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CRO-MAGS Beef Turns Violent At CBGB FESTIVAL - July 7, 2012
According to the Daily News, the CBGB Festival at Webster Hall in New York City was canceled Friday night after a former member of the legendary hardcore band CRO-MAGS assaulted two people, including at least one current member of the group.

William Berario, 45, was slashed above the eye and bitten on his cheek, and Michael Couls, 33, was cut on his arm and stomach during the incident, which happened around 8:30 p.m. The attacker, who has been identified by the New York Post and the Daily News as Harley Flanagan, the 44-year-old founding member of the CRO-MAGS, was seen in photographs posted on BoweryBoogie.com being wheeled from the venue by EMTs. He was reportedly taken to Bellevue Hospital to be treated for a broken leg and was charged with second-degree assault and criminal possession of a weapon.

The concert, which was scheduled to include appearances by SICK OF IT ALL, CRO-MAGS and VISION OF DISORDER — was part of the CBGB Festival, which is featuring musical performances by over 300 artists at venues throughout Manhattan and Brooklyn through Sunday.

"You can all thank Harley Flanagan for ruining the night for everyone," CRO-MAGS lead singer John Joseph told the crowd (see video below).

The organizers of the CBGB Festival later released a statement, saying, "We are saddened to learn about the events that occurred last night at Webster Hall.

"Our primary concern is always the safety and experience of New Yorkers, music fans and the general public. Naturally, we will fully cooperate with law enforcement while hoping for the speedy recovery of those injured.

"Live music can be incredibly uplifting, empowering and positive. We don't feel the actions of one person should overshadow four amazing days and nights of events that include today's historic and unprecedented free concerts in Times Square and Central Park."

In a 2010 interview, Harley stated about Joseph, "The guy has been pretty much a bullshit artist since the old days . . If John EVER actually has the balls to back up all the shit he talks, to step up, I'll beat his ass. Again... That is if he EVER has the balls to actually step up to the hundreds of times I've called him out, e-mailed him, called him, etc. . . Me and him both know the truth and we both know he's a fraud. A really fake motherfucker and all that 'spiritual' shit is just another smokescreen."







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COMMENT | Wow
posted by : Evil_Twin
7/7/2012 3:04:12 AM
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That's fucking AWESOME!!!!!!


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COMMENT | What a shame....
posted by : Overkillin'You
7/7/2012 3:05:14 AM
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as more details come out about this it seems like Harley was going through a rough time. No excuse though, what he did was a bitch move. They've charged him with 2 counts of 2nd Degree Assault along with some sort of weapons charges.


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COMMENT | Oh Yeah...Where are having a Harley Flanagan Vigil.....
posted by : Overkillin'You
7/7/2012 3:07:29 AM
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online later where we will sit in front on the computer and surf the net in protest of his unjust incarceration. FREE HARLEY FLANAGAN!!!


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COMMENT | 'RE: Oh Yeah...Where are having a Harley Flanagan Vigil.....'
posted by : Deathspawner
7/7/2012 4:29:35 AM
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Holy fuck you're hilarious!


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COMMENT | 'RE: Oh Yeah...Where are having a Harley Flanagan Vigil.....'
posted by : Ryan Maiden
7/7/2012 4:45:02 AM
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Yeah, because malicious premeditated weaponry violence is on par with allegations (that being the key word) of unintended manslaughter. I'm really not sure if you're purposely falsely equating the two, or if you're just a complete moron and really too stupid to see a distinction between the two. Either way, you're fuckface.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Oh Yeah...Where are having a Harley Flanagan Vigil.....'''
posted by : Overkillin'You
7/7/2012 6:13:20 AM
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I was pretty much bored at work and figured I troll fanboys like you. It worked. Thank you, come again.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: Oh Yeah...Where are having a Harley Flanagan Vigil.....'''''''
posted by : Ryan Maiden
7/7/2012 7:02:47 AM
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Well played then. But, given the amount of idiocy on this website, I suppose that it isn't too hard to imagine why I may have interpreted you sincerely. My apologies for calling you a fuckface.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: ''''''''RE: Oh Yeah...Where are having a Harley Flanagan Vigil.....''''''''''''''
posted by : Overkillin'You
7/7/2012 8:43:12 AM
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It's cool man. I understand.


