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QUEENSRŸCHE Drummer: We Had 'No Choice But To Move On Without' GEOFF TATE - July 10, 2012
QUEENSRŸCHE members Michael Wilton, Eddie Jackson, Scott Rockenfield and Parker Lundgren announced on June 20 that they were parting ways with singer Geoff Tate and recruiting powerhouse vocalist Todd La Torre of CRIMSON GLORY as his replacement. The new QUEENSRŸCHE lineup has already performed live, having played two shows in their home city of Seattle under the name RISING WEST.

In a recent interview with RollingStone.com, Tate revealed that he filed a lawsuit against his former bandmates on June 12 in King County Superior Court in the state of Washington in order to "sort out who is what, and who owns what, and that stuff." Tate is also attempting to get a court injunction against Wilton, Jackson and Rockenfield that would prevent them from using the name QUEENSRŸCHE for their new group.

On Monday, July 9, Wilton, Jackson and Rockenfield filed a response to Tate's motion for preliminary injunction and included individual declarations from all of the defendants supporting their position that Tate's motion should be denied. As one would expect, these documents — copies of which have been obtained by BLABBERMOUTH.NET — contain startling details about the circumstances that led to the split between the singer and his one-time friends and longtime bandmates.

Several excerpts from Scott Rockenfield's declaration follow below.

"After [2005], Geoff and [his wife] Susan Tate began controlling the band's direction and Geoff Tate insisted on pushing only the music he was interested in pursuing. This meant that all of the material that Michael Wilton, Eddie Jackson and I were submitting was not getting finished. As such, Geoff Tate was basically writing with his friends, many of which were not even professional musicians.

"I have hard drives of song material written by Eddie Jackson, Michael Wilton and I that have dates and times on the files showing that in 2010 we had written dozens of hard rock songs that Geoff Tate even began singing on, but eventually was not interested in completing. He changed direction on us in late 2010 and only wanted to pursue a more pop-sounding CD, which meant he was only interested in a majority of songs being written by his friends, some of whom were homeless and living at his house.

"I have been the main composer, producer, engineer and technician for all the live backing tracks, computers, film screens and technology that is used during all QUEENSRŸCHE shows from the very beginning. This is a massive, labor intensive undertaking for each tour and has become a huge part of all the live shows for QUEENSRŸCHE through the years.

"Our stage manager and monitor tech Kelly Gray's claim that he and Geoff Tate do all the work is completely false. 'Q2K' (2000) was when we added Kelly to the band to play guitar. He was also hired as a producer/mixer for the CD. Producing and mixing a CD has many added requirements and Kelly Gray handled them well. However, his claims that he and Geoff Tate wrote the entire CD is completely and utterly false. Kelly Gray and I spent many weeks at my home studio writing a large amount of songs, and Michael Wilton and Eddie Jackson did the same. Because of everyone's complete involvement, it was easily decided that we should just split all credits equally amongst the five members.

"Geoff Tate's ongoing assault and anger issues have become a serious detriment to the brand of QUEENSRŸCHE. In 2000, we had a band meeting regarding our next CD and at that meeting, he did not like some topics of discussion and stormed out of the meeting after throwing a chair across the room.

"In 2007, Geoff Tate was angered by something and approached me in the band's dressing room and proceeded to smash my laptop on the table and then hit me in the face while spitting on me and pushing me around the room for approximately 15 minutes.

"In mid-2011, the band held a meeting in the dressing room to discuss playing some of our older material such as 'Queen Of The Reich'. Geoff Tate got very upset and eventually screamed, 'I am NOT ever going to play those stupid songs!' He then stormed out of the room. We have not been allowed to perform those songs since.

"In late 2011, the band held another meeting in regards to performing 'Operation: Mindcrime' in its entirety for ShipRocked, a rock and roll-themed cruise scheduled for November 2011. The band was asking simple questions as to why we were being offered this and that. We wanted some more information about the offer. Geoff Tate got very upset and screamed at us, something to the effect of 'what's the problem and why can't you just do this?' and then stormed out of the dressing room.

