It was used as an interrogation method - but the headline makes it sound like the music provided the soundtrack to waterboarding or something.

BS

I would use Creeping Death :

DIE
DIE
DIE
BY MY HAND

I agree.....

Enter Sandman is weak. Shows just how lame extreme Muslims are.

Of course, another interrogation technique would have been having them talk to Lars for hours....

classic!

They should use Behemoth or Deicide next time. They might give up Osama Bin Ladens position if theyre forced to listen to some good old fashioned satanic death metal.

He can't necessarily endorse human torture either.

They should beat the prisoners up with St. Anger.

As for the AFJA to Don't tread on me.....that was a big 4 years from 1988 to 1991 with the first Gulf War. Remember, the first Gulf War was extremely popular.

If you want to scare people......Use Once and Destroy. In my opinion of course

Yeah, Metallica used to be political and they used to METAL as well!!!!!!

Both Master Of Puppets and Justice For All contain political themes - that's part of why they are great to me. I don't understand where Hetfield is coming from now denying that.

If they use Load, Reload, and St. Anger, that would be torture.

Behemoth may be better now that I think of it. I would love to see someone cry in fear like that.

Those prisoners needed to BOW DOWN

either that or Hell Awaits, that'll keep em happy.

I'm so sick of terrible bands like Rage Against the Machine talking out of their ass and great bands like Pearl Jam going to hell all beause they decided that politics was more important than good music.

If they think "Enter Sandman" is bad, they would have commit suicide if they heard "St. Anger"

James Hetfield kicks ass. Most people just don't have the fucking STONES to JUST BE HONEST.

That has never been James's problem. "Honesty is my only excuse"???? You're FUCKING RIGHT ON THE MONEY James.

War sucks. Hate sucks. POLITICS SUCK. James does NOT suck.

SLAYER would be great interrogation music, too... heh heh

Fuck Yeah Jaymz!!!

making them listen to music is torture? what about cutting the heads of people they capture? or slitting thier throats?where are those panzis ratm when that shit happens?any way they get information to stop these animals is all right by me. as for the geneva convention you tree huggers keep whining about that covers prisners of war not terrorists. what country are we at war with? these scum come from all over and wear no uniforms so they are not covered.one can only hope that someone in your family is not taken by these animals and held hostage as your opinon of them would surly change.you expect nonsense coming from left wing tree huggers but calling playing metallica music to yhem torrure?beyond stupid!

the real reason why the guy began crying:

'NO! NO! Not THAT song again! PLEEEESE...I've heard it too many times! OVERKILL!'

Obviously.

If they really wanted to fuck with the guy, they should have played clown metal - you know - that black/death crap that so many kids think is great...?

yes.

I have a theory that both political parties in America are controlled by the same people, well it's not my theory loads of people have said it.

James is a very interesting and genuine person, i like him.

If Enter Sandman brought the guy to tears....I can only imagine what Nothing Else Matter, Low Mans Lyric, Mama Said or Where the Wild things are would have done....

Wait...I'm sorry, that brought Metallica fans to tears

Extremist: AMERICA! PHTT! I SPIT ON YOU AND YOUR VALUES...
Interogator: "oh YEAH?!?! GET ME THE LOAD CD....

Now THAT'S torture

...They should have put on SunnO)))'s Black One.

How some of you will feel about American interrogation tactics when we start seeing suicide bombing here in the States. It is not a matter of if it will happen but when it will happen, I would imagine then that liberal attitude would change.

When journalists asked him why he began to cry after hearing Metallica's "Enter Sandman" during an interrogation, Mohammed al-Qahtani replied: "To me, that song symbolizes the moment that Metallica betrayed the underground thrash metal movement and sold out to mainstream radio, MTV and the almighty dollar. It is the sound of Satan or, in other words, the sound of commercialism. Now everytime I hear this song, I immediately burst into tears, because the single and video release of "Enter Sandman" marked the end of the period when Metallica were still a real metal band and made music that mattered."