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posted by : The Judge
7/7/2012 3:27:53 AM
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Did the clown from Slipknot edit that video? That was fucking rubbish.

Shame about this Harley was the man back in the day, the people he stabbed deserve more sympathy though, what did they do to deserve that?!

Yeah online vigil, Randy Blythe can rot for all I care.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Overkillin'You
7/7/2012 3:42:35 AM
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Agreed....They haven't released the names of the victims yet besides Mike "The Gook". I wish all the victims speedy recovery. Harley apparently suffered a compound fracture of his leg. The security from all accounts beat the dog shit out of him. Here's a better link to the story though..

http://www.boweryboogie.com/2012/07/more-photos-from-cro-mags-stabbing-at-webster-hall/


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COMMENT | Hardcore...
posted by : SnarfSnarf
7/7/2012 4:10:15 AM
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fucked up shit, or fucked up hardcore shit


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posted by : cma3585
7/7/2012 4:24:26 AM
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So you're telling me a stabbing occurred at a hardcore show at CBGB's??? Color me shocked.


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posted by : Deathspawner
7/7/2012 4:31:08 AM
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What a douche move... hope the dude gets sent straight to prison. As a side note, I love the history of CBGBs, but all of those bands fucking suck.


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posted by : linchpin313
7/7/2012 4:53:17 AM
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Now that's hardcore o_o


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COMMENT | THOSE GIRLS WERE HOT
posted by : Resplendent Glancings
7/7/2012 4:53:24 AM
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Those New York girls were all pissed about the cancelled show, and want their frustrations to be taken out by a pounding on their banana boxes. They were begging for it, for a good dicking in their funhouse.

Besides that, Harley is a tough sonofawhore. Wouldn't fuck with that dude. He would have beaten that concert kid dude to death over in the Czech Republic, instead of "guiding" him offstage. Randy's a wimp, GO HARLEY, and GO HOT BITCHES FROM THE SHOW!!!


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COMMENT | Don't worry...
posted by : BiorythmicDrift
7/7/2012 5:00:57 AM
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Harley will release his next album called criminal record featuring his greatest hits, get it now while the price is slashed...


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COMMENT | Band of one album
posted by : comipaocomovo
7/7/2012 5:21:22 AM
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Cro mags has just one great album, the rest is shit.

They are like Exodus, just one album, too.

About Flanagan ,I hope he keep in jail for a long time. Hard times for you Flanagan bastard!


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COMMENT | 'RE: Band of one album'
posted by : Lumps
7/7/2012 6:08:05 AM
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No on the eXodus claim. First three albums and Temp of the Damned = Four badasss albums.

Bastard.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Band of one album'
posted by : thrashley
7/7/2012 9:07:51 AM
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Whatever you're you smoking, stop it. Exodus Rules!


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posted by : Mike Thrash
7/7/2012 5:27:32 AM
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If Harley had beef, then he should've taken it up with them at some other time, not the night of the show. Nice way to screw everyone. I never liked the Cro-Mags anyway: I was always more partial to Urban Waste and Reagan Youth, but that's beyond the point. This was just a stupid move and ruined the night for everyone.

On a side note - where were all the hardcore kids/adults? All I saw were a bunch of hipsters that just wanted to be able to tell their friends that they were there to worship at the altar of CBGB's...and what's even more funny is that no one interviewed that saw Harley get wheeled off seemed to recognize him. Nice editing. Classic!


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posted by : Lumps
7/7/2012 6:11:23 AM
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lol at those dumb bitches at the end. If I got stabbed and there was a video about it, and those dumbasses were there, who clearly don't care, I'd be pissed. At least get yer tits out and be somewhat entertaining.