"On April 14, 2012, in Sao Paulo, Brazil, Geoff Tate violently attacked and assaulted Michael Wilton, Eddie Jackson and me on stage just prior to show time. Geoff Tate's claim that I said to him, 'I've fired your family and now I'm going to fire you' is a complete lie and many witnesses support this. All of this ongoing assault and violence from Geoff Tate has repeatedly been very bad for the band's continued business as it has made it very difficult for the band to continue making music and play shows up to the standards that are expected by us and our worldwide fan base.

"In the last couple months at the final QUEENSRŸCHE shows that were planned with Geoff Tate, he has made repeated comments on stage to our fans about how 'they suck' and about how 'this could be the end,' etc., etc. He has made multiple comments to the band members about making sure 'we stay away from him on stage or he will attack us again.' He has also made ongoing statements after the Brazil incident about how he 'wants us to stay away from him or else.' His actions resulting from this are very damaging to the band's brand name and has our fans very upset about his remarks, comments and personality.

"I received an email contact from Mike Kadrie at Zoetifex Studios back on December 7, 2010. His company was very interested in making QUEENSRŸCHE's iconic concept album 'Operation: Mindcrime' into an animated feature film. He and I exchanged a few emails regarding this, and being that they were excited about proceeding, I ended up passing along his contact info to Susan Tate. Susan and Geoff Tate had many exchanges with them during the course of 2011. During that time, the company was trying to raise enough investment funds to secure the rights option for a two-year deal to then pursue the BIG monies from investors to make the entire full-length feature, which was to include some A-list talents and voices. However, they were not able to raise such funds during 2011. During the process in 2011, Mike Kadrie continued to correspond with me and Susan and Geoff Tate. However, during this process, Susan and Geoff Tate had told Mike to NOT continue conversations with me or the other band members which Mike Kadrie was able to convey to me in his emails.

"Early in 2012, I received an email from Mike Kadrie stating that they had secured the rights option to the film which was authorized and done only through Geoff Tate, and that Geoff Tate had signed the agreement for the rights to them without any knowledge given to the other band members. The deal also contained an advance of monies to secure this options right, which were sent to the band's accountant/attorney, Neil Sussman, to be held in escrow. After receiving this information from Mike Kadrie and Zoetifex Studios about securing the rights option, I informed Michael Wilton and Eddie Jackson and asked if they knew anything about this deal. Michael Wilton and Eddie Jackson had never been told about any film deals, and they were very upset about Geoff Tate presuming that he alone had the right to sign over any deals regarding any QUEENSRŸCHE intellectual properties. The band members then contacted our attorney Neil Sussman who proceeded to tell them that, YES, Geoff Tate did sign over a deal for the options rights to 'Operation: Mindcrime', the movie. When the band members asked Neil Sussman how he could allow such a deal to be done without their collective input, he responded by saying something to the effect that 'Geoff told me he owned the rights, and so I just believed him and told him to sign the deal.' This made Michael Wilton, Eddie Jackson and I FURIOUS.

"On March 7, 2012, Michael Wilton, Eddie Jackson and I immediately signed and sent a certified document to Neil Sussman and Geoff Tate stating that this contract and deal was not authorized and that we request that all contracts relating to this deal be 'suspended' and that Neil Sussman was 'NOT ALLOWED TO DISPERSE ANY MONIES BEING HELD IN ESCROW.'

"On March 8, 2012, Neil Sussman confirmed that he had received this certified mailing and that since there was a conflict of interest regarding this movie deal, that he would not continue to work on any such related matters, and that he would not disperse any monies being held in escrow.

