisions made by Geoff Tate that he did not allow us to take part in. He was creating a negative energy around our work environment. In fact, his wife Susan Tate emailed us and said that 'my husband has a dark side… I'm having a difficult time trying to reach out to him!'

"Geoff Tate spiritually had removed himself from QUEENSRŸCHE and basically stepped away for about a year and decided to record his own album; however, at the same time, causing a serious detriment to the QUEENSRŸCHE brand. Michael Wilton, Scott Rockenfield and I, along with Mike Stone, continued to write music and compositions for obvious reasons and eventually submitted them to Geoff Tate. In fact, we even rented a studio room at Bear Creek Studios in Woodinville, WA for two weeks to compose. Geoff Tate would on occasion stop in from time to time after riding his motorcycle to hear the various compositions we had written.

"Chris DeGarmo had been invited to participate on the 'Tribe' record. He recorded and composed several songs.

"When Chris DeGarmo was in the band, he used to take part in a lot of Geoff Tate's vocals sessions, and they would work together creating vocal harmony ideas, etc. However, Geoff Tate's demeanor continued and when it was actually his turn to start recording, he rudely told Chris DeGarmo that he wasn't needed. Not a pleasant, 'Hey, thanks for coming back and recording with the band' attitude, especially toward someone who used to be in the band for 15 years and had written arguably the most popular song QUEENSRŸCHE had ever recorded! As usual, Chris DeGarmo, like a true gentleman, just kept his composure and simply got up and left.

"It wasn't long before we started to question some of Geoff and Susan Tate's business decisions. Michael Wilton, Scott Rockenfield and I continued to witness the same disrespectful, controlling negativity from Geoff and Susan Tate and Jason Slater during the writing process for the album 'American Soldier'. The three of us refused to work with Jason Slater again; however, Geoff and Susan Tate paid no attention to us and decided to hire Jason Slater again as co-producer. Once again, Scott Rockenfield, Michael Wilton and I had no voice in the decision. Our working environment had become very stressful.

"'American Soldier' sold approximately 60k copies. That's less than half of what the last album 'Operation: Mincrime' sold.

"As usual, the band continued to submit song ideas to Geoff Tate [for what became the album 'Dedicated To Chaos'] without any musical composition or contribution from him. We all worked long hours collectively and individually for several months.

"Geoff and Susan Tate insisted on hiring Jason Slater once again, even though the rest of us disapproved because of the problems we had encountered with him from before. Our stress levels were high and simply could not voice our opinion on the matter since they fell on deaf ears if we were heard at all.

"During the course of recording, Kelly Gray would continue criticizing Geoff Tate's song selections and decisions and simply said, 'This isn‘t the direction the band should be going.' Kelly Gray had also commented on how he had been underpaid and mistreated by Geoff and Susan Tate.

"Our last album called 'Dedicated To Chaos' was the band's most criticized effort to date. It was not well received. This was a band direction Geoff Tate insisted on taking even though the rest of us had disagreed.

"As you can see by QUEENSRŸCHE's last three album releases, sales have declined significantly during Susan Tate's involvement as band manager, in addition with Jason Slater's and Kelly Gray's involvement. Kelly Gray had also taken notice of the band's decline in records sales and direction and commented several times that 'Susan Tate as band manager has run out of gas, and you should considered seeking new band management.'

"In the 30 years as a band, we have never submitted a hard copy paper form via USPS to schedule corporate officers/shareholders meetings. Every meeting has been scheduled through phone conversations and also, texting and emailing when it had become available as another form of communications.

"While on tour a couple of years ago I remember having an argument with Susan Tate over a tour bus issue and she was quoted as saying… 'I have to do what's in the best interest of MY HUSBAND to keep him happy' instead of saying… 'I have to do what's in the best interest of the BAND!' It obviously shows that she wasn't representing the band as a whole.

"The continuous nepotism from Geoff and Susan during her involvement with the band had caused many arguments, generated more tension and a high level of emotional stress on Michael, Scott and I.

"Since January of 2012 a notice of a shareholder and/or corporate officers meetings (approximately 4-5) were submitted to every band member. Michael, Scott and I were always present at these meetings, however, Geoff refused to take part in any of them without a valid reason.