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COMMENT | The person I feel sorry for...
posted by : DavidStHubbins
7/7/2012 6:29:47 AM
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Is the poor b@stard marrying the obnoxious cow at the end of that video. He's gonna have to wake up every morning next to that."Remember when that guy got staaaabed?!"


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posted by : BabyKiller
7/7/2012 6:41:41 AM
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Harley Flanagan is nothing but a violent, racist thug and actions like that it's exactly why John Joseph can't stand the man since the 80's.


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posted by : handofsutekh
7/7/2012 6:50:35 AM
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bunch of wankers in that video! especially the girl at 1:06... so glad I wasn't there, I probably would have stabbed myself up out of sheer despair


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COMMENT | Stop bullying?? hahaha
posted by : metalisdumb
7/7/2012 6:57:05 AM
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Dumb bitches at the end made my morning.


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posted by : DTC
7/7/2012 7:03:07 AM
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Call Varg Vikernes to finish the job next time


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COMMENT | Exodus only one good album?
posted by : AnonymousJerk
7/7/2012 7:31:47 AM
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Blasphemy! Which one would that be, Force of habit? Sarcasm implied.


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COMMENT | The headline should have read...
posted by : Green Machinist
7/7/2012 7:41:15 AM
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...psuedo-Aryan/skinhead douchebags forced to find some other place to pretend anyone gives a fuck about them.


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posted by : raymon
7/7/2012 7:44:32 AM
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Those girls are too pretty to be at a Hardcore show. A bit odd.


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COMMENT | The stress of....
posted by : Sintanic
7/7/2012 8:16:32 AM
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.....eating nothing but salads finally broke him.


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COMMENT | So what
posted by : Doug Glanville
7/7/2012 8:21:05 AM
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So Harley Flanagan stabbed somebody? Probably the most excitement that a "hardcore" show of today has ever seen. It used to happen a lot back in the day all over the map, when hardcore USED to be a dangerous thing. Nowadays hardcore, is just really terrible death metal and the fun factor of not knowing whether you're going to be beaten half to death by a Samoan bouncer for slam dancing, is completely non-existant.


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posted by : Feel_The_Darkness
7/7/2012 8:27:33 AM
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Bad Brains are better than any of these bands


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : BabyKiller
7/7/2012 8:44:19 AM
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Bad Brains are better than 98% of all the bands featured in this site.


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posted by : Nefty175
7/7/2012 8:30:51 AM
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This is some weak shit.

Harley is actually 44, not 42. The man's got a wife and kids, and yet he pulls this lame thug shit. WEAK.

I was just reading an interview with him from some MMA website, and then I come in here and this is the first article I see. I still dig Cro-Mags, and the Harley's War material I heard sounded pretty good....but HF himself really showed what a small person he is all these years later.


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posted by : artie pufkin
7/7/2012 8:43:59 AM
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NYHC LOL! But the blonde was cute!


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posted by : myself
7/7/2012 9:03:14 AM
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I wonder why Flanagan never took a swipe at John Joseph then? Gotten his hide kicked I wonder.

He will enjoy himself in jail. All the neo nazis will welcome him and he will love it.
He'll feel important again.


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COMMENT | News just in!!
posted by : deadpromotions
7/7/2012 9:17:06 AM
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Geoff Tate seen leaving the show just before Harley gets a beat down, plants knife in his hand!! Fact


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COMMENT | Not a rap show.
posted by : Steviestiches
7/7/2012 9:19:11 AM
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Or there would've been a riot.


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COMMENT | What if?
posted by : verymetal
7/7/2012 9:20:41 AM
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If this was had been a Faster Pussycat or Bullet Boys reunion show there just would have been hair pulling and face slapping.


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COMMENT | Stupid
posted by : poorglory
7/7/2012 9:39:30 AM
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Hardcore proves once again to be lowest-common-denominator music for simpleton retards. Like this is the first time a hardcore show was cancelled because of some pussy with a knife.