"On April 14, 2012, in Brazil, the band held a meeting in our dressing room at Geoff Tate's request. During this meeting we asked Geoff Tate about this 'Operation: Mindcrime' movie deal. He responded by saying that he knew nothing about any 'Operation: Mindcrime' movie deal. When asked further questions, Geoff Tate responded by saying that, 'Yes, I signed a deal for the story rights and that was a deal for me.' The band members absolutely disagree with him and that anything related to QUEENSRŸCHE music, recordings, CDs, DVDs, videos, story lines, logos, and trademarks are absolutely considered intellectual properties owned by QUEENSRŸCHE, and that NO ONE band member has any rights to sign contracts or accept offers on behalf of QUEENSRŸCHE properties.

"On Saturday, April 14, 2012, at approximately 11:05 p.m., we (the band) had just arrived on the stage behind the curtain approximately 10 minutes before our show was to commence in Sao Paulo, Brazil, with 2000+ concertgoers in attendance. I was getting up onto my drum riser when fellow band member Geoff Tate walked in front of my drums and spit into my face while proceeding to yell obscenities at me. Geoff Tate then pushed my drums down onto the drum riser causing the first delays for the show. Geoff Tate then walked around the stage left behind Michael Wilton's guitar speakers and confronted Michael Wilton face to face. He proceeded to yell obscenities at him before striking him with his fist on the right upper side of Michael Wilton's face. I came off my drum riser to Michael Wilton's aid and told Geoff Tate to back off. Geoff Tate continued to yell obscenities and spit at both Michael Wilton and me, and then at that time proceeded to strike me in the face twice. I backed away and asked for security to assist the situation. Geoff Tate continued yelling obscenities and spitting at the band members while chasing us around the stage. The local stage security and our own crew came to assist in trying to subdue Geoff Tate. Geoff Tate continued to resist and kept chasing the band members around the stage, all the while screaming obscenities, spitting at them and threatening them. Our tour manager, Orlando Scott 'Fozzy' O'Hare, came to subdue Geoff Tate and move him to his position on the stage left. After a few minutes of Orlando Scott 'Fozzy' O'Hare trying to calm Geoff Tate down, Geoff Tate then came back across the stage at the band members. He continued to spit and yell obscenities and was trying to get close to them to continue his assault. Local security created a barrier between me, Eddie Jackson and Michael Wilton to keep Geoff Tate from approaching. This behavior continued for about 20 to 25 minutes while we were forced to delay the show. Michael Wilton was handed an ice pack to hold to his face to try and keep any swelling to a minimum. After the situation was under control, the other band members and the band's crew had to fix the damage caused to their equipment during this assault before the show could proceed as scheduled.

"Just minutes prior to the show commencing, Orlando Scott 'Fozzy' O'Hare was told by Geoff Tate that he was going to attack Eddie Jackson next and that he was going to 'mess' with me all during the show. The entire incident lasted about 25 minutes. During the show, Geoff Tate continued to spit on the band members and their equipment, which was clearly seen by the fans in attendance and caused a very uncomfortable situation for the band to perform at the level the fans expected and paid for.

"During the show, Orlando Scott 'Fozzy' O'Hare advised us to exit the stage and go directly into our transportation to get away from Geoff Tate and his possible continued assault. There was concern that Geoff Tate would try and assault us on stage during our final bows to the crowd. We arrived at our hotel safely soon thereafter and were told to stay in our rooms until later the next day to avoid any further confrontations. Local authorities in discussion with our stage manager, Orlando Scott 'Fozzy' O'Hare, agreed to have Geoff Tate booked on another plane flight different from our original flights to also further avoid confrontations. Geoff Tate's new flight cost over $2,500. Later in the night when Geoff Tate departed the venue with Orlando Scott 'Fozzy' O'Hare to go back to the hotel, Geoff Tate proceeded to tell Orlando Scott 'Fozzy' O'Hare to tell me to 'keep the f**k away from him.'

"Geoff Tate's continued lack of interest in original QUEENSRŸCHE music or playing the older QUEENSRŸCHE music is resulting in damage to the brand of QUEENSRŸCHE. His recent and ongoing threats and assaults continued to place a great amount of stress on the remaining band members and their crew. Geoff Tate was no longer allowed to travel with the band, stay in the same hotels, participate in any band interviews, and had to be escorted at the venues with security. This was a very damaging form of business and had left the band with no choice but to move on without him."