"Michael, Scott and I constantly tried to find ways to minimize costs, however, at the same time maximize our dollar. Geoff's idea was always… 'Why do we need to worry about cutting costs?… We'll just find a way to just make more money!' Not very good business sense especially with the economic recession we've been experiencing over the last 4 years!

"We had a discussion about the current fan club office situation because it was costing the band so much money monthly, and especially since we weren't performing many shows in 2012 we weren‘t going to generate a lot of revenue. Basically, more money was going out than was coming in. The idea of hiring an online company to do this was much more cost effective in comparison. Geoff refused to go along with the idea because his wife and daughter were on the payroll. Needless to say, after eliminating the rental office lease payment, employee payroll, utility expenses and accounting fee's the bands accountant Neil Sussman was also in agreement of the amount of money the band would be saving on a yearly basis by switching to an online merchandise company per an email he submitted to all the band members.

"From March 2012 till to this day Scott, Michael and I have been denied access to the band's web site (Facebook, Twitter, PayPal accounts).

"While on tour in 2007, Geoff Tate physically assaulted Scott Rockenfield in the band's dressing room over another disagreement. He grabbed Scott Rockenfield's laptop and shoved it in his face and proceeded to swing at Scott Rockenfield while screaming expletives at him.

"Geoff Tate has made several comments about how he despises the hard
rock/heavy metal genre which is what QUEENSRŸCHE's style has been from the very beginning.

"Twice in the fall of 2011 while on tour, Geoff Tate's irrational, violent behavior surfaced again after a discussion we had regarding songs that fans have been requesting us to perform for quite a few years. While the rest of the band were in agreement with the fans, he screamed in disapproval, 'I don't want to play those stupid songs. I didn't write them!' and stormed out of the dressing room in a violent rage.

"Moments before performing a show in Sao Paulo, Brazil, Geoff Tate physically assaulted Scott Rockenfield and Michael Wilton several times in front of a dozen witnesses including the band crew, the opening act, FATES WARNING, the local promoter, his assistant and among a few others. He even told our tour manager after he physically assaulted Scott Rockenfield and Michael Wilton that 'I'm going to f**k with Scott throughout the show,' and was repeatedly spitting on Scott Rockenfield's drum kit and Michael Wilton's guitars and amplifiers through the course of the night. At the end of the show, our tour manager told us to not go to our dressing room and go straight to the vans and to our hotel because he was afraid Geoff Tate would try to physically assault one of us again. He even had the hotel place security on each floor next to our hotel rooms that night for our own safety.

"Geoff Tate's claim regarding Scott Rockenfield's comment ('I've fired your wife, your daughter and now you're next!') is completely false, and even our band crew who were present at the time of the incident would testify to that.

"Several weeks following the Sao Paulo incident in Brazil at the M3 Festival in Baltimore MD, Geoff Tate continued to make threats to Scott Rockenfield, Michael Wilton and I if were to get near him while performing on stage.

"Another several weeks later, Geoff Tate's rant 'you guys suck' to the fans while performing a show in Oklahoma was extremely unprofessional and has only continued to damage the QUEENSRŸCHE brand name.

"Geoff Tate's continued random threats and irrational, violent behavior still poses a threat to Scott Rockenfield, Michael Wilton and me, and has caused a significant amount of stress and we therefore cannot continue working with him in the future."

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posted by : AtopCrystalMountain
7/11/2012 7:37:58 PM
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The only danger Geoff Tate poses is to the world of music. God only knows what he make now.........


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posted by : i.miss.the.cows
7/11/2012 7:45:48 PM
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Geoff Taint should get Harley Flanagan outta jail and put on a stabaret show.


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posted by : Tama Basher
7/11/2012 8:56:47 PM
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stabaret = awesome


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COMMENT | Behind the Music
posted by : rando
7/11/2012 7:46:05 PM
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Talk about lost profits! If all this shit had been released in a book, it would have sold ten times more than their last album.


Geoff Tate is soon to become the most hated man in metal. Good luck with that solo career!