*****

COMMENT | Mohammed al-Qahtani's reply
posted by : JudasRising
9/7/2008 12:43:37 PM

When journalists asked him why he began to cry after hearing Metallica's "Enter Sandman" during an interrogation, Mohammed al-Qahtani replied: "To me, that song symbolizes the moment that Metallica betrayed the underground thrash metal movement and sold out to mainstream radio, MTV and the almighty dollar. It is the sound of Satan or, in other words, the sound of commercialism. Now everytime I hear this song, I immediately burst into tears, because the single and video release of "Enter Sandman" marked the end of the period when Metallica were still a real metal band and made music that mattered."

*****

Post of the month! :D

HA HA HA HA HA

I would have blasted GOATWHORE in thier face

Well said, James.
Metallica > all

I hope somebody tortures you very soon.
The new album is fucking shite: Dead after 1988 when you were still a rebel and not a rich fascist conformist.
I despise you and your pathetic fanboys.

"Of course, another interrogation technique would have been having them talk to Lars for hours...."


hahahaha... that's funny stuff.

Whatever happened to those 4 guys in anarchy t-shirts?
What happened to James, the front figure that used to talk about how fucked up the establishment were, and how much he hated authorities.
I guess those "rebels" grew up and became a part of the establishment, and now reckons themselves as authorities.
As a long time fan (since '84), it makes me sad to see how age, fame and money changes people to become what they ones fought against.

Ignorance is bliss i guess. The only reason it hasnt happened yet is because various groups are focusing on Iraq and Afghan. I hope it doesnt happen but many in military, intelligence, law enforcement community would tell you otherwise. I hope your correct but dont be surprised when it happens.

blabbermouth youve done it again!

jealous that Metallica will never sign to Roadrunner?

I would have done Slayer's Raining Blood or if I was gonna do Metallica I would have chosen Battery, Blackened or Damage Inc.

Great interview, despite the purposely divisive title...

Blabbermouth = Liberal Media

that was awesome!

One and Disposable Heroes are about the soldier's experience of war, they never did explicitly make an anti-war statement or comment on any particular conflict.

However 'just' or not any particular war is, soldiers on the ground will experience that kind of thing because that's the nature of war.

That said, I haven't made my mind up on this story yet. Whilst I deplore torture, I read a book written by someone who was a private military contractor in Iraq. And he said all the Iraqis they knew would much rather be 'tortured' by the US than their own countrymen of varying factions, who actually knew what real 'torture' is. By the way, the author was English too.

self-thinker, not hypocritical neo-bible belt espousing, not self righteous, educated...well guilty as charged... I love that Bush could overtly lie as a premise for war (i.e. weapons of mass destruction??? ah, sorry 'bout that....). C'mon y'all, complete ineptitude and contemptable. Scary behaviour that reinforces the World's perception of the U.S.

I know this will spur "Rush Limbaugh" like retaliation, but Truth is something that the right-wing has a hard time digesting.

Guantanamo is a cancer on the face of America

the ultimate in vanity
exploiting man's supremacy
i can't believe the things you say
I can't believe the price we pay

"making them listen to music is torture?"

They used it for SLEEP DEPRIVATION. The music itself was not the torture part, geez, c'mon people. It was just something LOUD that would prevent sleep.

"Scary behaviour that reinforces the World's perception of the U.S."

As an American I can honestly say I DON"T GIVE A FUCK what the rest of the world thinks of us.....

...the decision by US bands to distance themselves from politics or sit on the fence is purely down to business. There seems to be a section of society that assumes if you speak out about you governments actions then you are traitor to your country, they disown the band and this leads to a downfall in music/ticket sales.

Mouth shut = More money.

...each to their own

a simple answer to everyone wondering what "happened" to James and Metallica and their anti-establishment attitude:

They grew up.

Good bye.

Id use some Bloodbath on the Guantanamo torturers.

"maggots feast, eternal whisper/eating through your soul
in your head their bodies glisten/the stench of death is foul..."

"...wallow in gore and thoughts of the dead
i condemn myself as i bathe in blood"

Nice one, Lewis!
\m/METALLICA\m/

I think the terrorist cried because this song is very GAY.

