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TOMMY LEE Loves His Fans, But Hates Having His Picture Taken - June 28, 2012
MÖTLEY CRÜE drummer Tommy Lee has posted the following open letter to his fans on the band's Facebook page:

"Dear fans,

"I fucking LOVE my fans! And you know this!!!... If you asked anyone that knows me really well, they would tell ya the same thing... 'Tommy loves his fans. He lives for this shit... he eats, breathes,shits music 24/7.' They'll also probably tell ya that 'he's a down-to-earth grateful life-lovin dude and a nice guy, too.'

"What I have a problem with is... taking pictures! I hate it! Irritates the fuck out of me when people say... 'You owe it to your fans, they put you where you are, etc. etc.!'

"I certainly don't owe anybody anything!

"When I bought all my LED ZEPPELIN records and concert tickets, I didn't say, 'One day these fuckers are gonna owe me a picture.' It's the least they can do for me!...

"[What the fuck], people? You don't admire something so that it can give back... You just cherish it! And to those who say, 'You should be grateful that people wanna take your picture. Maybe one day they won't want it!' That day can't come soon enough!

"[By the way]… I'm not here to take pictures with you, I'm here to entertain you!

"Nobody put me where I am but ME! They may have helped inspire me with their love for what I do... but I put myself right here where I want to be with a lot of hard work, practice, talent, luck, etc. What I do owe myself and others is being THE BEST I can be! And that's making great music, being a good man, father, lover and human being! We all owe that kinda stuff to ourselves and each other.

"People, do we really need a silly picture?... For what?! Bragging rights? Really?.. Who fucking cares! Someone's not gonna believe you if ya don't have the proof pic? Then fuck 'em! I'd never go up to someone that I admired and bug them for a picture!! Why! I might say a quick hello... maybe a handshake? I dunno... It depends on the 'situation'... Most people never consider the 'situation.' That's really important... Ya wouldn't wanna handshake standing at the pisser in the men's bathroom next to me, would ya? And yes, that's happened to me, too... Or when you're eating a nice, quiet meal with your family, some rude jackass comes up and asks for a picture!

"You can't even imagine what kinda crazy has happened to me. I understand the excitement and all, but just take a second and think... Is this cool right now? It's called consciousness; it's the quality or state of being aware of an external object or something within oneself. Be conscious.

"So like I said… yhe fastest way to get me to leave is whip out a camera! Maybe just say hello and I'll probably take ya home with me! Well, I'd have to ask my girlfriend first! Hah!

"Sincerely yours, The Picture Taker Hater! Tommy Lee"

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posted by : Michael Bolton
6/28/2012 3:41:31 PM
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'Tommy loves his fans. He lives for this shit... he eats, breathes,shits music 24/7.' They'll also probably tell ya that 'he's a down-to-earth grateful life-lovin dude and a nice guy, too.'

Not really, Tommy is a douchebag


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posted by : Dr. Unk
6/28/2012 3:42:33 PM
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Grade A, number 1 douchebag.


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COMMENT | Charles Barkley
posted by : kinetik
6/28/2012 3:44:44 PM
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He said the same thing, "I'm not a role model" but it was true, he was a role model. Fame has good and bad points and perhaps the bad is having to interact with the people who think you are worthy of their respect and attention. That you, Tommy, can't understand that is obvious, you've never been the sharpest knife in the drawer, but don't ever think you are above the adoration of your fans. You are on a pedestal because of your fans not despite them... never forget that.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Charles Barkley'
posted by : vanbasten6247
6/28/2012 3:47:45 PM
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Well said.


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COMMENT | Douchebag right there!!
posted by : FreedomOfSpeech
6/28/2012 3:46:51 PM
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Asshole too.


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posted by : Sadistikexekution
6/28/2012 3:49:19 PM
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I won't take his picture, the police will if he beats up another woman, this wife beater piece of shit.


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COMMENT | Nobody cares
posted by : bird_slop
6/28/2012 3:49:39 PM
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We've already seen it all Tomas.


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posted by : dj queef
6/28/2012 4:00:21 PM
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You just know Tommy looked up the definition of consciousness right before he posted this...