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COMMENT | Well...
posted by : Wronginfo
7/11/2012 7:46:46 PM
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... Jackson is the one guy Tate didn't hit, I guess Eddie would be the one to fight back and kick his ass.

I wonder how many interview requests Chris DeGarmo is getting today?


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COMMENT | Wheh
posted by : skligge
7/11/2012 7:47:17 PM
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I have one word to say, PUSSY. The only time in 30 years Geoff freaked out was when the other band members told him 10 minutes before going on stage that they fired his wife, and daughter in law and called him a chump. While I don't think he should of spit on the guys, one can understand. They are making excuses up and will eventually go after him for monitary value for pain and usffering. They kicked him out. Als Scott is selling his Rising West drum kit on Ebay, can you say "I need money"


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COMMENT | 'RE: Wheh'
posted by : Dr. Unk
7/11/2012 8:05:21 PM
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Douchenozzle


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COMMENT | 'RE: Wheh'
posted by : Riotass666
7/11/2012 8:34:20 PM
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skligge = Geoff Taint hi Geoff you asshole fuck you


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COMMENT | Right on Geoff! ...er, I mean skligge
posted by : rando
7/11/2012 7:59:20 PM
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The uniformly consistent statements being told by the band (with names of corroborating witnesses) is the story of a fifteen-year long freakout that only the most peaceful guys on the planet would have ever tolerated. I would have busted a chair over that assholes head for any one of at least ten of the incidents described.


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COMMENT | Wait!
posted by : Dr. Unk
7/11/2012 8:00:22 PM
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Do you hear it? Chris DeGarmo is ready to fire one off.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Wait!'
posted by : Riotass666
7/11/2012 8:35:50 PM
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I fucking hope so! That would just be the final icing on the cake, wouldn't it? Let's tie up the last loose ends here and then relaunch Queensryche with Todd as the singer.


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posted by : BillyM67
7/11/2012 8:02:13 PM
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@skligge...are you really Goeff Tate? Yes, he needs money, because thanks to Geoff their records aren't selling and no one wants to play any concert with his crazy ass....wake up numb nuts!


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COMMENT | hmmm...
posted by : JOHNNY SNOT
7/11/2012 8:08:26 PM
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"reading some of the band's fanmail"....edbass.

man, he's laying it on thick, isn't he.

saying that, i'm pretty sure that geoff is every bit the douche he, mike and scott claim.


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COMMENT | These Guys
posted by : RockShowTrader.Com
7/11/2012 8:13:44 PM
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were shit on by Geoff for so many years it's going to take a good while before it's all cleaned up.

Geoff you were awesome, one of the absolute best. But your time is over, been over for a while now. Thank you, and goodbye.


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COMMENT | hmmm...
posted by : JOHNNY SNOT
7/11/2012 8:20:34 PM
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and i've got to agree with tate on one thing...if these guys put up with him spitting on them and cursing at them for all these years, then they are indeed "pussies", as geoff claims.


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posted by : RiotAct666
7/11/2012 8:24:56 PM
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DeGarmo is somewhere laughing out loud at you Geoff Tate.


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COMMENT | Ok
posted by : dt2
7/11/2012 8:37:35 PM
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The writing was on the wall way before the Sao Paulo concert. For these guys to let this shit go on for that long tells me that something else was going on.


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posted by : Tama Basher
7/11/2012 9:00:59 PM
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Of course something else was going on. Their mortgage payments. They didn't want to risk firing Tate while they were still having some success and before they had a perfect replacement on the radar.

Once the money sunk so low it no longer helped having Tate in the band AND they found La Torre, the decision was easier.


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COMMENT | Good job Ed Bass
posted by : Riotass666
7/11/2012 8:38:59 PM
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They all have made some of the same points in their sworn testimony, including the very important Geoff Taint only wrote lyrics and never wrote a Queensryche song alone. Taint will of course lie and continue to claim Queensryche is all his creation, but it's his word against 3 other original members. He will lose.

Fuck Geoff Taint, and fuck his wife and daughters too. Actually no, I wouldn't fuck those Taint hags.