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posted by : Dr. Unk
7/10/2012 6:37:47 PM
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Hey BM, spell check is your friend.


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COMMENT | Well
posted by : PowerBrake
7/10/2012 6:37:52 PM
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That explains everything....

They are all acting like children. Surprise


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posted by : razorx
7/11/2012 8:17:31 AM
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Who? Have you read any of this? One guy in the band perhaps. But to put them all in together makes you an idiot. I remember seeing Q when they opened for Metallica at Cobo Arena on the AJFA tour. Q got booed (remember Metallica were just starting to explode & they did so in Michigan a bit earlier than elsewhere) and guess what? Geoff Tate started spitting on people in the first couple of rows. I don't know how the rest of the guys put up with him that long. He obviously has had anger issues for a long time. And as for him not wanting to sing stuff like "Queen of the Reich" any more it is pretty simple. He can't FUCKING sing. His voice is long gone. He outta stick to his shitty wine & let the rest of the guys who actually care about the band make a living.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Well'''
posted by : nowitzdark
7/11/2012 10:10:48 AM
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Cheers to my fellow Detroiter.


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posted by : Double Shit-Talkin Jive
7/10/2012 6:42:35 PM
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"Bring me some wine or I'll kill you" Geoff Tate talkin to a drumset


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posted by : Rockmadman2007
7/10/2012 6:44:14 PM
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From what I've read, Geoff sounds like a spoiled little girl. lol


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posted by : nowitzdark
7/11/2012 10:11:09 AM
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King Baby


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posted by : Dr. Unk
7/10/2012 6:47:57 PM
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No one in the band could kick that twinks ass?


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COMMENT | just wow
posted by : Evilsquid
7/10/2012 6:49:23 PM
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I dunno if I totally believe this, but if this is really what happens (you know 2 sides to every story) then Tate needs some serious psychiatric help...


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COMMENT | 'There are......'
posted by : rac1965
7/10/2012 7:39:18 PM
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HREE sides to every story. One sides version, the other sides version and then the truth. If it did happen the way it is written above, then it seems to me that Tate needed a good beating. A nice blanket party would have done the trick.


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posted by : loser
7/10/2012 6:51:13 PM
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... no snowy = no dimmu ...


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COMMENT | Now.....
posted by : Wronginfo
7/10/2012 6:55:34 PM
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.... I want someone to track down Chris DeGarmo and get this take on all this.

Oh, and the band should have dumped Tate when he had that dumbass burlesque show idea!


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posted by : nowitzdark
7/11/2012 10:12:25 AM
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That's when I knew things were REALLY bad. Burlesque? W...T...F????!!!!

I'd like to hear his ex wife's take on this.


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posted by : KINGOTGBZ
7/10/2012 6:59:10 PM
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clearly Tate has lost it...


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COMMENT | OMFG!!!!
posted by : RattleHeadVikk
7/10/2012 7:00:16 PM
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Why didn't SOMEONE from that band or crew beat the shit out of that ego maniac,fruity ass fucker???? Degarmo got out of that stupid mess at just the right time! Good job Chris.


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posted by : Hipster Trash
7/10/2012 7:06:21 PM
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Is there footage anywhere of Geoff Tate having a temper tantrum? Because I'd imagine that being funny to watch.


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posted by : scruffman
7/10/2012 7:08:51 PM
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you know I would almost believe this...BUT.... scott is also a DICK!!! I know people that have met him as well as myself.
me I kust wanted to speak and a simple thanks for the music, but he had nothing to do with me!
a buddy asked for an autograph, a autograph... scott asked are you a fan club member? hr said no.. and scott walked off!!
this was around Q2K.. and they were playing small venues..
with attitudes like that no wonder the implosion!!


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posted by : theblindingape
7/10/2012 7:10:55 PM
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Further proof Geoff Tate is a pile of excrement. If he really abused the guys that much they should have just dog-piled him and beat him to a bloody pulp and just all maintain he fell down some steps...