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COMMENT | Picture Hater lol
posted by : metal__richard
6/28/2012 4:06:46 PM
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Only person that has refused to take a pic when I asked was JJ French, yet a few moments before that he took a pic with a female fan lol oh well, I still dig the music.... won't be asking for a pic with him anymore!


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COMMENT | Fuck this guy!
posted by : forth horseman
6/28/2012 4:08:13 PM
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A good father? By whipping your wifes ass? The only reason you are where you are is because people bought your shit. If not for that, you would be drumming in someones basement. People, for whatever reason, still pay to see you and your hack singer play songs from 25 years ago and that pays to bail your dumb ass out of jail. Then you come out with this stupid ass Method of Meyhem bullshit and all your " hard work, practice, talent, luck, etc." Couldn't get that shit sold could it? Those same fans who didn't get you where you are didn't show up to hear that hog shit! Get off of your high horse you over the hill douche bag. You're like 50 years old now GROW UP!


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posted by : Persecutorxx
6/28/2012 4:09:56 PM
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i hate tommy lee, but i love getting a picture taken...


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posted by : Zambo
6/28/2012 4:14:29 PM
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I do understand his position. I don't think it should be that important to get a picture with these people. And they don't owe you a picture. Do you get a picture with your dentist after he performed some incredible dental work? Do you take a picture with the guy who fixed your car?

But then again, there's video of him cumming, so I guess I'm not so sure why HE of all people decides to post this.


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COMMENT | 'Dentist vs Tommy Lee'
posted by : kinetik
6/28/2012 4:23:47 PM
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Tommy Lee fucked Pamela Anderson on video, this is not a valid comparison.


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COMMENT | What a fucking loser
posted by : redrumloa
6/28/2012 4:25:27 PM
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Go spin some rap records you wanna be DJ douchebag poser!


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COMMENT | BULLSHIT
posted by : Dee67
6/28/2012 4:31:57 PM
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Posing is what keeps him alive.. The only person who likes having their picture taken more is Nikki


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COMMENT | so
posted by : dethryde
6/28/2012 4:38:17 PM
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Your fans are good enough to spend their cash on your music, merch, shows. I get it to an extent, but for that fan it's usually the pinnacle moment in their being a fan of the idol. Take for instance the kid that Rob Flynn brought on stage to play a song, how fkn cool was that? Until after Dime's death, a lot of bands stuck around to interact with fans. Then some guru got the idea to do the money grab meet & greet.


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posted by : defecate
6/28/2012 4:40:25 PM
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shut the hell up jerkoff! you suck!!


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COMMENT | "I hate having my picture taken!"
posted by : Asskicker82
6/28/2012 4:53:18 PM
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"Unless I'm using my penor to steer a boat"


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posted by : DMR
6/28/2012 5:01:51 PM
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He's right. The fans didn't "put" him or anybody else anywhere. The musicians created the music and the fans elected to buy or not buy. The musicians put in the work, not the fans.

Love him or hate him, he owes you nothing. And neither does any other musician from any other band you like.


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posted by : BillyM67
6/28/2012 5:02:40 PM
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No one put him where he is, he did it all....so I guess he purchased all of the records and tickets that made him rich...interesting!


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COMMENT | wow!
posted by : pupo
6/28/2012 5:09:29 PM
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what a fucking douche!!!!


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COMMENT | i don't blame him but....
posted by : kliffee
6/28/2012 5:10:52 PM
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he's being honest that you shouldn't ask him for a photo when he's eating or in the middle of something. but he obviously doesn't want his pic taken cuz he may not look good in the pic and it will end up online for the entire planet to see. i hate when friends take my pic and post it on facebook, no matter how bad i look in the pic. i could be making a weird face when they snap the pic yet they post it! i get it!


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posted by : pigchop
6/28/2012 5:18:25 PM
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If a fan walks up to you at a meet 'n greet, stick your attitude up your ass and pose for a picture ya' fucking tool.

You took plenty of pics of dumb little pieces of road ass over the years - it should not be a problem to have your pic taken with a fan.


