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IRON MAIDEN Might Approach Songwriting Differently On Next Album - Apr. 26, 2012
IRON MAIDEN guitarist Adrian Smith has told VH1 Classic's "That Metal Show" that the band might approach songwriting differently for its next album and move away from composing long, progressive-rock-style tracks which have characterized some of MAIDEN's most recent efforts.

MAIDEN's 15th studio CD, 2010's "The Final Frontier", featured 10 tracks that had an average running time of seven minutes and 40 seconds, with the shortest song, "The Alchemist", clocking in at four minutes and 29 seconds, and the longest, "When The Wild Wind Blows", lasting ten minutes and 59 seconds.

Smith tells "That Metal Show": "On the last couple of albums Steve [Harris, bass], Bruce [Dickinson, vocals] and me have written together, which is a new thing. Steve used to bringing three, four, five completed songs. But now he's doing more arranging, production, overseeing. We sit down and write, and that's reflected in the slightly different stuff."

He adds, "We've been writing longer for some reason. Maybe next time we'll do some shorter stuff — but it's difficult to look into the future too far."

The guitarist also expressed his admiration for the likes of Jimi Hendrix, FREE and THIN LIZZY and the way they approached composing new music. "They did some great singles — put things into three minutes, which is a difficult thing to do, but it can be done."

Adrian is quick to point out, however, that IRON MAIDEN will continue to do things its own way, as has been the case throughout its 30-plus-year recording history. "It's just the band," he says. "There's no outside influences. There's never been a record company in the studio with us, so we're lucky — but we kind of worked for that."

IRON MAIDEN will return the road this summer with a series of arena, amphitheatre and festival shows in the USA and Canada, opening in Charlotte, North Carolina on June 21 and finishing in Houston, Texas on August 18, to be followed by further dates around the world in 2013. The "Maiden England World Tour" will closely mirror, in terms of production and content, the original 1988 concert video of the same name, shot on the "Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son Tour".

Says Smith : "Probably two-thirds of the set is going to be [revisiting the setlist from the 1988 tour]. It's good to rediscover [those old tracks]. I like to play them slightly differently, but people know them so well you can't deviate too much. If we remember the songs, it'll be alright."

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posted by : Aces_High99
4/26/2012 7:06:12 AM
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I seriously doubt it.

Maiden is Steve Harris' band. He is extremely set in his ways, and he likes his long epic songs.

There was word that Adrian wanted to change up the production on The Final Frontier, and Steve wasn't having any of it, which caused a bit of discord.

It's a shame, because I think Adrian is by far the most creative member of the band at this point. I would love it if he was allowed to produce just one Maiden album and be given full creative control...but it's not going to happen.

Steve and his "puppet producer" Kevin Shirley call the shots.


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posted by : pingu53
4/26/2012 7:07:10 AM
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finally, the last few albums have full of too many long ass boring songs, they should go back to writing short, fast songs like The Trooper, The Clairvoyant, Aces High etc


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posted by : tpie
4/26/2012 7:12:03 AM
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Adrian just said this 'off hand'. It was just a spontaneous speculation of what 'might' happen, that he thought of while talking. As soon as he said it he practically dismissed it, and just said 'who knows?'.


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posted by : metalimpressiondotcom
4/26/2012 7:18:27 AM
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This is probably why these guys don't do shows like this often. Media outlets will turn every little word into major news stories.

I personally love the past few albums and have no problem with the longer songs. I loved Rime of the Ancient Mariner and that was I believe their longest song ever.

I also love Seventh Son of a Seventh Son which is more progressive and what not.

This band doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. They can write 20 minute songs or 2 minute songs and no matter what they do it always seems to work just fine.

I'd like to hear a few Aces High, Number of the Beat type songs sure... I'd also personally like to see them use a different producer on the next album with better drum sounds... but I am not in the band and it's completely up to them what the fuck they do as they have earned the right to do whatever they damn well please

UP THE IRONS!


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posted by : Aces_High99
4/26/2012 7:26:09 AM
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I do enjoy many of Maiden's epic songs, but their attempts to be progressive rock in the vein of Genesis and Yes (two of Steve's biggest influences) aren't always successful.