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posted by : Bladdermouth
7/10/2012 7:12:56 PM
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Looks like Tate has the L.S.D syndrome, big time!


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COMMENT | TEAM TATE!
posted by : monkeytime
7/10/2012 7:14:21 PM
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I'm on TEAM TATE!

QUEENSRYCHE IS GEOFF TATE.

Without Geoff Tate, this new band will do poorly! Who wants to see a hired gun singing the songs Tate wrote!

I fully support Geoff Tate, the other guys were lazy bums since DeGarmo left the band and if not for Tate there would be no Queensryche!



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COMMENT | 'RE: TEAM TATE!'
posted by : Angrysun316
7/10/2012 7:24:34 PM
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Is that you Geoff??


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: TEAM TATE!'''
posted by : wastingbeerz
7/10/2012 8:09:38 PM
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...Geoff Tate's new band name: "Monkeytime".


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posted by : wastingbeerz
7/10/2012 9:49:03 PM
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Then Geoff will pull the same crap with that band and they'll kick him out... then there will be "Monkeytime" and "Geoff Tate's Monkeytime".


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COMMENT | That Seems
posted by : RedZombie
7/10/2012 7:15:21 PM
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Pretty far out if they were lying about all this, so this seems believable to me. Sounds like Geoff is pretty much a huge loser.


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COMMENT | Damn...
posted by : DanielMusic
7/10/2012 7:19:33 PM
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That's a lot of spit!...


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COMMENT | Hmmm
posted by : Abyss_of_Blood
7/10/2012 7:22:26 PM
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Sounds to me like Geoff is the pretentious dick here and not Scott.

I have also met Scott a few times. The most notable was after a show at the Gorge in George, Washington. We were driving back to Seattle and stopped off at this gas station/quick mart to pick up some munchies and who is in line behind me? Scott Rockenfield. He was driving back to Seattle with his girl so he could spend the night in his own bed. Scott was way cool and even waited in his car so I could come over, introduce my wife(ex now, huge QR fan) to him and get some autographs. He was very gracious and very polite. A really cool experience to be sure.

I was giving Geoff the benefit if the doubt but I believe what Scott is saying is true. Geoff started to loose his mind around Promised Land. Listen to Someone Else from Promised Land; confused to be sure.


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posted by : AxGrinder
7/10/2012 7:25:02 PM
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I find Scott's account way more believable. He has details, dates, and witnesses, while Tate has vague BS. Scott's account also jibes with what we've read in interviews and seen on video. Tate clearly has been trying to deceive us with his act about everything being fine behind the scenes, so why would anyone believe him?


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COMMENT | strartling details
posted by : dejavu
7/10/2012 7:29:34 PM
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holi craap!! I can see geoff in a remake of 'the shining'!!

"here's geoffy!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_C4f7JKVfQ


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posted by : Angrysun316
7/10/2012 7:30:11 PM
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I think Scott is telling the truth. Geoff's first solo album is proof he was moving the band away from metal and forcing his influence. That fruity burlesque show was Tate's idea too.


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posted by : thedddemon
7/10/2012 7:31:47 PM
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This is what BM what invented for!


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COMMENT | Can We All Just Get Along
posted by : Eatfucksuck
7/10/2012 7:32:06 PM
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NO- Tate Must Let Go Because His Writting Sucks Balls. Plus The New Singer Blows Him To Pieces.


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posted by : moogy
7/10/2012 7:34:49 PM
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"Geoff Tate continued to resist and kept chasing the band members around the stage, all the while screaming obscenities, spitting at them and threatening them."

I imagine the Benny Hill theme playing while this happened.


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posted by : rac1965
7/10/2012 7:38:47 PM
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So did I!


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COMMENT | Well....
posted by : Resplendent Glancings
7/10/2012 7:36:39 PM
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I side with Geoff on the exploring different sonic landscapes issue, just not healthy to be sounding the same on every album.