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posted by : Double Shit-Talkin Jive
6/28/2012 5:19:56 PM
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Wow what an ego!

stick a fork in that jackass and deflate him back to reality


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COMMENT | "I certainly don't owe anybody anything!
posted by : dreadmeat
6/28/2012 5:22:55 PM
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agreed, but you have to expect it given what he does.


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posted by : schizo
6/28/2012 5:26:04 PM
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Probably because he's looking like a homeless junkie who hasn't had any sleep or a square meal since 1987


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COMMENT | What a wigger!!!!!
posted by : RiotAct666
6/28/2012 5:28:56 PM
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Great way to make all your fans hate you even more.....


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posted by : noone69
6/28/2012 5:43:55 PM
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Its one thing not liking your picture taken, its another thing whining about it in public once again reminding us that you are THE BIGGEST DOUCHE ALIVE.

lol @ "down to earth"


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COMMENT | New book
posted by : rustedshadow
6/28/2012 5:52:10 PM
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Maybe that guy from North Side Kings can try to get a picture of Tommy, for his next book "Never Take a Picture of a Rock Star"


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posted by : DMR
6/28/2012 5:52:16 PM
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Gotta love fans who try and claim success for things they didn't do. Nobody twisted your arm to buy anybody's records. And if these musicians didn't CREATE the music that hooked you or put in the hard WORK touring endlessly to support it....then you'd have had nothing to spend your cash on. It's simple "cause and effect". The musicians created the music (cause). You liked what they CREATED so you bought it (effect).

You want applause and recognition? Then get up off your lazy asses and step away from your computers, and go out and do it for yourself. Difference between Tommy Lee and you people: he and his bandmates busted their asses and chased their dreams. You spend your time on the internet critiquing something you can't do yourselves.


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COMMENT | 'RE: # I''ve never bought a Motley Crew CD'
posted by : SloDanzer80
6/29/2012 8:53:24 AM
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Nobody is making them tour, or put out music either. I don't feel I'm owed anything by them nor do I owe them anything. Tommy Lee shows no valuation for the people who have paid for their music and in effect made them what they are - because without "fans" they have no money or fame. For the times he is inconvenienced by "fans" he should show some class. There’s a ton of great music out there by fantastic bands that are touring their asses off and starving -so It's reciprocal.


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COMMENT | -l-
posted by : I Live In My Mom's Basement
6/28/2012 6:12:12 PM
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This douche needs to go into a wood chipper.


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posted by : Angrysun316
6/28/2012 6:33:59 PM
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The day might come when he'll throw himself at his fans for a pic when they start to not care anymore.


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posted by : MarlaHooch
6/28/2012 6:42:34 PM
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He's right about everything.


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posted by : dejavu
6/28/2012 7:17:04 PM
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that is the most coherant thing I have ever heard him say!

the bar is extremely low though..if he could say 'existentialism' in the proper context I would think he a genius.


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COMMENT | So he Banned Me booohooo
posted by : Inker
6/28/2012 7:23:07 PM
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I follow this guy on twitter, I barely reply or coment on his tweets mainly because I am sure he see's floods of tweets all the time. I decide I'll tweet him on this. I said that it is very understandable about priavte moments etc, but at venues ... Common. I said his rant sucks shit! So he tweets back that I am "Another Unconcious Human" like wtf is that?

So I tweet Phil Soussan, and ask what he thinks, being as he connects with his fans. He says in the right momments it is always good to take pics, give back etc for fans support. Says it is fans support etc that keeps him rocking.

I guess cuz I called him out on it, he decided to ban me from following him on twitter. No loss on my behalf not being a giant Motley Fan but what a douche.


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COMMENT | Met Mike Akerfeldt and Martin Mendez
posted by : TrashedandScattered
6/28/2012 7:23:19 PM
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outside their tour bus on the Mastodon/Opeth/Ghost tour a couple months back and both were completely gracious and I got my picture taken with both.

I think Tommy just doesn't like to see the fact that he's a 50+-year-old man and not a 20-year-old DJ.


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COMMENT | I asked Mike Patton for a picture once.. and he denied.
posted by : vpereira1982
6/28/2012 7:42:22 PM
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We were at the SFO airport and he came in super late for his flight. We were checking-in right next to each other, I said I was a fan and asked for a picture, he said 'sorry but I'm about to miss my flight' . I totally understood and it was all cool.