Twisty, how could it be sleep deprivation? I mean seriously dude, Metallicker (pun intended) have been putting me to sleep since this shit came out. I listen to some softer shit but fuck me the bands I listen to dont wank about their 'metalness' as much as these fucks do. The real terrorists here are James. Kirk and (especially) Lars. Crimes against humanity is the only way to describe everything since and justice.

the posters here are and the rest of the u.s. population. The media controls everything. All the stories coming out of iraq and all that are censored and only made to either glorify the usa or made to look like the insergents are these really terrible ppl. Some say that sept 11th was even master minded by the usa government.There is alot of truth out there...just because cnn is reporting doesn't mean it's true.."what the american public don't know, is what makes them the american public".......dan akroyd"..Tommy Boy.....we just need to get off this apple pie, mom and pop bs thinking....and now my Blabbermouth acct gets deleted...lol.....the way posters fight on here is exactly the way they want u too act...it's samll by any world problem.."my band is better"...but..it's all about control......sad................rock on.

Why don't you suck a big fat dick, and choke on a huge man load? Piece of shit.

Hetfield, don't think. You are good that. Oh, and grow some balls.
Weakaspiss!

Hetfield, don't think. You are good at that. Oh, and grow some balls.
Weakaspiss!

I heard the prisoners were pissed because they were told that metallica was thrash....and judging from what they were hearing, they didn't agree and cried saying..."why did they sellout"

Agreed... they should use Black or Death Metal... I mean, Metallica's not scary enough.

At least in Black Metal they'll come right out and say "fuck your god"... geez...

they already did you asswipe!

that's why deicide's "fuck your god" was #1 in the "torture" playlist.

look it up!

It only changes people who were POSING as rebels to begin with.
It doesn't change the sincere, true ones.
Lemmy never changed, and he's 20 years older than the 'tallica members.

Long live Bad Religion and Suicidal Tendencies.

Some people here said that metallica were posing as rebels in the begining and now show their true colors...??

Can you name a song by metallica that is very political?

Metallica has never endorsed any political parties or taken sides on any 'hot' political issues that divides a nation of people. (Kirk has supported the Democrats outside metallica)

But in terms of songs...: Disposable heroes is not about politics. It main theme is 'control'..War is used as a reference to talk about control. (in terms of ranks)

One: is based on a book. Metallica wanted to do a song where the character is in a state where he is like a vegetable (a coma state but aware of what is going around him). No politics buddy.

Justice for all..the whole album talks about general themes..lies, censorships, fear. e.t.c...But not politics..

Don't tread on me..is closely a patriotic song that does not go into any political landscape.

So metallica were never rebels in the political arena. They were never anarchist. In fact if you have heard interviews with Lars during the KEA/RTL era, Lars stated that he though anarchy and statanism are all bullshit.. Part of the sex, drugs and rock n roll cliche that rock/metal bands abide to.

Or better put : They were POSING as such.
They stated many times in ancient interviews how much they hated authority, commercial music of ANY kind, mtv and the status quo. Their words not mine.
And they wrote plently of lyrics about rebelling against the system:
"Fight Fire With Fire": Against nuclear war

"Ride the Lightning": Against death penalty ("Who made you God to say "I'll take your life from you"?)

"Escape": Against sheeple mindlessly following rules and trends

"Master of Puppets": Against drug adddiction and how the system uses to control people

"Back to the Front": (Against war as it's about soldiers who are brainwashed into going to war, it's pretty harsh too: "Back to the front, you COWARD, you SERVANT, you BLINDMAN" hardly in tune with the "let's support the troops" attitude of today, wouldn't you say?)

Leper Messiah: Against tv evangelists

Damage Inc: Pretty self-explanatory ("Following our instinct not a trend" and look at them now, lol)

"Blackened": Against pollution and the destruction of the eco-system

I could go on forever really, they turned into what they claimed they would always fight.
Fuck them, they're only relevant to sheeple.

The US *blared* music at General Noriega's compound during the invasion of Panama. IIRC, they used metal, and also pop stuff like Milli Vanilli.