Just because a song is 10 minutes long doesn't mean it's automatically some deep, intellectual, prog-rock masterpiece. Sometimes, it's just self-indulgent and boring.


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posted by : Never question Bruce Dickinson!
4/26/2012 7:26:11 AM
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I love the idea of Adrian producing, Aces_High. But, yeah- when pigs fly.

I think the biggest detriment to their songwriting approach now is (other than the fact that Steve has assumed more control than ever) is that they've forgotten how to edit. They still have the ability to write very good 10-minute epics, but they need to start picking and choosing better-- some songs lend themselves to staying shorter with more power. When your default becomes this long plodding arrangement just because that's the pattern you've fallen into, it starts to feel lazy and bloated. For me, Paschendale, say, works spectacularly at its present length. But some of those long ones from the last album--I haven't even listened to it enough times to remember them intimately--are almost a trial to get through.

I find it a little sad that my absolute favorite song from Matter of Life and Death is The Pilgrim. Sad because they obviously put so much time and effort into the long ones, and in the end they're still at their best (again, to me) with the one-two punch-- short, fast and sweet with a memorable chorus.


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COMMENT | Long tracks
posted by : marcsix
4/26/2012 7:29:25 AM
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are cool as long as they're flanked by a majority of shorter ones.
If almost every track is over 7 minutes, your attention dies away after the third track. Wicker Man, The Trooper, Number of the beast, Evil that men do: all shorter tracks with enormous impact


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posted by : Maideneer
4/26/2012 7:30:12 AM
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Umm, the best news of all of this is that there will be a new album. That's all I need to hear.


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posted by : juanneman
4/26/2012 12:32:31 PM
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They already said they would do AT LEAST one more album!!!


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COMMENT | .+.
posted by : intlecktual
4/26/2012 7:50:20 AM
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The Final Frontier is not the final frontier after all.

Great news.


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posted by : YngwiesDonutBaker
4/26/2012 7:50:39 AM
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does this mean the next one will actually be good?


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posted by : tpie
4/26/2012 7:54:17 AM
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Since their last 4 albums were, yeah, I'd guess the next one will be, too.


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posted by : YngwiesDonutBaker
4/26/2012 7:50:40 AM
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does this mean the next one will actually be good?


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posted by : tpie
4/26/2012 7:54:47 AM
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thumbs down, again.


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posted by : mole_of_the_beast
4/26/2012 7:56:13 AM
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One final albums with short tracks is all we ask for. I love A Matter of Life And Death, but The Final Frontier sure is the weakest Maiden album since No Prayer. Even though the Harris epics are masterpieces as always!


UP THE FUCKING IRONS YOU TWATS!


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COMMENT | Roy Z
posted by : Night_Prowler
4/26/2012 7:57:06 AM
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Bring on ROY to produce the new one. Bruce's solo albums Chemical Wedding & Accident Of Birth are two of the best albums ever made. I think Steve could take a few pointers from those releases for some positive input.

The newer era Maiden albums (since Bruce & Adrian returned) have all been great albums and proves MAIDEN are still the best metal band out there. Looking forward to the next one!


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COMMENT | ^^
posted by : Night_Prowler
4/26/2012 8:12:04 AM
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A matter of life and death is no way a weak album, that album is very solid with awesome songs, and hands down the best album of the year when it was out.

Final Frontier was also a great album, but did have some mediocre songs, but at the same time there are definitely some great classic Maiden tracks on that album as well that hold their own.

Any of the Maiden Brave New World & later albums have been great releases.


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posted by : EL PENDEJO
4/26/2012 8:19:38 AM
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The only time I actually watched that crappy show. It Maiden to make me watch it too.


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posted by : TreEdeathfan
4/26/2012 8:33:46 AM
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Fucking love Maiden, they damn do whatever they want it will still kick more ass than anybody of today.


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posted by : RevengeOfToonces
4/26/2012 8:37:58 AM
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This is good news. Brave New World was excellent, and while I liked the subsequent three albums to some degree, they all kind of run into each other and it doesn't take long before I get bored and want to listen to something else. It's very rare for me now to listen to any of the albums after BNW all the way through. I think I even prefer No Prayer For The Dying to the new stuff.