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posted by : ParasiteLost
7/12/2012 1:22:19 AM
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Not to mention the guys have witnesses for the things they describe and now they even have video evidence! Whereas Geoff has nothing.


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posted by : phoenix87
7/11/2012 8:43:37 PM
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Geoff Tate is this year's Mike Portnoy.


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posted by : TheKarlMarxAbortion
7/11/2012 11:40:55 PM
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There's the Portnoy comparison again. There IS no comparison, if you equate the two you are as delusional as Tate.


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COMMENT | So Long QR
posted by : SARidg
7/11/2012 8:45:02 PM
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I love this band and have been a fan since 82', but this is it. These knuckleheads should have kept this quiet, instead of fighting through the press.


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posted by : Scatter
7/11/2012 8:45:26 PM
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And Geoff Tate's voice is the only reason that anyone even knew who the fuck you were.


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posted by : pigchop
7/11/2012 9:14:44 PM
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Bullshit.


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COMMENT | Proof
posted by : viking666
7/11/2012 8:45:29 PM
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Check this video out at the 3:58 mark. This makes me sick.


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COMMENT | proof
posted by : viking666
7/11/2012 8:45:55 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-68ioMFgbc&feature=player_embedded#!


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COMMENT | retire the name
posted by : graemed
7/11/2012 8:50:56 PM
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I understand they want to make $ from rebuilding the Queensryche name but I think they could get a lot of traction by keeping Rising West, record a new album, and playing whatever songs they like on tour. Its not like a new "Queensryche" album is going to sell any more records now anyway.


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posted by : Evil_Twin
7/12/2012 2:24:36 AM
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Probably not, but the money is in touring. They can make a shitload more money rebuilding the name as a touring act than trying to start something from the ground up that the average person has never heard of.


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posted by : DMR
7/11/2012 8:55:53 PM
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Wow, Tate's ex bandmates have basically taken him out execution style with these disclosures. Can you imagine what the ex members of Guns n' Roses might have to say if they were willing to talk about all the behind the scenes shit w/ Axl? It would be pure gold. We've probably heard like 2% of what was really going on.

I wanted to believe Tate and take him at his word, but i've seen this before with Guns. When everybody has the same story except one guy........the one guy is usually the one full of shit.


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posted by : Mr. Shit
7/11/2012 8:56:44 PM
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Alright, where's Scott's press release?!


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posted by : monkeytime
7/11/2012 9:04:28 PM
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These aren't press releases. They are sworn statements to the court. Tate is seeking an injunction against the other band members so they can't play as Queensryche.


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posted by : 11:11
7/11/2012 10:14:11 PM
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they're probably saving the best one for last.


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posted by : pigchop
7/11/2012 9:04:54 PM
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Wow, man - the band should have shit canned the fucker years ago. At the very least, they should have quit and started up a new band. And if the name does become a problem, fuck it - change it.


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posted by : Zardoz79
7/11/2012 9:10:24 PM
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Im waiting for the Degarmo press release


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posted by : TheKarlMarxAbortion
7/11/2012 11:47:13 PM
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I doubt he'll give a statement, since he won't have a stake in the decision on whether they can use the Queensryche name...or will he?


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COMMENT | VIDEO OF Tate spitting on a band member.
posted by : pigchop
7/11/2012 9:13:49 PM
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At 3:58 - watch for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-68ioMFgbc&feature=player_embedded#!


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COMMENT | 'RE: VIDEO OF Tate spitting on a band member.'
posted by : dt2
7/11/2012 9:22:03 PM
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That's real disturbing, to do that to fellow human being let alone a co worker and bandmate is beyond fucked up. The guy just takes it too. You have hand it to the rest of these guys for keeping cool for so long.

Tate will be blackballed by fellow bands. No one will tour with him after this fiasco. It's career suicide. He's fucked now, he's become the Lindsay Lohan of the metal scene.


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COMMENT | 'RE: VIDEO OF Tate spitting on a band member.'
posted by : 11:11
7/11/2012 10:22:50 PM
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jesus christ... reading about it is one thing but actually seeing it is something on a whole other level. I can't believe Scott didn't jump over the kit and dry-rape that shithead with a brick of drumsticks.
I remember an interview w/ Tate around the time all this went down and he said something along the line of "I'm so happy I woke up alive today. Another day to live." ...yeah pal, behaving like that, you ought to be thankful you're still breathing.