I think something very atonal and rhythmically "outside" would be more effective. Something like Meshuggah would probably be more effective than a more mainstream, common time style like Metallica. Maybe I should submit my CV to the CIA and implement this.

play death magnetic and they will be begging to be killed!




metallica=parody of themselves

Actually, it wasn't... it was on the list of songs most often listened to by US troops...

http://www.motherjones.com/news/featurex/2008/03/torture-playlist.html

actually dipshit, you're wrong.

check this headline from when the story first broke


DEICIDE Scores A #1 Hit With U.S. Troops - Feb. 27, 2008

from the blabbermouth archives.

like i said before ....look it up!

First off, you cum guzzler... I Googled that...

I first saw it on Yahoo back in Feb... not here.

proud if I was James too... fuck those terrorist bastards!!!

Remember 9-11... not "what band is better"

soo, you admit you were wrong then?

No... no I don't. For these reasons:

1. Wasn't on blabbermouth back in Feb (used the gauntlet)
2. That was the first result that came up on Google. Beyond my control.

excuses are weak man....

just admit it.....

it's OK to admit it, because they changed the list.

why?

because it's too politically incorrect for even the U.S. military to be playing "fuck your god" at the prisoners.

Admit what?

That that site was wrong?

Fine.

That site was wrong.

angel of death



anyway, i'm glad james said what he said

Agreed man...

period.

They could have played the entire St-Anger thing...

HA! you were wrong!! dipshit asswipe! HAHA!




just kidding man! just havin' a laugh!

HETFIELD On Use of METALLICA's Some Kind of Monster To Torture Bay Area Metalheads: "Part Of Me Is Crowded"

Some Kind of Monster was used during orientation week for Mohammed al-Qahtani- known as the 20th cashier at 711- and that viewing the documentary brought al-Qahtani to tears "because he thought he was watching the Sound of Music." James added, "It's wrong; it's film that's pitiful. It represents something that they don't like - maybe artistic freedom, repression... I don't know... freedom of slurred speech. And then part of me is kind of bummed about it that people worry about us being attached to some commercial statement because of that. We've got nothing to do with metal anymore and we're trying to be asinine as possible, 'cause we think beer and metal, at least for us, don't mix. It separates buttocks, [and] we wanna bring more ass together. So, so be it. I can't say 'I'm metal.' I can't say "Metal is me.' It's just a thing - it's not good music or bad ass."

Torture, whoever does it, for whatever reason is just WRONG!!!

Is pretty clear that Metallica has nothing to do with the "song selection" in Guantanamo... but don't try to be "Politicaly Correct".

Say it: don't use my fucking music for such a shameful thing.

Fuck no!

Hetfield, stop talking with your knickers in your mouth.

i feel tortured everytime i have to sit through one of their shitty songs.

You know, it's hilarious how there are people out there who think Metallica are like... the devil.

They did a good job with making them listen to Deicide's "Fuck Your God", but seriously... Throw some fucking Suicide Silence or Cradle Of Filth on in these prisons. I know a lot of you people hate cradle of filth, but think about how creepy that shit would be to those devoted religious terrorist fucks.

CAN YOUR GOD...
SAVE YOU NOW?..
CAN YOUR GOD SAVE YOU NOW!?

Part of him is proud. The other part wants royalties.

He's proud that his music is being used for torture! Hetfield is a sick fuck, truly a real american. Fuck those idiots!

no fuck you and all tree huggers concerened with terrorists rights! wow what a shame they were offended by some music which as with everything else they find offensive. to fucking bad!you know what I find offensive is them blowing people up for thier cause and beheading or slitting thier prisoners throats. use whatever means they can to find out what these animals know and if that means using music they don't like then more power o them.

I don't give a fuck about terrorists but because they are primitive you don't have to act/be primitive as well. Otherwise there is no difference between you and them.

US war on terror = 100% farce.

Just like the gulf of tonkin was.

"use of METALLICA's music to torture Guantanamo Bay, Cuba prisoners"

torture?


Gimme a break.

Welcome back spooky1 you mentally disturbed abomination.

I see you're back again, spewing your ugly shit around? Fucking pathetic loser, you're soo damn easy to spot it's ridiculous. Fucking redneck birdbrain :-) It's true what they say, real idiots like yourself never learn from their mistakes.