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posted by : GammaJosh
4/26/2012 8:40:18 AM
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This is such a bogus story, it was a totally offhand comment that he made during the interview, he was just casually throwing the idea out.


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posted by : syko kyd
4/26/2012 8:49:32 AM
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I like Maiden's epics, but i agree with may posters. The last couple albums have had too many long sounds on them that sounded boring. Hopefully the new album has a lot more shorter and faster songs.


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posted by : blindg
4/26/2012 9:34:37 AM
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Last album was perfect imo. 4 epics but they were all good enough.


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COMMENT | Setlist
posted by : monkeytime
4/26/2012 9:01:15 AM
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The problem when he says 2/3 of the set will revisit 'Maiden England', is that 1/3 will be the same damn songs they have been playing for years.

So basically, we'll get a few off 7th son, maybe 'still life', and the rest we've seen before plenty of times, lol.

Why do they keep playing 'Fear of the Dark'? Christ, drop it already.

The one song Maiden really have to play:

ALEXANDER THE GREAT



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COMMENT | 'RE: Setlist'
posted by : tpie
4/26/2012 9:54:31 AM
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Hopefully it means they'll do Prisoner, but I agree - 2/3rds still means a lot of room to play the same songs they always do.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Setlist'
posted by : downontheupside
4/26/2012 10:08:27 AM
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100% agree. I love the vast majority of Maiden's catalog, but Fear of the Dark has never really done it for me. Makes zero sense to include it at every live show at the expense of the other gems they could play instead. There's not one song from Maiden England that should be dropped in favor of 'Fear'.
They probably just keep it there to make Janick happy so he can dance jump around like an idiot.

And I would lose my shit if they played Alexander the Great. Talk about a majestic song...


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COMMENT | Adrian.....
posted by : RickSteve
4/26/2012 9:50:03 AM
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Should just write the next album in its entirety (Not going to happen I'm sure). That band fell to shit when Adrian left.

Aces_High99, I agree 100% about Adrian being the one with the most creativity. I miss the twin axe attack with Adrian and Dave. Janick blows.

-RickSteve


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posted by : Sadistikexekution
4/26/2012 10:06:20 AM
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Please shorter songs, and a bit more tempo.
May I also suggest to let Janick play behind a curtain, his stupid poses are unbearable!


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COMMENT | Looking forward to new album.
posted by : I'mGonnaKillEddie.
4/26/2012 10:07:06 AM
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New Priest / MAIDEN, will be a good 2013 or so. Great to see them looking to a new release as well as the fans. MAIDEN fans seem to be the best fans, if you ask me.


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posted by : Aces_High99
4/26/2012 10:15:38 AM
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Fear of the Dark may be a goofy song, but it's SO much fun live.

The way the audience sings along to all the harmonies is just amazing. It's always one of the best moments of every Maiden show I've been to.

I'm betting that Maiden will play the title track of Seventh Son, The Clairvoyant, Infinite Dreams and The Evil That Men Do.

MAYBE The Prisoner and Killers, but most likely not Still Life. I'm hoping anyway. I'd gladly give up Number of the Beast, Run to the Hills and The Trooper to hear those.


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posted by : Never question Bruce Dickinson!
4/26/2012 10:30:21 AM
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The other thing about the songwriting that Adrian touched on was the way a lot of the songs are written in three-person configurations, Steve-Adrian-Bruce, Bruce-Janick-Steve, etc. I'd be curious to see if going back to strictly solo compositions or two-person collaborations, would bring the songs any closer to what they once were. It almost feels like a too-many-cooks-spoil-the-soup thing now.

I guess I'm just dying for some new songs that are strictly Bruce and Adrian.


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COMMENT | Um, may I suggest
posted by : rando
4/26/2012 10:41:31 AM
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...RIFFS!


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COMMENT | can't get into the last two albums
posted by : JukeBoxHero
4/26/2012 10:52:01 AM
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though every time i make myself listen, i like them a little better. brave new world was great, but i honestly think that dance of death is their best of the last 4 albums.

anyone else love dance of death?