What an asshole!


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COMMENT | Queensrÿche
posted by : V?rcolac
7/11/2012 9:15:40 PM
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I think Michael Wilton, Eddie Jackson, Scott Rockenfield and Parker Lundgren could make a band, try to get the Queensryche name but if is not possible due to that MOFO Geoff Tate, is ok you are a talented guys... GO AND MAKE A NEW BAND!.

Geoff Tate could go to the hell he creates around him, maybe he needs a medical treatment or so. If he wants the Queensrÿche trade rights or he wins this "barbie fight behavior" I'm sure he would never go so far with that attitude.

Rock and metal is beyond of any arrogant dude!

Greetings from a brand new band called Gadon. I took this and Bill Ward's as a good lesson.

Rock on!.


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COMMENT | The end of a long nightmare, for so many people
posted by : rando
7/11/2012 9:27:41 PM
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I've been a music junkie for over 30 years, and I have never gone crazy over a band like I flipped over Queensryche during their peak, for their albums and their live show. But I have been consistently devastated by their releases for the last fifteen years, and I never understood what the fucking problem was. Now I do.

I am so fuckin' psyched for the next album.


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COMMENT | 'RE: The end of a long nightmare, for so many people'
posted by : TheKarlMarxAbortion
7/11/2012 11:51:08 PM
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I always knew deep down the other guys couldn't possibly like the direction they were going. I mean look at Wilton, does he look like a guy who would write shit like what's on DTC, or perform in a cabaret show unless basically forced to?


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posted by : TexasDog
7/11/2012 9:32:02 PM
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Ray Daniels...hmmm, you mean Ray Danniels?

the man who killed Van Halen? Read that two chapter Sammy Hagar excerpt that Danniels sued to prevent release. He's a piece of work

http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f77/sammy-hagar-book-excerpts-chapters-19amp20-a-22489.html


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COMMENT | Damn...
posted by : Abyss_of_Blood
7/11/2012 9:36:45 PM
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These boys are pissed! They are completely crucifying Geoff without mercy or restraint. Obviously, they put up with Geoff's shit for far too long, probably because yes, he is a huge reason Queensryche got on the map. But how much shit should someone have to put up with? Plus, it's a fucking band! Not a solo act.

Scott, Michael and Eddie make the point that the music behind the vocals is key and I agree. Despite Geoff's incredible voice, who knows if he would have ever made it on his own in the first place? Geoff's voice is great, but it's the combination of his voice with the power of the band that made Queensryche who they are. The key word there is power.

Someone here said that all the stuff these guys are saying isn't true because Geoff would have to be insane. Well, he is insane. He certainly isn't rational and who tells their own fans that they suck? A fucking insane dumbass, that's who.

What exactly was Geoff's endgame in all this? Was he trying to destroy the band so the rest of the guys would give it up and he could keep his solo career while still cashing in on Queensryche's past? That's fucked up. Some might even say "insane". It gives the phrase "Dedicated To Chaos" a whole new meaning and light I hadn't thought of before.

They have every right to kick Geoff's sorry ass out, get some new blood and go back out kicking ass as "Queensryche". They are too good not to.

Good luck boys! Can't wait to hear some new material from you!


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posted by : tyranakok
7/11/2012 10:00:05 PM
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I smell embezzlement.
I also see a nice mug shot on the local news in the near future for anger-boy.


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posted by : MarlaHooch
7/11/2012 10:07:19 PM
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This is like Spinal Tap goes to law school.

Freaking gold.

Ya'll enjoying the most reading you've ever done in your lives? :-P


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COMMENT | girls
posted by : kliffee
7/11/2012 10:18:04 PM
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4-1 and he poses a threat? grow some balls, boys! smack that satan-lookin' twat!


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COMMENT | 'RE: girls'
posted by : 11:11
7/11/2012 10:29:18 PM
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easier said than done when that satan-looking twat and his wife are essentially your boss and you need a paycheck to send home to keep bills paid, mouths fed and backs clothed.