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posted by : DogHead
6/28/2012 7:56:35 PM
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I actually had a dream once where I beat the shit out of Tommy with a fuggin golf club of all things. Weird dream, but true story.


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posted by : Angrysun316
6/28/2012 8:03:01 PM
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Pictures remind him of how old he looks.


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posted by : musicman14
6/28/2012 8:03:23 PM
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So I have seen crue a bunch over the years everytime I would run into Tommy he wouldn't give me the time of day,so finally I see him and go Tommy can I just get a photo with you,he stopped took a photo and chatted for a few.It might be that he is now looking older than his age,and no one wants photos of that


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posted by : snapchris
6/28/2012 8:12:09 PM
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This might be the greatest collection of comments I've ever read!


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posted by : PHIL_11H58
6/28/2012 8:18:21 PM
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Shut up Tommy, hot headed piece of shit, your fans wants pics, give 'em pics you stupid bitch...."im here to entertain"...fuck you im here to entertain


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posted by : jokerstyle
6/28/2012 8:30:59 PM
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twitter makes idiots even more idiotic


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posted by : DMR
6/28/2012 8:31:41 PM
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I always get a kick out of kids ragging on middle aged people for being older. Time waits for no one. Not even you kids. Enjoy youth while you got it, but believe me it goes quick. Before you know it you'll be that 50 year old. But one thing is certain, more people care about that particular 50 year old than will care about his detractors when they reach that age.

Now go back to your Cannibal Corpse albums and be sure to help Mom with the groceries when she gets home.


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posted by : Pacific4North2West0
6/28/2012 8:37:19 PM
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I have a picture of me and Merle Haggard. Merle actually looks better than Tommy in that pic. Fuck this glam piece of shit.


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COMMENT | ew
posted by : I Live In My Mom's Basement
6/28/2012 8:43:39 PM
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ew, glam is gay


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COMMENT | Peace and Love
posted by : Yambag
6/28/2012 8:54:44 PM
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He's got a point it is disrespectful to interrupt him eating dinner or with his family


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COMMENT | Some of the comments here are disturbing in their infantile anger
posted by : nycker
6/28/2012 8:59:34 PM
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I couldn't even name all the members of Motley Crue and know little about Tommy as a person but it is no matter and he is correct and just in his decision.

Fans that don't see themselves as peers are out of touch with the ways of the world. A celebrity does not need to work around the clock with the edict that fans made them. No one owes anyone anything but some of you are less than nothing when you judge others with your limited view of their lives.




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posted by : RevengeOfToonces
6/28/2012 9:10:49 PM
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Next time I see this motherfucker, I'm asking for a picture.


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COMMENT | This is clearly some sort of reverse psychology.
posted by : johnnylarue
6/28/2012 9:40:14 PM
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He really wants pictures taken all the time.


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COMMENT | hmmm...
posted by : JOHNNY SNOT
6/28/2012 9:52:05 PM
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i wonder....just wonder...if, when tommy was an up-and-coming nobody, if he ever wanted his pic taken with a guy like ozzy or somebody else he looked up to...

i guarantee if p-diddy wanted his pic taken with tommy, he'd be more than happy to do it.

fuck you tommy lee.


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COMMENT | Curious...
posted by : Scottrak918
6/28/2012 10:15:07 PM
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...when the "artist" creates music, is it so they can just sit in a room and listen to it and keep it to themselves? No...they share it with people who they hope will become "fans"...in turn, these fans buy albums, cassettes, CD's, t-shirts, concert tickets, posters, patches, buttons, magazines featuring their "artist"...portions of the proceeds from all of said items go to the "artist"...these proceeds end up paying for everything the "artist" does, ie; million dollar houses, cars, boats (where you can film your dick), drug of choice, booze, etc....So, yeah, Tommy, you do owe your fans who just want a single moment with their favorite rock star...If anyone needs a moment of "consciousness", it's you.....


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posted by : Neural Imbalance
6/28/2012 10:45:40 PM
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This is one of those career ending comments.