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COMMENT | honestly
posted by : laggerlugger
4/26/2012 10:52:54 AM
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I will never understand why anyone complains about how long song or cd is. those of us who stay pay for our music want it to be as long as it can! as for maiden whyu would I want them to stop writing great epic songs? just because other bands can't pull it off and you add riddled youth of today can't get into anything more than a 2 min. song is no reason to deny long time maiden fans what we enjoy.


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posted by : wooten
4/26/2012 10:54:37 AM
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Shorter, faster songs with plenty of riff and tempo changes. A couple of semi-longs ones, at most. Guitars fat and up front ( i.e. piece of mind).


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posted by : The Outer Limits
4/26/2012 11:16:10 AM
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It doesn't matter if it was an "off-handed" comment. You have to wonder why he said it in the first place. It was definitely an implicit response to the "epic song fatigue" that the fans have been suffering from for years.

There is NO comparrison between an amazing song like Rime of the Ancient Mariner and the plodding "epic" songs of the last 3 albums. Don't get confused!

Now maybe, just maybe, the band will consider creating the kind of music that made them GREAT in the first place. How difficult can that be?



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COMMENT | I hope they play Gangland
posted by : CJL13
4/26/2012 11:28:50 AM
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Underrated classic.


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posted by : Acacia70
4/26/2012 11:39:45 AM
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ASAP > Primal Rock Rebellion


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COMMENT | Bring on the new Maiden album!!!!!!!
posted by : RiotAct666
4/26/2012 12:21:51 PM
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Simply metal's best band.

Up those irons!!!!!!!!


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COMMENT | aces
posted by : And Then There Were None
4/26/2012 12:46:24 PM
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"Just because a song is 10 minutes long doesn't mean it's automatically some deep, intellectual, prog-rock masterpiece. Sometimes, it's just self-indulgent and boring."

yes, yes. thank you. i don't see Maiden's rambling tracks as progressive; they're overly long.

progressiveness means trying different things. Maiden's sense of melody is 95% very conventional and while i'm no drummer their rhythms don't seem "progressive" to me either. throw on Genesis from the 70s and then throw on Maiden: no comparison.

and i love Maiden, just calling bullshit on this progressive tag.

good to see a Maiden fanatic can still see clearly.


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COMMENT | Love Maiden but..
posted by : jugulator2
4/26/2012 12:54:28 PM
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..I'm 41 and have been listening to them for at least 25 yrs and to tell you the truth, I'm really gettin tired of the long songs with choruses repeated over and over..Yeah, we all know they started to do that with Somewhere in Time, but its still a great SOUNDING album as well as Seventh Son, which also falls victim to the repeated choruses..I really think Maiden died the first time Adrian left the band, cause I can barely stomach No Prayer for the Dying or Fear of the Dark anymore..And yeah, Brave New World was allright but not stellar, and everything after has just been outright boring..If I want to listen to Prog, I'll listen to Rush or Dream Theatre..Maiden is a METAL band..I don't mind a long song here or there, Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner is one of my favorite all time Maiden tracks..But when the whole album is peppered with them, like the guy above said, I get bored..I am anxiously awaiting the next Bruce solo album if there is one..Later folks, going to put in the new Accept-Stalingrad..Now THATS METAL!


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COMMENT | Hope So!!
posted by : dezmonator
4/26/2012 1:26:46 PM
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The Final Frontier fucking sucks!!!! Thats one of the worst albums I've ever heard, the production sounds like it was done in the 70's, the songs suck and Bruce's vox sound dry and shitty. The only good thing was the cove art.


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COMMENT | So...
posted by : RedZombie
4/26/2012 1:39:25 PM
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The General Consensus is that fans want an album with shorter songs. Well I for one sort of agree, I like some of the epic songs of the last 4 albums, but it does indeed feel way too long. Brave New World was great and another one like that would be great. Dance of Death was great as well, but didn't feel as good. A Matter of Life and Death & The Final Frontier both had way too many really long songs. But were still pretty great.