..still man... I hear you. How did they not squat & shit all over this dudes cold-cut tray backstage!?


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COMMENT | "After the album release for 'Hear And The Now Frontier'"
posted by : zappafrank
7/11/2012 10:21:02 PM
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Um, "Hear IN the Now Frontier."

Since this is a legal document and all, I could imagine a lawyer trying to use this mistake against them.


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posted by : deerock
7/11/2012 10:30:40 PM
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Geoff Tate despised the Heavy Metal/Hard Rock community?

The guy's a fraud, that's what it is. He can sing Cabaret in his solo career or whatever the fuck he wants. He can piss off!

Bring back Chris deGarmo.


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COMMENT | Kelly Gray
posted by : zappafrank
7/11/2012 10:31:39 PM
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Not sure if he's supposed to be portrayed in a positive or negative light throughout all of this


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COMMENT | 'RE: Kelly Gray'
posted by : DirtbagMessiah
7/12/2012 2:59:25 AM
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Yeah no kidding. Based on Eddie's accounts, Kelly was an asset and a liability.


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COMMENT | Ummm...
posted by : megarockradio
7/11/2012 10:32:41 PM
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What a bunch of crybabies. You're all grown men. And the entire rest of the band is scared of one man? having a hard time believing this crap. Don't these boys know they are just publicly destroying any chance the band has to continue by crying like this?

Go do your thing with your new borrowed singer. Tate will do his. Stop crying like little girls.


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posted by : bringbackacidbath
7/11/2012 10:36:10 PM
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So many dumb fuckers on here asking why someone would put up with this behavior for so long??

It's because Geoff was the face of the band you retards, and they wanted to retain the ability to pay their fucking bills.

I just hope one day I get the chance to spit on ole baldy myself.


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posted by : CorpseGrinder2010
7/11/2012 11:09:12 PM
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Anyone who gets violent to prove their badassery is most assuredly a huge pussy. Fuck you Geoff Tate.


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COMMENT | Its almost
posted by : norwegian1882
7/11/2012 11:51:54 PM
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like all this is scripted: Insania (insania??!!), Dedicated to chaos (look inside!), Big Noize (gonna make big noizee!!).

I'm not buying this whole "GT is evil" narrative. I can smell the bs from far away. This must be some kind of "stunt." DTC is on roadrunner, blabbermouth (also roadrunner) runs long loong stories ... almost like a book. I know something about GT: He is extremely intelligent, and he would never get himself into something like this (unless ...?).

Damm that Tate and QR!


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COMMENT | Waaaaahhhhhh
posted by : San Diego Kid
7/12/2012 12:51:22 AM
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Well if Geoff Tate did any of those things to me he would get one warning and then it would be on like Sonnen vs Silva


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posted by : seventh77
7/12/2012 1:02:23 AM
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pathetic. in some years they will reunite and everything will be ok (for their accounts)


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COMMENT | Lol
posted by : tartareandesire
7/12/2012 2:37:16 AM
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This is getting tiresome... Queensrÿche is nothing without Tate, Tate is nothing without Queensrÿche. This band is over since ten years back...


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COMMENT | too much information
posted by : blood_come
7/12/2012 2:52:07 AM
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we dont need to hear such a long winded explanation and you dont need to defend your self . How hard should you try before you sound partly guilty .
Just do the deed .
we've seen this kind of thing happen so many times where one person brings about the firing of many other members .


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posted by : Double Shit-Talkin Jive
7/12/2012 4:12:41 AM
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Geoff Tate is a complete jackass


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COMMENT | This Band Has Turned Gay
posted by : Eatfucksuck
7/12/2012 6:37:50 AM
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With The He Said She Said Bullshit.


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COMMENT | deposition!!!
posted by : brir
7/12/2012 8:26:53 AM
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this is not 'he said she said' these are LEGAL depositions that were made public, in a lawsuit to determine who has the right to the QR name. The other 3 original members need to show as many examples as possible as to why Tate hurt their reputation, ability to make money, their 'brand' etc. That's why these are so long, it's pretty standard for depositions. They aren't press releases!!!