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COMMENT | Exodus only one great album.
posted by : comipaocomovo
7/7/2012 9:51:35 AM
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Exodus play only songs from Bonded by Blood, never from Temple of...


a band with 3 great albums is Sepultura: Beneath, Arise, Chaos AD.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Exodus only one great album.'
posted by : DTC
7/7/2012 1:21:15 PM
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Agreed. All the singers they had after Baloff always ruined the music with their cartoon vocals. Hail Paul Baloff!


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COMMENT | That Sucks
posted by : ALL THINGS METAL
7/7/2012 10:01:22 AM
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I'm playing "age of quarrel" right now


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posted by : RiotAct666
7/7/2012 10:25:29 AM
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Have fun rotting in jail Harley.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : JHill
7/7/2012 11:29:20 AM
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Damn, Riot's dad was right! Harley really did stab his son in the anus!


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posted by : Neural Imbalance
7/7/2012 10:29:58 AM
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I remember back in 1988 or so I went to a club in New Rochelle New York called Streets to see Destruction (Live w/o Sense mini-tour) who were opening for the Cro-Mags. From the minute I walked through the door there was a sense of uneasiness. I watched some long hairs get pummeled that evening. After Destruction it really started to get heated and we got out of there. I had never been to a show with that much tension in the air. You could actually feel it. Crazy shit.


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COMMENT | violence at hardcore shows is just so old hat
posted by : nycker
7/7/2012 10:56:40 AM
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Harley Flanagan needs to read John Joseph's book "Meat is for P#ssies"! Maybe a few more tweaks to his lifestyle, a liver cleanse...

This whole situation is just depressing esp. since the music scene is rough enough to get public participation. Webster Hall should have allowed more shows or they should have moved them.


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posted by : RiotAct666 Before the Lobotomy
7/7/2012 11:14:23 AM
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Sounds like it was the "Age of Quarrel" at that show! HAHAHA!!!



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COMMENT | stupid hipster bitches under 30...
posted by : StJames888
7/7/2012 11:26:42 AM
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...need to stay at the coffeebar, or stick to fighting on facebook or twitter... ... jeez those dumb bitches weren't even born when the cro-mags (or any real hard core bands) were playing CBGBs .. stop bullying?!! ... are these brain dead bitches for real?? Is this the best that the news could produce? sad...no pathetic.. as for Harley stabbing the others... why didn't he wait till after the show , then get them in the parking lot? lol just kidding - I think violence sucks but why ruin the show for everyone else .. unless webster hall was filled with those hipster types, then they deserved to have the show cancelled...


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posted by : Sadistikexekution
7/7/2012 12:03:55 PM
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What riotact got stabbed?


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posted by : nancyboy
7/7/2012 12:26:54 PM
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Pfft.. I'll be impressed when they start decapitating people.


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posted by : pigchop
7/7/2012 12:38:55 PM
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Harley Fucking Flanagan - the guy has always been a bit of a wingnut. Who knows what set him off - sucks that it happened.


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COMMENT | i heard
posted by : tidbits
7/7/2012 1:40:39 PM
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They have the wrong dude, it was actually Rick Ta Life


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COMMENT | its hardcore, what do you expect?
posted by : jim siedow
7/7/2012 1:47:26 PM
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With the excepetion of hatebreed and a couple other bands
its the worst genre in metal...
Live shows, entourages, promoting crowd attendees to f@ck each other
up...
Its a joke
no one goes to a show to get into a fight, if you do check yourself into
a psych ward asap


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COMMENT | 'RE: its hardcore, what do you expect?'
posted by : Doug Glanville
7/7/2012 4:48:57 PM
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Holy shit you definitley have to be a young young man to believe hardcore is a subgenre of metal. In my day it stemmed from punk rock, and still does.

The shit all these kids are listening to nowadays, like I said before ain't hardcore, but rather terrible death metal being passed off as something that bares no similarities to the original thing other than the fact that they're both fast. You know what else is fast? Polka, let's all go around referring to Polka as hardcore too, why not, we'll also start calling polka a sub genre of metal as well.