However, if you have dilemmas with your bandmates, talk it out behind closed doors, like gentlemen. Not fist fight with one another in front of paying fans.


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COMMENT | Hahahaha
posted by : Bladdermouth
7/10/2012 7:39:44 PM
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" a barrier of security guards to protect the band from G.Tate" ?? What a bunch of pussies...They used to my fave band. Now they're just pathetic!


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COMMENT | ohhhh!
posted by : Jexxykill
7/10/2012 7:40:25 PM
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Oh...so this all starts with the old skool music? So Geoff, like many singers, can't hit the notes anymore...and has possibly been hiding that... and won't admit that and maybe a hate for DeGarmo...

That would explain why we've not heard those first originals @ shows anymore... and PLEASE no more Silent Lucidity...

Don't know about youse guys...but that's what I read....


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COMMENT | more spit in that story
posted by : Owen Stripes
7/10/2012 7:52:17 PM
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than most gonzo porn. If this is an accurate description of events, it sounds like there were plenty of folks on site who can verify that behavior.

As stated before several times, these guys need to let the legal team divide up whatever Queensryche stuff is pending and just move on under the Rising West title.


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COMMENT | 'RE: more spit in that story'
posted by : Evil_Twin
7/11/2012 2:33:49 AM
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You obviously have no concept of the value of a Brand Name.


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COMMENT | Huh?
posted by : ICON666
7/10/2012 8:01:38 PM
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Makes Axl seem like a dream come true.


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COMMENT | Sounds like Geoff's been drinking to much
posted by : Hawkwinder
7/10/2012 8:11:13 PM
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What's the name of that brand he endorses? Insane? Insanity? Bloody drunken rage?

Anyway it's too bad it got to this point, but better late than never to go your separate ways. It'll be interesting to see who will sell more CDs tickets etc now that we have 2 different entities. I wish Rockenfield, Wilton etc. all the best. To me Tate is in the same league as Justin Bieber - plain annoying.


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COMMENT | Queensryche
posted by : RiotAct666
7/10/2012 8:12:07 PM
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They needed a fresh change and got a new singer. Think it was the right call on their part, since Tate seems to only care about wine and all.


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COMMENT | Whoa ...
posted by : Voivodling
7/10/2012 8:23:21 PM
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That shit is harsh ...

VOIVOD!


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posted by : Elric73
7/10/2012 8:32:54 PM
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I admire these guys for moving on without Geoff. I've heard rumors over the years that Geoff had more than a "musical infatuation" with Chris that led to his departure. Rather than just blaming downloaders for dwindling music sales, they've finally seen the writing on the wall that was there maybe 12 years ago. Look, I don't care what the band is, anytime you get your wife involved with a band's business arrangement, let the back door deals and fucking over of fellow band members begin. I've seen it at my previous job. As the money pool shrinks, then whoever is the most controlling asshole makes deals behind their brothers' backs. None of the ex-GNR guys have many rights. I wonder why. Anyway, I am inclined to agree w/Scott on this one. I don't care if Geoff is the voice of Queensryche. He's been selling the band down the river for years and I can hardly believe it's taken these guys this long to grow a set of balls. Geoff should have voluntarily stepped down years ago. He's hated metal for years and would probably rather play Depeche Mode or The Cure stuff anyway. I met him once at the Mecca backstage in Milwaukee. I am in a wheelchair and I had to go thru the backstage area to get to where the handicap seats were. I see the band talking to other fans, and realizing I am not going to get another opportunity like this, I quickly ditched the security guard and rolled over towards them. I waited patiently and when I had the chance I asked Geoff what was the inspiration for the song Best I Can off of Empire, and you'd have thought I'd interrupted his dinner or something. In a very condescending tone he said, "I don't know. Why don't you ask the guy who wrote it?" and not knowing who that was since he didn't have time to enlighten me further, I just went over to Degarmo who was kind enough to spend almost 30 minutes talking to me before management told him he had to get ready. Chris asked if I wanted him to sign anything, and I said no, I just wanted a minute or 2 of his time and he was completely gracious, like the way you'd expect Dio to be. Btw, Happy Birthday Ronnie, I miss you. Anyway, sorry for digressing. I am so glad someone from those 3 spoke up finally. I bet Geoff and the wife have been running things for years and it's time it came to an end. Geoff, your voice may be great, but you have a lot to work on upstairs. Try not to screw your band mates out of more money than you already have.