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COMMENT | well
posted by : aparicio
4/26/2012 1:47:01 PM
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that is why i didn´t buy their last 2 albums


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COMMENT | Yeah everyone has to be a 'Critic'
posted by : I'mGonnaKillEddie.
4/26/2012 2:48:05 PM
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and ... why not, but everyone knows that if MAIDEN was putting out a CD next week, you'd be through the roof stoked for it. And I do remember reading here, ~ a few months ago, that Bruce was saying that he thinks the fans like the Progressive nature of some of the longer songs on the new album.

The last two albums have had more of the longer songs, AMOLAD was all but one or two of the longer songs, and TFF had enough, for me, for sure (over half), but I'd expect some more of the last album's balance of longer and then the 5:30 few songs for the shorter ones, on the new Lp.

As long as it's an album they can live with, I'm good for it.

Thanx, mighty, mighty IRON MAIDEN, for doing what you do!


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COMMENT | 2 words
posted by : JJJB
4/26/2012 3:02:34 PM
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Andy Sneap

PERIOD


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posted by : acdizzy
4/26/2012 4:58:38 PM
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I bought my first Maiden album in '83, I am a lifelong fan. At this point, an album of short killer Maiden tunes would be just what the DOCTOR, DOCTOR ordered! Please guys..realize that the prog rock is revolution over. We now have more than enough long, slow Maiden suites in our collections to last the rest of our lives.

Time to get the spark back.

What was once just a classic song title now stands as a warning to the band:
BE QUICK OR BE DEAD!


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posted by : pentaglon
4/26/2012 5:21:07 PM
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every song that iron maiden have ever made, sounds the same


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COMMENT | Roy Z!
posted by : Precipice
4/26/2012 5:40:27 PM
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I agree that Roy Z should produce the next Maiden album. Except for the last one, Shirley puts the guitars in the back of the mix. Roy Z's production is clean and you can make out every instrument.


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COMMENT | better idea...
posted by : Doojiman
4/26/2012 6:57:27 PM
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...collaboration album with Lou Reed!


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COMMENT | First time I´m looking forward to a Maiden album in a long time
posted by : seance.blogg.se
4/27/2012 12:16:53 AM
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"and move away from composing long, progressive-rock-style tracks which have characterized some of MAIDEN's most recent efforts."

Finally fantastic news if they are true!

Could it be possible no more long bland songs with useless repetitive choruses.

Sadistikexekution telling the truth:
"May I also suggest to let Janick play behind a curtain, his stupid poses are unbearable!"


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posted by : metal for breakfast
4/27/2012 1:05:09 AM
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Bring back Paul Dianno and do a punk record.


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COMMENT | ...
posted by : sfmikica
4/27/2012 3:20:18 AM
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i really don't like Harris/Shirley production makes every album sounds the same as previous, Final Frontier is for me the worst Maiden album

the i hate the most is the chorus part of the songs they just repeat the name of the song couple of times and that is chorus, they can do so much better work


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COMMENT | More Adrian, Less Gers, Steve focuses on bass playing
posted by : chemicalmanusa
4/27/2012 8:32:53 AM
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That's my ultimate formula for a good Maiden album. Adrian's side project, Primal Rock Rebellion. proves that Adrian still has some fresh ideas in his head, unlike Harris (soft intro/outro) or Gers (same Irish-style melody or droning acoustic chords, not to mention his idiotic stage antics). He also produced the album for PRR, Awoken Broken, and the riffs were aplenty, the guitars were up front, the drums were crisp, and it actually sounded good. Adrian wrote some short, brutal songs for Awoken Broken, so I know he can do it (come up with tighter material), but again . . . it's Steve's band and we'll still end up with some good songs, but also some bloated "epics" or filler from Gers.

In the end, as others have said, it was an offhand comment by Adrian (we might write shorter songs) but the response has been a general agreement- more shorter songs, please. It's kind of funny, because in 1989, Steve wanted to get away from the proggy, synth-infused stuff they did on SiT and SSOASS, which resulted in: 1. NPFTD (yawn), and 2. Adrian's departure. Now, it seems like Adrian is in favor of the shorter, less complex songs and Steve keeps churning out the epics. Eh, either way it will be an Iron Maiden album with Adrian Smith on it, so I'll buy it.


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