"I don't want white people to buy my music" - Lauren Hill


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COMMENT | lol
posted by : EL MENGH
6/28/2012 11:25:09 PM
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he should charge ppl to take a pic...this would really make him chase fans around...hey hey hey come take a pic of me bro its only $50....bro!! dont be an asshole fan......lol


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COMMENT | fuck this douche
posted by : Fuckjames
6/28/2012 11:41:13 PM
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you should be thanking on your hands and knees the fans for there support for the past 30 years! we buy all your shit and your $100 plus concert tickets! look at dimebag the greatest most gracious kind musician in a long time. i met him and was as nice as can be!ask anyone that knew him and they will say the same.he didn't give a fuck if he was tired or hungover.anything to make a fan happy.same goes for jason newsted anything for a fan.maybe this asshole will learn that one day.see how much people care when this douche dies and what people have to say about him.as a music fan FUCK YOU TOMMY LEE!!


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COMMENT | He's right
posted by : Skanna
6/28/2012 11:58:02 PM
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Tommy is actually 100% right on this one.



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COMMENT | Tommy... Please Read
posted by : DirtyWaterDog
6/29/2012 12:16:13 AM
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BUT Tommy doesn't mind doing the Motley Crue $1400 meet & greet photo they have listed on their site which I would rather die before paying that.

You are one of my favorite drummer ever dude. I would never bug you with your family. I would hope while touring you would do the occasional photos and you should be signing your customers shit. Gives them a reason not to by anything else if you shit on em'. If you came in my business and I treated you like that you would not be back. What's that old saying? Don't bite the hand that feeds ya

Oh and John fucking Bonham is dead and if you had the chance you would have jocked his shit and got a photo with him and had him sign your favorite Zep album. Don't lie

2 things I think you do owe are releasing the Personality #9 album, the 2nd unreleased album with John Corabi on vocals, the one all of you own the demos to. Call Nikki on that one

2nd... A KILLER FUCKING HEAVY CRUE ALBUM.




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COMMENT | You're right Tommy!
posted by : Thrashman88
6/29/2012 12:30:12 AM
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You're right Tommy! I would't want to take a picture with you, ever in my life. You suck since 1985, when u put out that metal-for-pussies album, "theatre of pain". With all due respect, I think it's time u retire and live the life u want to live... away from your fans!


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COMMENT | What a load of shit.
posted by : Itwalksamongus
6/29/2012 1:03:42 AM
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I've been a fan and had my pic taken with my idols, and I've been on tour here in Japan and had kids ask me for a pic with them. It means a lot to a fan to have a pic with you, Tommy - you leaking balloon of douche. But, yeah - FUCK those fans and what they want.

Moron.


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COMMENT | Here's how it's done
posted by : Itwalksamongus
6/29/2012 1:13:48 AM
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Met Zakk Wylde at the Hard Rock in Osaka a few years ago. He was eating - someone mutual introduced us - my GF had a camera. Zakk is like let's take a picture! Puts down his fork, gets up, puts his arm around my shoulder and says here give me your hand - and I get a pic of us shaking hands. THAT is how a pro does it.

BTW, Tommy - you guys sucked in Osaka last fall. 90 minutes and no encores?

Fuck you.


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COMMENT | a point
posted by : motley nu
6/29/2012 2:34:17 AM
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I have to agree with Tommy here. I would bet that if someone asked him for an autograph, he would do it, if someone ASKED for a picture, he could at least prepare himself a little bit for it. Do you think tabloid magazines tried to take the worst possible pictures they could of Whitney Houston before she died?


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COMMENT | CANDIDATE FOR TOOL ACADEMY
posted by : joxerthemighty
6/29/2012 4:13:04 AM
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motley crue has been over for many years. be glad anyone even cares. I wouldnt go see them if I had free tickets. I would still have to drive there and pay for parking. maybe if he performed in my yard or house. hmmm. naw. rather watch paint dry. he is starting to sound like axle rose. maybe he should join his band and they can jump in the crowd and beat people up in the audience that take pics or video. new wwe tag team- fan haterz. we wish we werent famous but love all the benefits. SUCH A TOUGH LIFE. fans are such a hassle-they are like sheep that should cherish me. all the std's are affectin the brain maybe.