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posted by : dblbass
7/11/2012 3:36:10 PM
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Right on brother. I'm glad DeGarmo gave you a few minutes. At least HE had some class. I've always thought Tate was a dick.


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COMMENT | hmm
posted by : mrbungle1
7/10/2012 8:52:08 PM
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sound more like Geoff Teat to me. I always knew there was something very 'off' about this guy (besides his voice, i mean).


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COMMENT | #
posted by : jcinmf
7/10/2012 8:58:10 PM
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All I can say is this: Chris Degarmo knew when to hang it up and go fly planes for a living.........


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COMMENT | #
posted by : emetal
7/10/2012 9:05:05 PM
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I got to meet Geoff after a show on the American Soldier tour. I told him that the best concert I ever saw was Queensryche on the Empire tour when they played the entire Operation: Mindcrime album. He looked at me and said, what, when you were 12? I was 24 when I saw that show. He seemed almost annoyd that I was talking about Mindcrime. He ruluctantly signed the Mindcrime cd insert that I brought with me. A few minutes after that I was standing with a few other guys that were talking to Michael Wilton. I asked him a question about the ep and he was more than happy to talk to everyone. I walked away from that meet and greet thinkin Michael was pretty damn cool and Geoff was kind of a douche bag.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : emetal
7/10/2012 9:06:03 PM
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^ oops, reluctantly


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COMMENT | #
posted by : jcinmf
7/10/2012 9:10:32 PM
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Queensryche to me was: Seeing them live when they opened for Metallica doing songs off of "Rage for Order" and then seeing them on the original Operation Mindcrime tour where the Butthole Surfers opened for them.

That's the image I will always remember and simply forget about the rest of the crap........

Back then, they had the fire..........


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COMMENT | You mean...
posted by : Iluvashleyblue
7/10/2012 9:28:16 PM
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...the other four guys couldn't get together and just beat the shit out of him? I mean, I could understand if one or two didn't feel like fighting back but all of them? It's all constant running away from Geoff. I'm sorry but the other guys are coming off like battered bandmates. Someone, somewhere has to have video of Geoff going off them. The real question is: where does Chris DeGarmo stand on all of this? Imagine if Chris came back and rejoined with Geoff? Oh snap!


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COMMENT | #
posted by : bringbackacidbath
7/10/2012 10:11:54 PM
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So I guess we can now squarely put the blame on Taint for the cabaret tour.

What a fucking douchebag.

Now let's get back to some Rage For Order type material with the new guy. Oh yeah, and bring back DeGarmo


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COMMENT | #
posted by : UptheIrons666
7/10/2012 10:29:31 PM
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Its gonna be hard to listen to rage for order without thinking about Geoff spitting and throwing blows on stage. WTF.


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COMMENT | I'll tell you what
posted by : Riotass666
7/10/2012 11:09:33 PM
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I totally believe the Taint family rejected all of Rockenfield, Wilton, and Jackson's songs for the past few years, and Geoff Taint is a fucking lying sack of shit to claim that they didn't submit any songs. For those few Taint supporters left who aren't on the Taint family payroll, the proof will come when Queensryche with Todd and/or Rising West records their first album. Compare it to the next Taint solo album and you will have your proof for that part of this sad story.

Fuck Geoff Taint, all the way to the loony bin.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Rooivalk
7/11/2012 1:34:22 AM
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All this makes even more sense as to why there was a security guard seated next to the drum riser during the Rocklohoma show.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : abigllama
7/11/2012 2:07:52 AM
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Among other things one of the more shocking is that Taint was a physical threat to the rest of the band. He's like 5 feet tall and looks like a dildo with ears.