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COMMENT | not surprised
posted by : jmbeast
7/7/2012 1:52:41 PM
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Not at all surprised or shocked by this news. Not justifying what Harley did but I've been wondering for a while now how long that fake Cro Mags was going to last before something went down. There's just too much bitterness and hate built up for that to end quietly. Hope the victims have a speedy recovery.


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7/7/2012 2:53:45 PM
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Harley is a fucking wigger now.


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COMMENT | Wow
posted by : Scotts_Orange_Juice
7/7/2012 3:55:36 PM
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This goes beyond everything I have ever experienced being in bands!

This guy is a total wackjob.


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COMMENT | YOU KNOW TIMES ARE CHANGING.....
posted by : SLAYTANIC WAR RABBIT
7/7/2012 5:14:02 PM
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HAD THIS HAPPENED BACK IN THE DAY, THE CROWD WOULD OF RIOTED WHEN THEY TRIED TO SHUT IT DOWN.

ISN'T IT NIFTY KEEN HOW EVERYONE HAS GROWN UP?


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COMMENT | WOW, KIDS!!!
posted by : themetalden.com
7/7/2012 5:25:36 PM
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Harley just set heavy music back another hundred years!

Thanks, bro!!

FUCK, first Dimebag, then Blythe, now this...

Yayyyy!!!

What's next, Casey Chaos drive drunk into 15 parked cars?

Oh wait!! That did just happen!!

FTW,
ROCKET


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posted by : HoldOntoYerGuts
7/7/2012 7:01:37 PM
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WHAT A BEAST!


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COMMENT | Dag nab it.
posted by : HammerOfAstraea
7/7/2012 7:33:58 PM
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That 1st blond chick was hot! The next 2 brunettes were totally fuckable as well! But for all "The Age Of Quarrel" was about, I am extremely disappointed that Harley, as an icon of NYHC, would choose such a dishonourable way to administer violence. The best way would have been to call whoever out and settle it one on one, not attack all of them with a knife. While Burzum is THE greatest and best band of any musical genre ever, the idiocy of this is on par with Varg. I mean, instead of killing someone with whom he shared a mutual hatred, why didn't The Count like stab the jock who bullied him in school or get rid of some other asshole the world won't miss or something?


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COMMENT | 'RE: Dag nab it.'
posted by : Resplendent Glancings
7/7/2012 8:40:07 PM
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HELL YES DUDE!!!!

Those bitches, excuse me, um, Women, were totally bangable!! Especially the hot brunette on the right with the hoop earrings! Fucking nice!!

They all needed a deep dicking inside their banana boxes.


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COMMENT | cursed...
posted by : hornshighindetroit
7/8/2012 5:03:58 AM
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Michael Couls of the band Cold as Life... The most cursed band in hardcore, i swear. Trouble finds these guys no matter what.


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posted by : trickbunny
7/8/2012 10:50:48 AM
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Love it how some guys think they're "hardcore" when all they REALLY are is emotionally underdeveloped, stunted, uneducated, unemployable, bi-polar, sometimes-racist, sometimes-homophobic, and many times- untalented, pieces of shit.

"Yeah dude, I'm a total moron who acts like a 12 year old- but it's cool 'cause I'm HARDCORE."

No, you're just a moron, plain and simple. Next.


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COMMENT | How sad
posted by : fuckbush
7/8/2012 12:04:40 PM
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What a bunch of pathetic nonsense. There is no good reason for a grown man to act in such a violent and childish manner towards his former bandmates, especially in public in front of hundreds of fans!


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posted by : myself
7/8/2012 10:18:31 PM
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Harley had a malfunction what with hard times he is facing. We gotta know why he did it. We are all seekers of the truth. He has to face the facts that what you do unto others is not the sign of the times. We all want world peace even if it is survival of the streets. What he did - it's the limit. He will be in jail and tell himself, I am by myself and have a life of my own. Harley I would show you no mercy and tell you don't tread on me, but I want to live in an age of quarrel.


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COMMENT | myself
posted by : Jesus Chrysler
7/9/2012 7:54:11 AM
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dude, that's awesome. well played indeed!!!


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