But don't worry, I'll get you banned again in 3-2-1:

Reprieve, the legal action charity that represents over 30 Guantanamo prisoners, has launched an initiative to encourage artists to speak out against the use of music as part of the torture techniques implemented by the current US administration.
In July, David Gray told the BBC, "What we're talking about here is people in a darkened room, physically inhibited by handcuffs, bags over their heads and music blaring at them. That is torture.” Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine, who have recently appeared on stage in Guantanamo orange jumpsuits, expressed his disgust back in 2006, and other artists are making a stand to protest – Massive Attack, for example, are using backdrops depicting "extraordinary rendition" flights on their current tour.
Reprieve's initiative, which includes a list of artists whose music has been used for torture, is here: http://www.reprieve.org.uk/Press_stop_torture_music.htm

I’m liking the album more and more, but unfortunately I can’t stand listening to it because of the mix and mastering. Let’s hope the original cd sounds better so it can actually be enjoyed without the bleeding ears and migraines that come with it. Listen to any snare drum roll that Lars does and the thunderous distortion that takes over your speakers. The extreme “loudness” of the mix was obviously done on purpose but why??

Greg Fidelman is the one who mixed it and has also done bands like: Slipknot (vol 3), System of a Down (self titled), Slayer (soundtrack to apocalypse), Marilyn Manson (holy wood), Life of Agony (broken valley producer), U2…etc..(the list goes on). He’s a genius engineer. I get the sneaking suspicion this had something to do with Lars and his “snare fetish”.

No wonder metal heads have a reputation for being huge dumbasses. Get a fucking education, all of you.

(Excerpt taken from http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/19/usa.guantanamo)

"If the Iraqis aren't used to freedom, then I'm glad to be part of their exposure," James Hetfield, co-founder of Metallica, has said. As for his music being torture, he laughed: "We've been punishing our parents, our wives, our loved ones with this music for ever. Why should the Iraqis be any different?" Such posturing may go with the territory for an artist of the Metallica genre, so there is no need to speculate about whether Hetfield is being naive or wilfully ignorant. But no sane person voluntarily plays a single tune at earsplitting volume, over and over, 24 hours a day, and expects to stay sane.

Despite this, to date, the Pentagon's semanticists have achieved their purpose, and many people think that torture by music is little more than a rather irritating enforced encounter with someone else's iPod. Binyam Mohamed, the British resident who is still held in Guantánamo Bay, knows a bit about such torture. The CIA rendered him to Morocco, where his torturers repeatedly took a razor blade to his penis throughout an 18-month ordeal.

When I later sat across from him in the cell, he described how psyops methods were worse than this. He could anticipate physical pain, he said, and know that it would eventually end. But the experience of slipping into madness as a result of torture by music was something quite different.

"Imagine you are given a choice," he said. "Lose your sight or lose your mind." While having your eyes gouged out would be horrendous, there is little doubt which you would choose. Mohamed remains in Guantánamo. The US military will decide, probably within two
weeks, whether to go forward with a military commission, based on "evidence" that was tortured out of him.

To those who have the misfortune to study torture, all this is old hat. Members of the IRA interned in Northern Ireland in the 1970s recall the use of loud noise, piped into their cells, as the worst aspect of their ordeal. One Guantánamo interrogator blithely estimated that it would take about four days to break someone, if the interrogation sessions were interspersed with strobe lights and loud music. 'Break' is another euphemism that is bandied about among torturers, as if "breaking" a person was some kind of psychological truth serum. Of course, the 'results' you get from a 'broken' prisoner have little to do with truth."

And if you don't believe it, you're fucking idiots as well as morally bankrupt. Not only is the music torture, it's more devastating then the pain, because we have natural defenses against pain. There's no defense against what James Hatfield's life's work is doing to people in the darkest holes our government provides. And he's fucking PROUD OF IT, which makes him either an asshole or a huge fucking moron.

You're all like George Bush, you're LACKING THE PROPER INTELLIGENCE. Or at least the proper imagination.