I've had some friends that played in the Seattle metal scene back in the 80s and 90s and have heard for years about Taint being a total douche. None of this is surprising and hope and expect the band to come out on top with this crap.



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COMMENT | Fighting
posted by : DirtbagMessiah
7/11/2012 2:16:06 AM
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A lot of questions about why didn't the rest of the band beat the shit out of Tate? Probably because 1) Tate would have immediately pressed charges and sued them in as many ways as he could have, and 2) Tate would have dissolved the Queensryche "business" and they would have nothing. As much as I would have wanted to beat his ass for doing all that shit, having patience and allowing him go off like he did only helps the rest of band in their legal battles with Tate. They essentially took one for the team...


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COMMENT | 'RE: Fighting'
posted by : Evil_Twin
7/11/2012 3:09:13 AM
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EXACTLY!

It's amazing how many idiots think a good ass beating would be more satisfying than a lifetime of financial security. It's kind of pathetic how many people base their entire lives around the threat of physical violence. Good luck with that dumbfucks!


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COMMENT | #
posted by : DTC
7/11/2012 3:42:57 AM
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Get Tallica's group therapist. SOKM is proof that guy can deal with any kind of rock star ego. Lol


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COMMENT | What a mess
posted by : drx666
7/11/2012 3:46:57 AM
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Geoff Tate is a great singer, no doubt. And from what people have said or from what I have read, he doesn't seem like a very nice person at all. There's two sides two every story. I hope things get worked out for all parties involved but IMO, Queensryche should have disbanded after Hear In The Now Frontier. It's pretty obvious Geoff was controlling the band at that point. Once such a great band but, will never be forgotten.


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COMMENT | ###
posted by : tyranakok
7/11/2012 4:55:36 AM
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As an original Ryche Campaign guy, purchaser of all studio albums except the last 2, and having seen them 11 times...
Yay!!!


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COMMENT | Tate
posted by : TJ_1979
7/11/2012 4:58:28 AM
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"You mean...the other four guys couldn't get together and just beat the shit out of him?"

Of course they could, but normal, friendly, reasonable people don't do things like that. No matter how much they hate the other guy. That's why Tate is dangerous, he's obviously a psychopath with anger issues.

The rest of the guys should be commended for their professional approach, both before and after the split. No feelings involved, just facts. And I think there are enough eye witnesses, including fans, to prove that everything Scott says is true.

I suspect the split-up doesn't do much good to his mental health either. Tate should seek help and retire from the business. He need to sort things out on his own for a long, long time. He can't do this anymore.


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posted by : vanbasten6247
7/11/2012 4:58:59 AM
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Well, now we know what Tate could do to be an entertainer besides singing (not as good as he used to): perform as a professional spitter, looks like he's good at it.


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COMMENT | April 14th
posted by : TJ_1979
7/11/2012 5:14:15 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frXEnjYruHk

The intro of the show mentioned above, where Tate went bananas.


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COMMENT | Geoff
posted by : nowitzdark
7/11/2012 10:10:22 AM
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I can't help but wonder if he's on drugs or something (no...not a drug called "Geoff Tate").


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COMMENT | Its almost
posted by : norwegian1882
7/12/2012 12:04:50 AM
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like all this is scripted: Insania (insania??!!), Dedicated to chaos (look inside!), Big Noize (gonna make big noizee!!).

I'm not buying this whole "GT is evil" narrative. I can smell the bs from far away. This must be some kind of "stunt." DTC is on roadrunner, blabbermouth (also roadrunner) runs long loong stories ... almost like a book. I know something about GT: He is extremely intelligent, and he would never get himself into something like this (unless ...?).

Damm that Tate and QR!


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COMMENT | I wonder. . .
posted by : GB
7/13/2012 9:58:50 AM
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. . . what DeGarmo thinks about all this stuff. . .


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