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posted by : Big Ol' Titties
6/29/2012 7:19:29 AM
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"Nobody got me here by ME"... I beg to differ cock smoke. Unless you bought all those records yourself, spare the 0.2 seconds it takes for that camera flash to go off.

Fair enough, you're sitting with your family eating dinner, maybe no pictures. If I pay to see your stupid face at a concert, and I bump in to you, start fucking smiling and prepare for a pic.

That will never happen as I would never waste my money to see your washed up band, but just sayin.


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COMMENT | "Someone's not gonna believe you if ya don't have the proof pic? Then fuck 'em!"
posted by : sherdian518
6/29/2012 8:49:48 AM
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That's how I've always rolled when I met musicians over the years. Brief chat, no pictures or autographs. Meeting them was enough. It's your memory, so why sully that?


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COMMENT | hmm...
posted by : king_kasbert
6/29/2012 8:52:18 AM
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maybe because he is so old and extremely ugly??


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COMMENT | I understand the excitement and all, but just take a second and think... Is this cool right now?
posted by : sherdian518
6/29/2012 9:01:49 AM
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That's true, and I agree with Tommy on this one. I would never bother someone when they were eating, let alone assume they would want me bugging them for an autograph or a picture. One of the two you'd probably lose over the course of time anyway, so it leaves you with your memory of meeting someone. Just saying 'Hi' and thanking them for some happening music is what has worked for me. Just an honest dose of gratitude to spread the better vibe around. That, and taking pictures in general is annoying to a degree. Why wreck it for yourself for evidence to show some subsequently-indifferent friends? We could bag on Tommy about any of this, but he does speak the truth. Warts and all, he's telling it like it is. Just be considerate. Common sense.


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COMMENT | it's funny (and sad)
posted by : ianuck1977
6/29/2012 9:02:23 AM
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Tommy have several pics with other rock stars and celebrities that he published on his websites and shit... just google him...

So "celebrities" can take pictures and "regular people" don't... unless you buy an expensive meet & greet ticket...

Came from someone who do anything to be in the media (fights, lame reality shows, trendy side projects,...), that really lame!!!


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COMMENT | bottom line
posted by : sharkbyte
6/29/2012 11:19:37 AM
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Given the choice he made to be a famous musician, this is what comes with it. Of course, fans should have some consideration and not bug him out in public, especially if he were eating somewhere or with his kids. That's a courtesy EVERYONE should be afforded.

Tommy Lee doesn't owe anybody a picture, but he does owe his success to the fans that have supported him.
If he agrees to do a meet and greet before or after a show, he better be kind and gracious and not have this kind of attitude because then it shows he really doesn't care about his fans at all. There is a time and place for everything and it may have been the work that he and the Crue put in to making albums and touring, but it would be nothing more than a hobby without us purchasing the music and tickets to see them in concert.

He's obviously not very tactful in explaining to his fans that he'd appreciate a little space, but I do agree that people shouldn't be able to just take your pic and post it wherever, that's an invasion of privacy.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : CarcPazu
6/29/2012 1:15:53 PM
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Then who took that picture of him that is right beside the word Herpes in the dictionary?


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COMMENT | I have a picture of Tommy and myself.
posted by : The Stone Crow
6/30/2012 2:34:01 AM
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He's one of the nicest guys I ever met.

Nikki Sixx was an arrogant fuck, though.


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COMMENT | agree
posted by : KerosSIN
7/12/2012 3:30:36 AM
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He'e right.


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posted by : paralon
7/12/2012 11:04:07 AM
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If I'd seen James Hetfield, walking next to me, maximum that I could do is to say Hi, if he is alone, if he is with his family, I wouldn't even say hello, and tried not to bother him in anyway, and that would be very cool for him to see thow I behave while having a Tallica shirt on.

I did meet him in Club meet-n-greet, and that was enough. Maybe I am not objective here though :-)

I agree mostly with Lee, I think that people should leave each other alone, if it is not mutual, but I can't help noticing that he is missing a simple thing here, people take pictures mostly for their memories!, then some other reasons they are, but just few.


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