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COMMENT | ^^^^^
posted by : bringbackacidbath
7/12/2012 9:13:57 AM
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EXACTLY


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posted by : The Barnacle
7/12/2012 10:02:32 AM
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I wouldn't have cared for anything that happened, or was happening through the years, besides on thing, and one thing only:

"Geoff Tate has made several comments about how he despises the hard
rock/heavy metal genre which is what QUEENSRŸCHE's style has been from the very beginning.

to me, THAT'S IT: YOU'RE FIRED.
I would have (collectively with all other members) fired his ass, let him go and do his solo/cabaret/pop Crap with Susan and Miranda, and leave the legacy of Queensryche alone, for what it was: THE MIGHTY QUEENSRYCHE.

Also would have tried hiring DeGarmo back. Now that I know why he fucking left, I feel bad for him, because it is clear now that Queensryche was also his band, his pride that he put blood sweat and tears in it, only to feel obliged leaving the band because of a moron, not interested in metal, loser, douchebag like Tate.



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posted by : Woke Up Dead
7/12/2012 10:13:32 AM
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This guy sure remembers a lot about the past 18 years; seemingly quite vividly. I just read the book Subliminal by Leonard Mlodinow. It talks primarily about the subconscious but there is A LOT about how the memory works. People generally think of their memory like a picture or a movie, so just like they trust what their eyes see or their ears hear, they trust their memories as fact. The problem is that your memory can be VERY flawed. So I would take a lot of that tirade above with a grain of salt.

Anyway, as much as this Tate character sounds like a dick, I’m sure there is MUCH more bullshit that piled up over the years between all of these guys and there is always 2 sides to every story.

Oh yeah. I saw the video. No way can you tell me he spit AT the drummer. That’s about as accurate as Randy Blythe throwing fans into his pit of death.


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COMMENT | Damn
posted by : NowThatsWhatICallMetal
7/13/2012 1:50:49 AM
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Like every story, both sides are always grossly exaggerated, but I believe most of this 100%. Tate seems like a such a poser douche...He has (well, had) a fantastic voice that rivaled the top of the metal genre of their time, and many still enjoy today. Almost everyone, even on BM, like QR's earlier material.

It's obvious Taint wanted this "Money making contemporary" sound that RUINED the QR...if I was the judge during that injunction, not only would I side with the band for the ability to legally use the QR name, I'd punish Geoff for what he's done to it in the past few years (well, throughout most of their career, but he got much more publicly retarded as the years went on).

Do I believe that Geoff stormed out yelling "No. Cuz I didn't write them"....not in those words. I'm sure that's probably the reason he didn't want to, but that part of the story makes the band seem like they were sitting there with halo's on their head wanting to do every request the fans wanted, and Tate was threatening them all and yelling "I only wanna do the songs I wrote! Fuck the fans and fuck you all!" Seems a little over-the-top. No one needs to tell me Geoff doesn't care about the fans....listen to what he's been passing off as Queensryche! There's more hints of Maroon 5 in "Dedicated to Chaos" than metal. THIS is why their album sales are dropping...the decline in album sales in general between downloading/the music industry/economy, the quality of the work they're releasing doesn't match up to the worst song on the album that preceded it, Tate's mouth and his remarks against metal music, and the bullshit drama we'd expect to hear from a fucking girly ass boy band.

Stick with Rising West guys, you deserve to be treated better than one of Tate's dingleberries. Good luck on that solo career, Tate. I can't see many fans supporting you after shit-talking metal and single-handedly ruining the Queensryche name and legacy with your debauchery, douche.


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COMMENT | BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT........
posted by : robotbaby
7/18/2012 6:55:04 AM
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Proof that most people on this subject are closed minded idiots...

"One of the songs I wrote on the record is called “Around The World” and was completely inspired by Moby, of all people, who I was deep into that week for some reason. I was listening to a bunch of Moby stuff on my iPod. I like him. I think he’s an interesting guy who does his own thing, which I really find intriguing...
Scott Rockenfield

This thing is NOT as blakck and white as people are painting it.
re the departure of Tate, the word "Scapegoat" springs to mind...


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